Speculation: 2023-24 Roster Thread

[TheGoodShepard1]

Bo does PK though.

Bo also wins draws, which no other forward not named Adam Henrique does with regularity.

EDIT: I guess not, 45% in a small sample, though he looked like he improved on the dot in preseason. Hopefully he worked on it, this team desperately needs a secondary option, especially if they move Rico at the deadline.

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

It's honestly amazing that Leason has made the roster. Just a terrible NHL player.

I mean he had 4 points in 4 preseason games... I think he's earned a look to start the season.

 

[MMC]

MMC apparently thinks he is a lock...

Well he's on the opening day roster so looks like I was right

 

[Rybread86]

Bo likely has 1 season to show if hes worth keeping around. He earned a shot to start the year. And remember even if the "goal" is to make the playoffs, its a looooong shot. We are in a position to try and test guys, let them show you who they are or who they can be. Also, say he has a stretch of even 5-10 games where hes solid, he can be a better trade asset.

And even if the only reason he stayed up was positional, hes a guy who has to pass through waivers. Maybe its better to see him for a bit instead of risking a waiver claim. Nester was waiver exempt, so not risk.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Bo likely has 1 season to show if hes worth keeping around. He earned a shot to start the year. And remember even if the "goal" is to make the playoffs, its a looooong shot. We are in a position to try and test guys, let them show you who they are or who they can be. Also, say he has a stretch of even 5-10 games where hes solid, he can be a better trade asset.

And even if the only reason he stayed up was positional, hes a guy who has to pass through waivers. Maybe its better to see him for a bit instead of risking a waiver claim. Nester was waiver exempt, so not risk.

We have to develop players to be in our bottom-6. It seems as though this will be Silf's last year. We have no idea bout Rico, but if Rico goes, then someone like Vatrano or Strome gets promoted to the top-6. Carrick is on his last year of his contract and he's already 31 years old. And with Lundy being injured, who knows if Verbeek will keep Lundy around (see Milano and Steel).

BO is a 23-year old shutdown center type with some offense, who has had to work through adversity of making it back here to the NHL for the past couple of years. Last year, he was one of the Gulls top scorer for being a shutdown center, which means there could be some offense he can pitch in. He was so good last year that Verbeek called him up.

Right now, Gaucher seems like years away from being an NHL prospect. Caulfield showed some speed and grit. We kinda need BO to hit to give the Ducks some cushion, especially if we don't retain Lundy - and it's essentially a trial run without Lundy for a few months.

 

[Rasp]

Id like to see Lundy get a shot on a wing with McTavish before we yeet him off the team

 

[Gliff]

If any two of LaCombe, Mintyukov, and Luneau sit in the press box when the regular season starts, then one has to question their development process.



This isn't one practice though. These are the same d-pairings from a previous practice this week.

It’s one game lol.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

Id like to see Lundy get a shot on a wing with McTavish before we yeet him off the team

It'll be interesting to see where he slots in and who gets the boot when he comes back.

I personally think 3C suits him best. He hasn't looked good on the wing.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

It’s one game lol.

What are you talking about. Are you referring to me correcting a poster stating the def lineup is like this for only one practice? Guess we don't like facts.

 

[Gliff]

What are you talking about. Are you referring to me correcting a poster stating the def lineup is like this for only one practice? Guess we don't like facts.

The first part, about questioning the development process.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

The first part, about questioning the development process.

• Practice pairs
  • Fowler-Drysdale
  • Vaaks-Gudas
  • Minty*-Lyubushkin
  • LaCombe*-Luneau*
    * = rookie

The starting blueline roster is set with 8 d-men, three of which are rookies. Either two d-men will be in the press box or one in the press box with another getting shafted minutes each game. Are all three rookies going to be on ice in the same game for every game except the first game?

If Luneau gets in, then one of Drysdale, Gudas, or Lyubuskin sits. RD looks harder to break into than LD. Apparently, Vaaks is a GM fav; does that mean the rotation will be between Minty and LaCombe? If so, then one LD rookie isn't getting playing reps.

It makes no sense what you're saying with "one game". Someone(s) gotta sit in the press box not getting reps and it's likely to be at least one rookie. I've predicted often that this year and next were development seasons, but trying to jump start the blue line like this is feels like an experimental season. Are we rushing youths again?

 

[lwvs84]

• Practice pairs
  • Fowler-Drysdale
  • Vaaks-Gudas
  • Minty*-Lyubushkin
  • LaCombe*-Luneau*
    * = rookie

The starting blueline roster is set with 8 d-men, three of which are rookies. Either two d-men will be in the press box or one in the press box with another getting shafted minutes each game. Are all three rookies going to be on ice in the same game for every game except the first game?

If Luneau gets in, then one of Drysdale, Gudas, or Lyubuskin sits. RD looks harder to break into than LD. Apparently, Vaaks is a GM fav; does that mean the rotation will be between Minty and LaCombe? If so, then one LD rookie isn't getting playing reps.

It makes no sense what you're saying with "one game". Someone(s) gotta sit in the press box not getting reps and it's likely to be at least one rookie. I've predicted often that this year and next were development seasons, but trying to jump start the blue line like this is feels like an experimental season. Are we rushing youths again?

My GUESS is that with 2 back to backs in our first 5 games, Vaaks/Minty and Dry/Luneau split them and don't play both days. Vaaks and Dry coming off injuries and Minty/Luneau are young and getting their first taste of NHL. LaCombe is a rookie, but he's a bit older and (seemed) more physically mature, so he might get the back to backs.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

My GUESS is that with 2 back to backs in our first 5 games, Vaaks/Minty and Dry/Luneau split them and don't play both days. Vaaks and Dry coming off injuries and Minty/Luneau are young and getting their first taste of NHL. LaCombe is a rookie, but he's a bit older and (seemed) more physically mature, so he might get the back to backs.

It is what it is, but a rookie or two will be missing game reps. We're going to experiment with three rookies.

 

[MMC]

• Practice pairs
  • Fowler-Drysdale
  • Vaaks-Gudas
  • Minty*-Lyubushkin
  • LaCombe*-Luneau*
    * = rookie

The starting blueline roster is set with 8 d-men, three of which are rookies. Either two d-men will be in the press box or one in the press box with another getting shafted minutes each game. Are all three rookies going to be on ice in the same game for every game except the first game?

If Luneau gets in, then one of Drysdale, Gudas, or Lyubuskin sits. RD looks harder to break into than LD. Apparently, Vaaks is a GM fav; does that mean the rotation will be between Minty and LaCombe? If so, then one LD rookie isn't getting playing reps.

It makes no sense what you're saying with "one game". Someone(s) gotta sit in the press box not getting reps and it's likely to be at least one rookie. I've predicted often that this year and next were development seasons, but trying to jump start the blue line like this is feels like an experimental season. Are we rushing youths again?

There's nothing wrong with having young, inexperienced players that we want to give an NHL look look to rotating in and out of the lineup for the first quarter of the season. There is plenty they can learn from watching from the sidelines.

 

[AngelDuck]

I don’t understand the process with Luneau. Send him back man. To have a 19 year old playing in this dumpster fire just seems aggressive. I hope they know what they’re doing

I get it with Minty

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

My GUESS is that with 2 back to backs in our first 5 games, Vaaks/Minty and Dry/Luneau split them and don't play both days. Vaaks and Dry coming off injuries and Minty/Luneau are young and getting their first taste of NHL. LaCombe is a rookie, but he's a bit older and (seemed) more physically mature, so he might get the back to backs.

I had a similar thought, although I think it's some combination of Vaaks, LaCombe, Mintyukov, and Luneau that get rotated between both games.

I think Drysdale plays the whole weekend.

I don’t understand the process with Luneau. Send him back man. To have a 19 year old playing in this dumpster fire just seems aggressive. I hope they know what they’re doing

I get it with Minty

Worked ok with McTavish.

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

I don’t understand the process with Luneau. Send him back man. To have a 19 year old playing in this dumpster fire just seems aggressive. I hope they know what they’re doing

I get it with Minty

I would bet money they are just keeping him around the team until Carlsson gets activated and then they'll send him down... Basically just an extended camp for him. His juniors team is like 1-7 right now.

 

[goonsaredumb]

I don’t understand the process with Luneau. Send him back man. To have a 19 year old playing in this dumpster fire just seems aggressive. I hope they know what they’re doing

I get it with Minty

His QMJHL team is a dumpster fire too, seems like the plan is to do what the Kraken did with Shane Wright last year, stretch out that 9 games, maybe a conditioning stint in the AHL, send him off to the World Juniors and then get him traded to a different Q team in the new year

 

[AngelDuck]

I had a similar thought, although I think it's some combination of Vaaks, LaCombe, Mintyukov, and Luneau that get rotated between both games.

I think Drysdale plays the whole weekend.


Worked ok with McTavish.

McTavish was a very very high level(arguably blue chip) prospect. I like Luneau, but is he as ready as Mac was? I don’t know the answer but I hope the ducks do before they keep him here too long

His QMJHL team is a dumpster fire too, seems like the plan is to do what the Kraken did with Shane Wright last year, stretch out that 9 games, maybe a conditioning stint in the AHL, send him off to the World Juniors and then get him traded to a different Q team in the new year

Can understand this process . Don’t know if I agree though

 

[Sean Garrity]

I don’t understand the process with Luneau. Send him back man. To have a 19 year old playing in this dumpster fire just seems aggressive. I hope they know what they’re doing

I get it with Minty

Worked ok with McTavish.

I would bet money they are just keeping him around the team until Carlsson gets activated and then they'll send him down... Basically just an extended camp for him. His juniors team is like 1-7 right now.

Luneau's CHL team is arguably more of a dumpster fire than we potentially are. Also, I think there's value in getting NHL practice time in, learning from a NHL coaching staff and NHLers than dominating juniors for a period of time. There's really nothing for him to prove at that level. I'm not saying keep him with the big club the entire season, but you've gotta reward him for his preseason and camp efforts, give him some NHL coaching and then send him off with specific areas to work on in the CHL.

 

[lwvs84]

I had a similar thought, although I think it's some combination of Vaaks, LaCombe, Mintyukov, and Luneau that get rotated between both games.

I think Drysdale plays the whole weekend.

It's possible, I just figured 2 RHD and 2 LHD would cycle. Drysdale missed basically all of last season and most of training camp, so my thought is they would ease him back. I'm not sure how Gudas/Lybushkin/Drysdale/Luneau all play (since I don't think any play the off side?). I guess it hasn't stopped coaches in the past playing them in uncomfortable positions.

 

[Sean Garrity]

It's possible, I just figured 2 RHD and 2 LHD would cycle. Drysdale missed basically all of last season and most of training camp, so my thought is they would ease him back. I'm not sure how Gudas/Lybushkin/Drysdale/Luneau all play (since I don't think any play the off side?). I guess it hasn't stopped coaches in the past playing them in uncomfortable positions.

Lacombe has a long history of playing the right side, and I believe he played there in a couple of preseason games as well. Just something to keep in mind.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

It's possible, I just figured 2 RHD and 2 LHD would cycle. Drysdale missed basically all of last season and most of training camp, so my thought is they would ease him back. I'm not sure how Gudas/Lybushkin/Drysdale/Luneau all play (since I don't think any play the off side?). I guess it hasn't stopped coaches in the past playing them in uncomfortable positions.

2 things lead me to believe Drysdale doesn't sit:

1. Cronin's comment about Drysdale being a top 4 guy.
2. He's been paired with Cam.

Wouldn't surprise me if I'm wrong though, given your point about him coming back from injury.

If Cronin were to cycle 2 RHD and 2LHD, it could be Mintyukov, Lyubushkin, LaCombe, and Luneau that play and sit given the pairings from yesterday:

McTavish was a very very high level(arguably blue chip) prospect. I like Luneau, but is he as ready as Mac was? I don’t know the answer but I hope the ducks do before they keep him here too long


Can understand this process . Don’t know if I agree though

I think where the player is in their development is probably what's being considered more than whether a player is a blue chip prospect or not.

Luneau is a year further along in his development than McTavish was when he had his 9 games.

 

[AngelDuck]

Luneau's CHL team is arguably more of a dumpster fire than we potentially are. Also, I think there's value in getting NHL practice time in, learning from a NHL coaching staff and NHLers than dominating juniors for a period of time. There's really nothing for him to prove at that level. I'm not saying keep him with the big club the entire season, but you've gotta reward him for his preseason and camp efforts, give him some NHL coaching and then send him off with specific areas to work on in the CHL.

There’s a big difference between a dumpster fire in the CHL and a dumpster fire in the NHL as a 19 year old. He’s not going to be overwhelmed on his junior team no matter how bad they are

 

[Sean Garrity]

There’s a big difference between a dumpster fire in the CHL and a dumpster fire in the NHL as a 19 year old. He’s not going to be overwhelmed on his junior team no matter how bad they are

I mean maybe, but then he's not learning from NHL players and coaching staffs on how to manage being on a dumpster fire of a team. I trust the advice and example given by a Fowler, Rico or Silfv over whatever overager they have on his CHL team.

There's obviously no "correct" way to develop a player.