That was the issue, Ducks were running a line of Vatrano - Zegras - Strome, was one and done in the offensive zone and then they ended up pinned in their own zone afterwards.
As I said above I think once the Ducks get more depth he will be fine.
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That was the issue, Ducks were running a line of Vatrano - Zegras - Strome, was one and done in the offensive zone and then they ended up pinned in their own zone afterwards.
As I said above I think once the Ducks get more depth he will be fine.
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Gotta hope that Stroke learns to play some defense because our youths in the top-6 needs veteran help, especially when Rico is no longer with the team - which could be at the next TDL.
Putting Stroke with a defensive minded player in our top-6... hmmm....
Line 1: Rico-Zegras-Terry
Line 2: Fantilli-McTavish-Stroke
*If Fantilli goes pro.
Putting Stroke with a defensive minded player in our top-6... hmmm....
Line 1: Rico-Zegras-Terry
Line 2: Fantilli-McTavish-Stroke
*If Fantilli goes pro.
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All the talk of course is about Terry and Zegras's next contracts but honestly I'm anxious for us to start doing extensions of any type, both at the NHL and AHL level. Hope they start coming in soon, very interested to see who PV wants back.
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Hard to say, as unlike the name free agents there's no reports with those types of negotiations, though it wouldn't be shocking if there really isn't anyone hitting the market on July 1st that he considers a priority to bring back.
Curious to see what we do with the depth defensemen, IMO, bringing MDZ back should be a priority, which sounds goofy to say but Helleson praised the hell out of him in his exit interview and looked great, making it to the NHL by the end of the year. Definitely seems like someone that will help our young D develop. Priskie should also come back.
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Who stays, who goes? — A look at how the Ducks' roster might shift this summer
With some sticky contracts still on the books, what will the Ducks look to accomplish this summer?
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Locks to return:
McTavish
Fowler
Strome
McGinn
Jones
Carrick
Leason
Locks to return - RFA division:
Zegras
Terry
Drysdale
Dostal
Locks to return - assumed division:
Vatrano
Benoit
Should return - contract division:
Silverberg
White
Need to see more:
Vaakanainen
Would like to see more:
Nesterenko
Groulx
Will surely see more:
LaCombe
Helleson
Potential trade chips:
Gibson
Henrique
Lundestrom
In limbo:
Shattenkirk
Harrington
Comtois
Unlikely to see more:
Stolarz
Grant
Megna
Beaulieu
Eriksson Ek
Moore
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Getting real sick of Stephens pushing this narrative, it's seriously annoying at this pointWho stays, who goes? — A look at how the Ducks' roster might shift this summer
With some sticky contracts still on the books, what will the Ducks look to accomplish this summer?
Locks to return:
McTavish
Fowler
Strome
McGinn
Jones
Carrick
Leason
Locks to return - RFA division:
Zegras
Terry
Drysdale
Dostal
Locks to return - assumed division:
Vatrano
Benoit
Should return - contract division:
Silverberg
White
Need to see more:
Vaakanainen
Would like to see more:
Nesterenko
Groulx
Will surely see more:
LaCombe
Helleson
Potential trade chips:
Gibson
Henrique
Lundestrom
In limbo:
Shattenkirk
Harrington
Comtois
Unlikely to see more:
Stolarz
Grant
Megna
Beaulieu
Eriksson Ek
Moore
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Stephens the avg writer + no actual insider info ever. I’ve been tired of his bs for sometime now.
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He was no worse defensively than his line mates, and he can sustain a cycle and actually stand up for guys once in a while. He seems to invite whipping boy status but I don't have a problem with him and I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do in a more coherent defensive environment (assuming PV manages to put NHL players on the team).
Like I said above, as we get more depth, and a better overall roster, especially on D, he should be fine.
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I remember last summer where Stephens' article painted Gibby wanted out from an interview, but when the interview finally was made for public view, the sentiment of wanting out of Anaheim wasn't there. I guess when there's no hockey, it's easy for Stephens to put out clickbait articles that reveals his Moby Dick.
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Vatrano/Zegras/Terry
McTavish/Carlsson/Henrique - McT's hard shot with Carlsson's playmaking.
Henrique/McTavish/Terry
Zegras/Fantilli/Vatrano - Zegras playmaking with Fantilli's hard shot.
McTavish/Carlsson/Henrique - McT's hard shot with Carlsson's playmaking.
Henrique/McTavish/Terry
Zegras/Fantilli/Vatrano - Zegras playmaking with Fantilli's hard shot.
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I don't subscribe to either 18 year old to be the starting center in the NHL. They both can start at wing to get used to the speed and physicality while not adding the responsibility of being a center.
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Zegras-Terry vs McTavish Terry, at 5v5
The stats comes from Natural Stat Trick.
The possession numbers (CF%) with Zegras-Terry are even or better than 50%.
There's better chemistry with Zegras-Terry than McTavish-Terry.
The stats comes from Natural Stat Trick.
CF% above 50% is very good. We shot more than shots against.
CF% at 50% is good. Equal shots for and against.
CF% under 50% is not so good. We shot fewer shots than shots against.
Zegras-Terry | 2022-23 | | | | | |
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LW | C | RW | TOI | CF% | GF | GA |
Rico | Zegras | Terry | 285.54 | 52.5% | 14 | 15 |
Comtois | Zegras | Terry | 29.19 | 50.0% | 2 | 3 |
Nesterenko | Zegras | Terry | 4.4 | 88.9% | 1 | 0 |
Total | | | 319.13 | | 17 | 18 |
The possession numbers (CF%) with Zegras-Terry are even or better than 50%.
McTavish-Terry | 2022-23 | | | | | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
LW | C | RW | TOI | CF% | GF | GA |
Rico | McTavish | Terry | 127.03 | 41.4% | 4 | 6 |
Vatrano | McTavish | Terry | 3.04 | 33.3% | 0 | 0 |
Jones | McTavish | Terry | 115.1 | 46.4% | 8 | 6 |
Nesterenko | McTavish | Terry | 8.42 | 36.8% | 1 | 1 |
Zegras | McTavish | Terry | 2.49 | 33.3% | 1 | 1 |
Total | | | 256.08 | | 14 | 14 |
There's better chemistry with Zegras-Terry than McTavish-Terry.
He reminds me a lot of Shattenkirk, in that it seems like he gets along well with the younger guys and is a positive for the team even if I don't always love the product on the ice.
But agree with you totally in that I think he'll be fine and maybe even good when (if?) our team isn't a dumpster fire.
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I don't know about everyone else but I'm ready for the playoffs to be over and the true offseason to begin.
We're over a full year in with Verbeek as GM. Last summer seemed like a half improve (Vatrano and Strome), half tank (keeping Eakins, not really adding much to the D) summer that didn't really show a full commit to a direction (though, he didn't really do anything once the season started to stop the bleeding and accepted the tank). Hopefully, we get a little more direction and identity with the team after the summer moves... there's still plenty of cap space, he can bring in a coach that can really start turning things around, and there's plenty of draft picks/prospects stocked up (though, I'd rather not use those on short term stop gaps).
He can overpay on 2-3 year deals or add a young-ish player that's a cap casualty to this team and really make a push out of that bottom teams and hopefully end closer to the last playoff team than the last place team.
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I think the direction has been pretty clear. Bringing in Vatrano and Strome weren't efforts to improve the team insofar as making the playoffs. They were brought in to fill roster spots, get to the cap floor, and mentor the kids.
Not playoffs, but they shouldn't have been last in the league (though I'd think a most of that has to do with defensive "system" and losing a top 4 D for the season). We'll see if he adds a forward to play in the top 6, Vatrano-Lundestrom-Strome should be a solid 3rd line and bumps Silf down to 4th line/PK specialist.
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Agree on all accounts. You could make the argument that we lost two top 4 D considering how bad Klingberg was.
Regarding adding another forward, there have no doubt been attempts at that after hearing about the Niederreiter scenario last offseason and the Dadonov debacle last trade deadline. Seems like things outside Verbeek's control have kept him from executing in that regard.
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Verbeek could have signed Grimaldi before the season started. Verbeek could have also added Tolvanen when he was waived. Both are small scoring forwards that Verbeek didn't want on his NHL club.
The team defense collected didn't have any top-4 shutdown D. The closest we had to a shutdown D was probably Shattenkirk. When the team did lose Drysdale for the season, I don't recall picking anyone else up in his place. After the TDL, we were only carrying 6D. And when Harrington (iirc) fell to injury, we were forced to run with 5D for a game.
Sure looks like a tank by design and stylistically.
The only forward we'll get in the top-6 maybe the #2 pick overall because we're set to lose Rico this year and we'll get a preview of what a #2 pick can do in a growing pains year.
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Going into this year, it'll be different. I'm banking a lot on McTavish, Drysdale, and LaCombe for improvements that should keep us out of the bottom-3. If we have a competent PP coach, then maybe out of bottom-6.
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Zegras - McTavish is a line I would like to see. They complement each other well we would just need to find the right person to sit of their wing.
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Right now, I like having both McTavish and Zegras as our top-6 centers. Zegras and Terry play a similar game, but it's different from how McTavish plays.
I think a Fantilli-McTavish-Jones like can wreak havoc both offensively and defensively. Fantilli and Jones love to dish out big hits; both are speedy skaters too. McTavish plays that heavy game on offense to where I think those three can control the cycle like for two minutes straight.
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Wasn't sure where to put this:
Hebert has been perfect for the brand the team has adopted throughout the years (inoffensive/appealing to the broadest possible audience), but someone on here described him perfectly as "captain obvious." Apparently a smile is all it takes for some people.
Also, not that I don't think Aly Lozoff "knows the game" but that's a weird compliment to ascribe when most of her contributions to the broadcast are anecdotes about the players when they're away from the rink.
I don't mind Ahlers (for the most part) and think Hazy is pretty great, but I'm not necessarily opposed to the possibility of change. Hebert doesn't do much for me, but Aly and Frenchy are generally pretty good at what they do.
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Hebert has been perfect for the brand the team has adopted throughout the years (inoffensive/appealing to the broadest possible audience), but someone on here described him perfectly as "captain obvious." Apparently a smile is all it takes for some people.
Also, not that I don't think Aly Lozoff "knows the game" but that's a weird compliment to ascribe when most of her contributions to the broadcast are anecdotes about the players when they're away from the rink.
I don't mind Ahlers (for the most part) and think Hazy is pretty great, but I'm not necessarily opposed to the possibility of change. Hebert doesn't do much for me, but Aly and Frenchy are generally pretty good at what they do.
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