The problem with putting Z as a third line center (which I'm conceptually in favor of) is that the ducks lack complimentary skill wings. Putting Z on a line with Jones, Leeson, or Silf (in his current version) is just a waste of Z. Even when Killorn is back, the ducks are currently short a wing that fits with Z. But in the long term, they should be able to add a piece.
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The problem with putting Z as a third line center (which I'm conceptually in favor of) is that the ducks lack complimentary skill wings. Putting Z on a line with Jones, Leeson, or Silf (in his current version) is just a waste of Z. Even when Killorn is back, the ducks are currently short a wing that fits with Z. But in the long term, they should be able to add a piece.
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I’m not personally the biggest Perreault fan, but I’d be willing to give a Killorn-Zegras-Perreault 3rd line a chance.
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I’m pretty sure our new Head coach os showing us that he’s doing whatever is best for any given night to help the team win. He’s fast to make changes.
I've said it before, I think Perrault needs to be a 3rd wheel. With Killorn and Z on the 3rd line, he'll be the 3rd wheel that can get to soft areas and just show off his offensive skills. The current version of Zegras is much better defensively than last year and Killorn should be a good defensive forward too, so Perrault doesn't have to worry as much about that side and can play to his strengths on the offensive end (hopefully he's still got the shot he did). Hopefully he's an NHL 3rd wheel and not just an AHL level player.
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There are a good amount of options but what I dont see is Zegras being a 3rd line anything or going back to center. They have a long term goal and they arent going to sacfrafice the long term for a short term "fix". Its also interesting people want to say there is no chemistry with Mac and T and yet that was the game winning duo on Wed. Chemistry can take time to build but we have already seen flashes of it working.
I think its a misconception to think we are a deep team. Every roster proposal with a full roster has Leason, Jones or Silf playing wing with Zegras. Ill pass on that.
Fortunately none of us have a say
I dont think we will see Zegras playing center unless is a requirement due to Carlsson being out or other injuries.
And the only reason Id be ok with Henrique in the top 6 (other than he can win FOs) is the ability to boost his trade value. Other than that, hes a step behind the kids.
I think its a misconception to think we are a deep team. Every roster proposal with a full roster has Leason, Jones or Silf playing wing with Zegras. Ill pass on that.
Fortunately none of us have a say
I dont think we will see Zegras playing center unless is a requirement due to Carlsson being out or other injuries.And the only reason Id be ok with Henrique in the top 6 (other than he can win FOs) is the ability to boost his trade value. Other than that, hes a step behind the kids.
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Zegras is an interesting situation. So far he hasn’t found a niche on wing, but that might develop. The team has to figure out what the long term plan is. I don’t think anything is cast in stone as far as long term.
I can’t buy into players can just develop chemistry. If that we’re the case we would not have gone through dozens of LW’s trying to find one that could play with Getzlaf and Perry.
John
I can’t buy into players can just develop chemistry. If that we’re the case we would not have gone through dozens of LW’s trying to find one that could play with Getzlaf and Perry.
John
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I don't think we can make any assumptions at this stage. I think most of us were expected Vatrano and Steome to end up on the 3rd line eventually. Not be our top line. If you build in pairs you have Carlsson with T and Z hopefully with killorn. That leaves a plethora of guys to fill out the remaining top 9 spot. Rico back with Terry makes sense. Maybe eventually Z does end up on the wing but if we have the personnel to ice 3 effective lines I see no reason to think we wouldn't.There are a good amount of options but what I dont see is Zegras being a 3rd line anything or going back to center. They have a long term goal and they arent going to sacfrafice the long term for a short term "fix". Its also interesting people want to say there is no chemistry with Mac and T and yet that was the game winning duo on Wed. Chemistry can take time to build but we have already seen flashes of it working.
I think its a misconception to think we are a deep team. Every roster proposal with a full roster has Leason, Jones or Silf playing wing with Zegras. Ill pass on that.
Fortunately none of us have a say
And the only reason Id be ok with Henrique in the top 6 (other than he can win FOs) is the ability to boost his trade value. Other than that, hes a step behind the kids.
Deuce22
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It doesn't matter if we don't have great wingers for Z, he's a center. He isn't a wing. Ducks should be developing him at his natural (and best) position. The wingers will eventually be here.
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I'm indifferent if Z stays at wing or returns to center. He's shown he can deliver at either position, granted he delivered at wing during the WJC-20 when he provoked all of Canada. Turcotte was his center.
Last year, we tried to consolidate our centers with 1C Z, 2C Mac-2RW Strome, 3C Lundy at a St. Louis game and we got dominated in the first two periods except for our 2nd line. We had to put Strome back as a center again to balance us out.
Landing Carlsson has shifted Z to wing. Mac looks great in his second season. Can Z really man a 3rd line? And do we limit Z's ice time by being on the 3rd line? That's my worry is we'll be taking ice time away from Z if he's on the 3rd pairing.
Z is kinda like Rico. While Rico can play center, he's just as good at producing at wing. Rico won't be here for long and we'll need a Rico replacement, which is probably Zegras. Plus, Verbeek could be laying down a foundation for next season of Z-Carlsson-Terry.
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I don't like Z on the same line as Terry. They both want the puck on their stick. Z has been more effective at center IMO and feels more comfortable there. I want the Ducks to eventually run 3 scoring lines.
Hockey Duckie
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It looks as though Terry has turned the corner and started to relinquish the puck more in the past two games. Terry needs to continue this practice to be more compatible to all players. Z and Mac are that compatible, but Z isn't that strong at center though, which is why Carlsson displaced him at 1C.
I had pegged Carlsson as 1C in San Diego, but I gotta give the kid props for displacing Z at 1C this year.
What third liner in nhl commands the salary zegras would be shooting for?
I like idea of 3 lines just wondering if there isnt parity of wing talent that zegras will take it as a slight so to speak since it might cost him millions
Deuce22
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Good point. But I don't see Verbeek/Cronin making decisions based on not offending players.
Z has looked good and has shown effort. Don’t even think he was bad in that Columbus game he got benched. But he has to start producing, that is his role. Terry broke out and in one game went from a .50 PPG player, to a .90 PPG.
PP is starting to click now, and looking better, so there are no more excuses for Z. I mean even Leo has 3 goals already and only played 6 games.
He needs a few multi-point games in the next 5 games to get back on track. Terry’s 4 point night put him right back where he needs to be. If I’m Zegras, I’d shoot the puck at every opportunity and hope for a lucky bounce.
PP is starting to click now, and looking better, so there are no more excuses for Z. I mean even Leo has 3 goals already and only played 6 games.
He needs a few multi-point games in the next 5 games to get back on track. Terry’s 4 point night put him right back where he needs to be. If I’m Zegras, I’d shoot the puck at every opportunity and hope for a lucky bounce.
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I'd like to see them try Z on RW
Killorn - Carlsson - Terry
Vatrano - McTavish - Strome
Jones - Henrique - Zegras
Killorn - Carlsson - Terry
Vatrano - McTavish - Strome
Jones - Henrique - Zegras
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I think if we’re going 3 lines
Henrique Carlsson terry
Vatrano mctavish strome
Killorn zegrass leason
Jones carrick Johnston
I know silf isn’t in the line up, but it’s my imagination and in my imagination silf isn’t here anymore
It seems like new ducks arnt afraid to experiment and try new things…. So I could def see Anaheim try 3 scoring lines. Could create potential matchup issues
Henrique Carlsson terry
Vatrano mctavish strome
Killorn zegrass leason
Jones carrick Johnston
I know silf isn’t in the line up, but it’s my imagination and in my imagination silf isn’t here anymore
It seems like new ducks arnt afraid to experiment and try new things…. So I could def see Anaheim try 3 scoring lines. Could create potential matchup issues
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I agree with this lineup. Finding Henrique some goals and scoring touch before trade deadline is actually a big deal. And he’s shown he can score on our team. I think killorn would thrive with zegras
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I think leason deserves a shot with some skilled players, he’s played great so far this season and should be rewarded for it
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I mean, if he can plant himself in front of the net and keep retrieving pucks. While staying out of the box, I agree he should get a look. But with so much defensive depth, we will trade/sign for a true top 9 winger by the end of next summer. I hope lundy could be that himself, im
Just not sure if he’s in our long term plans.
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I know he hasn’t been producing, but calling him Zegrass still seems a bit harsh
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