Speculation: 2023-24 Roster Thread

[All Mighty]

Well it’s now September, and no Zegras/Drysdale contracts.

I don’t have an issue with them not being signed yet. I just don’t want them missing any training camp. So that’s about 2 weeks.

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

Looks like Comtois is signing a PTO with Vegas

 

[DavidBL]

Bored so I took a look at the depth chart on Capfriendly and here's how it's listed:

Henrique - Zegras - Terry
Vatrano - Strome - Killorn
Jones - McTavish - Silfverberg
McGinn - Carrick - Leason

Scratched: Regenda & Agozzino

Fowler - Drysdale
Hagg - Gudas
Vaakanainen - Lyubushkin

Scratched: White

Gibson
Stalock

That's how the site lists it? I'd definitely make some changes
Rico-McTavish-Terry
Vatrano-Z-Killorn
Jones-Carlsson-Strome
McGinn-Carrick- Silf

Fowler- Gudas
Vaak/Hagg-Drysdale
Lacombe-Lybushkin

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

That's how the site lists it? I'd definitely make some changes
Rico-McTavish-Terry
Vatrano-Z-Killorn
Jones-Carlsson-Strome
McGinn-Carrick- Silf

Fowler- Gudas
Vaak/Hagg-Drysdale
Lacombe-Lybushkin

I like that a lot. That second line could really be a handful for other teams with how feisty Vatrano and Z can be.

 

[All Mighty]

That's how the site lists it? I'd definitely make some changes
Rico-McTavish-Terry
Vatrano-Z-Killorn
Jones-Carlsson-Strome
McGinn-Carrick- Silf

Fowler- Gudas
Vaak/Hagg-Drysdale
Lacombe-Lybushkin

I don't think we are ready for McTavish/Z/Carlsson as our top 3 centers quite yet. I'd probably just make the 3rd line Carlsson-Strome-Jones at least to start the year (assuming Carlsson is in the NHL). I'd also put Groulx in at 4C, or maybe 4LW.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I was looking up some stats and found it a bit crazy that the last time we had a player who played most of the season and had over a point per game was Getzlaf in 2017-2018….it’s been a while.

Who’s the next one to do it? I’d probably say Zegras but a case could be made for a few others as well.

Either way, this teams desperately needs a lot more offense.

After watching the Killorn interview where he said Oatsie taught him to think of the next move once you've secured the puck, I believe Killorn will be a big bonus to our offense. We have added a 20+ goal scorer to the team.

Also, how much McTavish can improve with a proper summer after his rookie season (D+2), producing at a 0.54 ppg rate? Zegras went from 0.54 ppg in his first 24 NHL games (D+2) and the following season improved to 0.81 ppg.

We have the personnel to run a top-10 PP, but I don't think we have the coach to do it. If coach Brown can improve his scheme, then that is another way vastly improve our offense. Maybe having both LaCombe and Drysdale could also be a boon on the PP? Or if we can keep Fowler from playing on the PK unit.

Spoiler: Special Teams splits from 2021-22 and 2022-23

2021-22	Ducks	ST	splits
Game Set	Games	PPG	PPO	PP Eff		PK GA	TSH	PK Eff
1 to 33	33	23	90	25.6%		12	85	85.9%
34 to 62	29	19	85	22.4%		17	89	80.9%
63 to 82	20	6	44	13.6%		14	50	72.0%

When the TDL happened, we were forced to put Fowler on the PK unit and our PP suffered because of it as well as having traded out Rakell.

2022-23	Ducks	ST	Splits
Game Set	Games	PPG	PPO	PP Eff		PK GA	TSH	PK Eff
Total	82	36	229	15.7%		78	280	72.1%
1 to 25	25​	12	72	16.7%	0	31	89	65.2%
26 to 49	24​	11	69	15.9%	0	17	81	79.0%
50 to 61	12​	5	36	13.9%	0	10	44	77.3%
62 to 82	21​	8	52	15.4%	0	20	66	69.7%

Fowler was part of the PK unit all season long.

I'm not really worried about scoring. I'm scared about our defense. We can win more games with a good defense and low scoring offense, but we don't often win games with more offense and no defense.

 

[Leonardo87]

@Hockey Duckie i still don’t know why we didn’t get a new PP coach. Totally agree we have the roster to ice a Top 10 PP.

If the PP was even half decent last season, like around 20%, our guys could easily have another 10-15 points for those who got prime PP time.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

I'm willing to bet the PP will be better this year, just because Eakins is nowhere near any of these guys.

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

I'm willing to bet the PP will be better this year, just because Eakins is nowhere near any of these guys.

Don’t worry, Newell Brown is here to complete a 3rd stint of failure here.

 

[DavidBL]

Don’t worry, Newell Brown is here to complete a 3rd stint of failure here.

Wasn't he at one point in charge of a good PP?

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

Wasn't he at one point in charge of a good PP?

Multiple Hall of Famers on it, I could have coached that

 

[robbieboy3686]

Bored so I took a look at the depth chart on Capfriendly and here's how it's listed:

Henrique - Zegras - Terry
Vatrano - Strome - Killorn
Jones - McTavish - Silfverberg
McGinn - Carrick - Leason

Scratched: Regenda & Agozzino

Fowler - Drysdale
Hagg - Gudas
Vaakanainen - Lyubushkin

Scratched: White

Gibson
Stalock

You forgot big bad kass on that 4th line

 

[12ozPapa]

You forgot big bad kass on that 4th line

Calm down, Dirk.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

@Hockey Duckie i still don’t know why we didn’t get a new PP coach. Totally agree we have the roster to ice a Top 10 PP.

If the PP was even half decent last season, like around 20%, our guys could easily have another 10-15 points for those who got prime PP time.

Spoiler: PP Productions per player, 2021-22 vs 2022-23

2021-22	Ducks	PP Productions
Player	PP Goals	PP Assists	PP Points
Zegras	9​	8​	17​
Terry	8​	7​	15​
Rico	6​	5​	11​
Fowler	6​	12​	18​
Milano	5​	5​	10​
Rakell	5​	4​	9​
Getzlaf	2​	9​	11​
Grant	2​	0​	2​
Lettieri	2​	3​	5​
Shattenkirk	1​	13​	14​
Lindholm	1​	3​	4​
Silf	1​	4​	5​
Drysdale	0​	12​	12​
Steel	0​	3​	3​
Comtois	0​	2​	2​
McTavish	0​	1​	1​
Pateryn	0​	1​	1​
Sum	48​	92​	140​

Double digits PP point producers = 8 players

2022-23	Ducks	PP Productions
Player	PP Goals	PP Assists	PP Points
McTavish	7​	7​	14​
Terry	5​	7​	12​
Vatrano	5​	4​	9​
Zegras	4​	13​	17​
Fowler	4​	10​	14​
Rico	4​	6​	10​
Silf	4​	3​	7​
Strome	1​	3​	4​
Shattenkirk	1​	7​	8​
Klingberg	1​	5​	6​
Comtois	0​	2​	2​
Grant	0​	2​	2​
Gibson	0​	1​	1​
Sum	36​	70​	106​

Double digit producers = 5 players

I'm quite disappointed in Brown's PP implementation. With the Klingberg signing, I thought we found a replacement for Fowler's PP1 position, but nope. Losing Drysdale didn't help either, as he provided 12 PP points (all assists) in 2021-22.

The only player who improved on their production between the two seasons was McTavish. The only player to reproduce their PP production between the two seasons was Zegras.

I hope getting Drysdale back and the addition of Lacombe can help with the PP. In 2021-22, we had three defensemen in double digit PP points. Last year, we had only one.

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

IIRC, Silf was around 0.5ppg for the last quarter or so of the season. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was on a third line with Carlsson, especially given the Swedish connection.

I also still hope to see Regenda at some point this season. Hopefully over Leason, who does nothing for me.

 

[Reveille1984]

I don't think we are ready for McTavish/Z/Carlsson as our top 3 centers quite yet. I'd probably just make the 3rd line Carlsson-Strome-Jones at least to start the year (assuming Carlsson is in the NHL). I'd also put Groulx in at 4C, or maybe 4LW.

If Carlsson's in the NHL for third line wing duty, wouldn't he be better served just staying in the SHL and getting more experience and confidence as a 1C?

 

[Dirk316]

Calm down, Dirk.

Mcginn fan?

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Mcginn fan?

Can we just agree at this point of his career, mcginn might be a better fighter than Kassian

 

[Hockey Duckie]

If Carlsson's in the NHL for third line wing duty, wouldn't he be better served just staying in the SHL and getting more experience and confidence as a 1C?

Or get sent to the AHL as a 1C. He'll be playing with a lot of new teammates at the rookie tourney as well as at training camp. The plus side about staying on NA ice is acclimating to the smaller rink as well as the smaller rink game play, speed, and physicality.

 

[Dirk316]

Can we just agree at this point of his career, mcginn might be a better fighter than Kassian

He might be but he Terry is more likely to drop the gloves

 

[robbieboy3686]

When does training camp start?

 

[McDonald19]

Can we just agree at this point of his career, mcginn might be a better fighter than Kassian

McGinn rarely fights so it doesn’t matter.

22-23: 1 fight
21-22: none
20-21: none
19-20: 1 fight
18-19: none

 

[McDonald19]

When does training camp start?

I don’t think they’ve officially said.

Rookie camp opens Sept. 13th though.

 

[AngelDuck]

Theyve got 2 weeks to get Zegras and Drysdale signed. Let’s do this

 

[Dirk316]

McGinn rarely fights so it doesn’t matter.

22-23: 1 fight
21-22: none
20-21: none
19-20: 1 fight
18-19: none

Verbeek called him a tough physical player along with Nesterenko. That leads me to believe Cronin insisted on Kassia