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Can someone translate injured nonroster to English for me? Is there a minimum or maximum number of games or days missed?
I think in either case (injured non-roster vs. injured reserve), it's 7 days minimum from when they were injured. In Carlsson's case, I'm not sure whether they dated it to the day he got injured, or today.

As far as non-roster vs. injured reserve, I think it's as simple as Killorn was already on the roster (which is why he is injured reserve), and Carlsson technically wasn't since he was just an ELC player attending camp.
 

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Wonder if the omission of Lundestrom was just an oversight, or an implication that he's really not expected back all year.
 
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I'm lost with having three rookies on the blue line. Are we rotating these rookies into the lineup? That's the opposite of development because they are missing lots of playing time to bench sitting.
I think the consensus is that Lenau will get his 9 games before going back to Juniors. Minty can most likely play until he has a noticeable loss in his step and can be sent to the Gulls. I think the development aspect also comes from being around the Big Club. Taking in the day to day, higher-level of practice, as well.
 
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  1. A club may place a player on the Injured Reserve List if such player is injured, disabled or ill and unable to perform his duties as a hockey player after having passed the Club's initial physical examination in that season.
  2. A player who has an injury that renders him physically unable to play for a minumum of seven days after that date of the injury can be placed on the Club's Injured Reserve List. Once a player is placed on the list, the Club may replace said player on its NHL roster with another player. All determinations that a player has suffered an injury warranting injured reserve status must be made by the Club's medical staff and in accordance with the Club's medical standards.
  3. A player placed on Injured Reserve is ineligible to compete in NHL games for a period of not less than seven days.
  4. Players on Injured Reserve may attend Club meetings and meals, travel with the Club and participate in practice sessions.
 
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I'm lost with having three rookies on the blue line. Are we rotating these rookies into the lineup? That's the opposite of development because they are missing lots of playing time to bench sitting.
They might do that for the first month of the season until Luneau gets 9 games. Or they may just have Luneau with the team until opening night since the Ducks have another four days of practice. Apparently Luneau's junior team is hot garbage, so maybe the Ducks just want to keep him with the big club as long as possible before sending him back. I expect him to head back to juniors sooner rather than later.
 
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I think the consensus is that Lenau will get his 9 games before going back to Juniors. Minty can most likely play until he has a noticeable loss in his step and can be sent to the Gulls. I think the development aspect also comes from being around the Big Club. Taking in the day to day, higher-level of practice, as well.
Since it's expected his junior team is gonna be bad this year, having him play 9 games with the Ducks perhaps increases chances his junior team starts its season worse without him and increases odds they trade him sooner than later ?
 

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I’m not sure I understand this Luneau situation. I really hope they send him back.

He’s not ready

I imagine it gives drysdale time to get back up to speed…. Missed most of last season + most of camp.

We can have luneau train with Anaheim for time being and give drysdale games off when needed.

I don’t really think there is a whole lot for luneau to improve on in juniors so some time with the big club may be more beneficial at least up to 9 game mark then send him back for world juniors
 

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I imagine it gives drysdale time to get back up to speed…. Missed most of last season + most of camp.

We can have luneau train with Anaheim for time being and give drysdale games off when needed.

I don’t really think there is a whole lot for luneau to improve on in juniors so some time with the big club may be more beneficial at least up to 9 game mark then send him back for world juniors
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I imagine it gives drysdale time to get back up to speed…. Missed most of last season + most of camp.

We can have luneau train with Anaheim for time being and give drysdale games off when needed.

I don’t really think there is a whole lot for luneau to improve on in juniors so some time with the big club may be more beneficial at least up to 9 game mark then send him back for world juniors
Not giving you shit here because I know it is a common take, but I don’t understand how people think a player can’t learn more as a 19 year old in junior. He was good but it isn’t like he was Bedard or anything.

Obviously it would be better if he was in the AHL, but it isn’t like he is playing in a rec league.
 

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I imagine it gives drysdale time to get back up to speed…. Missed most of last season + most of camp.

We can have luneau train with Anaheim for time being and give drysdale games off when needed.

I don’t really think there is a whole lot for luneau to improve on in juniors so some time with the big club may be more beneficial at least up to 9 game mark then send him back for world juniors

Keep him with the club as long as possible to get those NHL people in his ear, give him some teaching points and specific things to work on when sent back to juniors.
 

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Not giving you shit here because I know it is a common take, but I don’t understand how people think a player can’t learn more as a 19 year old in junior. He was good but it isn’t like he was Bedard or anything.

Obviously it would be better if he was in the AHL, but it isn’t like he is playing in a rec league.
I did say "wasnt a whole lot".... so i did imply there was still things he could work on there... i just dont think its the best spot for him (which like you said would prob be the AHL).

but i think the team sees a similar thing, and want him learning up with the big club (even if he isnt playing nightly)... it also gives us a mobile option on the right side, if drysdale takes a little time to get back to form... they can swap them in and out to extend his time up with the big club. I think ultimately the stuff hes going to learn up in the NHL > what hed be learning in juniors right now . Wasnt like he was a offensive only guy... he kinda dominated the ice on both sides in juniors already.

Hes def going back to juniors... i imagine well keep him around the NHL as long as possible before we send him back to go to world juniors... i also imagine hell be moved to a contender... and have a long chl playoffs to learn in.
 
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I imagine it gives drysdale time to get back up to speed…. Missed most of last season + most of camp.

We can have luneau train with Anaheim for time being and give drysdale games off when needed.

I don’t really think there is a whole lot for luneau to improve on in juniors so some time with the big club may be more beneficial at least up to 9 game mark then send him back for world juniors

Hmmm... that might be a good idea of Luneau taking Drysdale's spot until Drysdale's ready. That could be the reason we have seen a LaCombe-Luneau pairing now, which was the pairing at the rookie tourney and early pre-season game(s), iirc.

As for Luneau returning to juniors, he now has the ability to understand how to play defense that the org wants at a pro level. Luneau needs those reps and doing it at juniors is a great way to implement playing with a defensive structure. Also, Luneau still needs to work on his speed burst. Improving his first few steps is still a goal for Luneau as well as adding more mass. Luneau will get worn down faster against pros at this age than against playing against his peers.

IMO, Luneau plays too aggressive too often. This is evident when playing with LaCombe, who is calmer on the ice, but has the ability to be aggressive when the situation is called for. LaCombe played a lot of 1v2 during rookie tourney b/c his partner (Luneau or another) would be too aggressive and miss intercepting the pass or player.
 

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The Ducks went through all of last season without ever scoring a goal while they were in a short-handed situation. They were the only team to never score at four-on-five, and they also never scored at any of the other strengths the league considered short-handed (three-on-five, three-on-six or four-on-six). But despite that, they still got credit for a short-handed goal last season.

How? By scoring a penalty shot against the Panthers, one that was awarded when they were down a man. That goes into the books as a short-handed goal, even though their opponent didn’t have any skaters on the ice when it happened.”

This is an interesting little stat from the Athletic.

Hopefully the roster is better on the PK this year and they get an actual short handed goal without it being a penalty shot.
 
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The new ducks stream features a convo between Etem, Gudas, Strome and Killorn. Pretty entertaining. It's mostly agreed by everyone that Gudas's daughter takes after her dad and is some kind of barbarian. Killorn seemed to not really know when he'd be back in the lineup. Anyway they all seemed eager to get on the road and get the season started.
 

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The new ducks stream features a convo between Etem, Gudas, Strome and Killorn. Pretty entertaining. It's mostly agreed by everyone that Gudas's daughter takes after her dad and is some kind of barbarian. Killorn seemed to not really know when he'd be back in the lineup. Anyway they all seemed eager to get on the road and get the season started.
Gudas is a funny guy, and super nice. Strome is also very likable.
 

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The Ducks went through all of last season without ever scoring a goal while they were in a short-handed situation. They were the only team to never score at four-on-five, and they also never scored at any of the other strengths the league considered short-handed (three-on-five, three-on-six or four-on-six). But despite that, they still got credit for a short-handed goal last season.

How? By scoring a penalty shot against the Panthers, one that was awarded when they were down a man. That goes into the books as a short-handed goal, even though their opponent didn’t have any skaters on the ice when it happened.”

This is an interesting little stat from the Athletic.

Hopefully the roster is better on the PK this year and they get an actual short handed goal without it being a penalty shot.

In 2021-22, we had six shorties: Lundy with 4, Grant with 1, and Des with 1.

The lone shortie in the 2022-23 season belonged to Lundy, on a penalty shot as reported.

There's two factors at play here for the drop. First one is Lundy never fully recovered from an injury, which negated his speed and play on the ice in all situations. The second factor is we probably had better blueliners defending on the PK to help spring forwards for a shortie.

At this year's rookie tourney, F Pitre scored a shortie with his speed. What is lost is D LaCombe sliding into position to prevent a pass from near the boards to slot with his stick. That caused the puck to flutter over the intended opposing forward and in front of Pitre.

Maybe with better D on the PK, the Ducks can improve their chances. Although, we're gonna have to rely on Groulx, Carrick, and Vatrano to be the speedy forwards... unless Silf connects with his inner Thor for spell.
 
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