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He had one of the better offensive seasons for a rookie defenseman in NHL history. Top-100ish if I remember right. That's more than just hype and potential. I kind of doubt the team is looking to bridge him; now's the perfect time to lock him up while his leverage is weak.

Jamie should be looking to bridge, not the other way round.
He also has had some of the worst defensive impacts on the team, and in the entire league. That could absolutely be attributed to his age and coaching/systems, but I would prefer to see how his defensive game progresses before committing big money to him. Also, I don't personally think he will be our top PP defensemen over Zellweger or Mintyukov in the future, which would impact his future point totals.
 
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He also has had some of the worst defensive impacts on the team, and in the entire league. That could absolutely be attributed to his age and coaching/systems, but I would prefer to see how his defensive game progresses before committing big money to him. Also, I don't personally think he will be our top PP defensemen over Zellweger or Mintyukov in the future, which would impact his future point totals.
Yeah I'm not saying he's worth 8x8 or whatever, the point is that he might be and he should wait to commit long term while he removes any doubt. It's the team who should want to lock him up right now before he can.
 

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He had one of the better offensive seasons for a rookie defenseman in NHL history. Top-100ish if I remember right. That's more than just hype and potential. I kind of doubt the team is looking to bridge him; now's the perfect time to lock him up while his leverage is weak.

Jamie should be looking to bridge, not the other way round.

I like the kid but hes played 113 games and had some glaring holes to address. Putting up decent numbers for 1 season and then getting hurt and missing 73 games isnt exactly a proven history of anything that would warrant giving him a long term deal.

He has the potential to be a PP stud. He has the potential to address his defensive liabilities. He has the potential to not be hampered by injuries. I just want to see it before I pay the guy.

I think the team should want more information to go off of and not risk paying a guy 10x what hes worth and potentially hurting the team long term because you gave out a stupid contract. Id rather be sure we are paying the right guy the $$, especially considering the kind of talent we have coming along.
 

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I like the kid but hes played 113 games and had some glaring holes to address. Putting up decent numbers for 1 season and then getting hurt and missing 73 games isnt exactly a proven history of anything that would warrant giving him a long term deal.

He has the potential to be a PP stud. He has the potential to address his defensive liabilities. He has the potential to not be hampered by injuries. I just want to see it before I pay the guy.

I think the team should want more information to go off of and not risk paying a guy 10x what hes worth and potentially hurting the team long term because you gave out a stupid contract. Id rather be sure we are paying the right guy the $$, especially considering the kind of talent we have coming along.

I think with the two extremes, high scoring rookie season and a lost season due to injury, the org should try to sign Drysdale long term on the cheap.

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Theodore's ELC ended in 2018-19 and Vegas signed him to a 7-year contract worth $5.2 mil AAV. Theodore is mostly offense and that's where Drysdale is right now, but Drysdale was producing well earlier in his hockey career than Theodore.

Could you imagine signing Drysdale to a 7-year contract worth $4.5-$5.5 mil AAV?

This is why Drysdale shouldn't take that deal. Do a bridge deal to where he can show he can stay healthy and put up points consistently. Drysdale could make far more than $5.5 mil AAV if he's that productive offensively and defensively on a bridge deal.

Drysdale's injury was a torn labrum in his left shoulder. His skating shouldn't be an issue and he's a fast skater. With a season off and has been working out in the summer, Drysdale should be in great physical health this year. The unknown is how behind his skills are for missing a season of hockey and how long it will take him to match or surpass his previous play.
 
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I like the kid but hes played 113 games and had some glaring holes to address. Putting up decent numbers for 1 season and then getting hurt and missing 73 games isnt exactly a proven history of anything that would warrant giving him a long term deal.

He has the potential to be a PP stud. He has the potential to address his defensive liabilities. He has the potential to not be hampered by injuries. I just want to see it before I pay the guy.

I think the team should want more information to go off of and not risk paying a guy 10x what hes worth and potentially hurting the team long term because you gave out a stupid contract. Id rather be sure we are paying the right guy the $$, especially considering the kind of talent we have coming along.
No, he validated his 6th overall pick by showing what he could do in that first year. It wouldn't be ridiculous to offer him a long term deal, likely worst case scenario is he's an offenseman who can't be trusted to be responsible but can bring you 40 points in transition. That's an NHL player who could find a middle pair role on most teams and it'd be a good idea to lock that player up, at the right price.

I feel like people are miscategorizing a long-term deal as a reward or something. This is something that could benefit the team. Anyway I'm not arguing for it, I'm just pointing out that if anyone wants a long-term deal at this point it's probably the team and not the player.
 

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Drysdale at 5 mill long term would be a steal, in my opinion.

If you look at the D-man making 5 million, I doubt Drysdale will be worse than any of them and the cap will go up.

You don't pay guys based on what they earned, you pay them based on what you think they will be worth. Otherwise we'd be offering Perry 7 million this off season.
 
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Any reason Drysdale hasn't signed yet? Is he coming to camp?
nothing in particular that we've heard. Solomon and Verbeek are basically tough negotiators and the agents probably are as well, Zegras agent said the hope is that everything is done by next week and i'm sure Drysdale has the same goal.
 
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Reading the Athletic sometimes does feel like you're reading a ChatGPT article. I felt like that even before ChatGPT became available. Just 1-2 sentence info made into an article

I think we have to remember, though, that there is more than one type of fan. Many Ducks fans, like my father, pay for season tickets but don't follow the news surrounding the team very often and definitely not on message boards. When he checks in, articles like this help succinctly explain the dynamics currently with the team. It sucks for hardcore fans that want more info/access, but definitely useful for lots of people.
 
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