Killorn - Leo - Terry is not working. Cronin needs to stop going with this line. Last night should have been the final nail in the coffin.
I hope and pray Zegras is back next game.
I hope and pray Zegras is back next game.
Speculation: 2023-24 Roster Thread
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CrazyDuck4u
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Silf is the weakest player in our lineup now.. Hes only good for defensive play now.. Being on the third line.. It causes out third line to have no scoring at all.
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Hoping we try
Killorn Carlsson Zegras - in theory i think these 3 can mesh pretty well, havnt treid it yet... but i think its at least worth a shot for a couple games.
Vatrano McTavish Strome- Dont think we should mess with really, theyve been effective when played together most of the season, no rush to really take them apart
Jones- Henrique - Terry- Terry has shown in the past he doesnt really need talent around him to be effective, and hes also shown chemistry with Henrique. Jones can be a pesty/forechecker and go to dirty areas and create room for Terry... henrique just does what he does which is basicaly nothing for 80% of games but occasionally will have a goal/assist and everyone will say "f*** you haters". I think this line allows terry to play vs better matchups, and i dont think any of us will mind him holding on to the puck too long with these line mates because odds are they werent going to do anything if they got a pass anyway.
Leason - Carrick - Johnston - should be our go to 4th line, out of all of our lines this year they have been the 2nd best (not production wise, but in terms of doing whats epxected of them)
Silf should just be w/ team for moral support.
Btw I apologize for locking the GDT up early. I want to forget that game even happened same as the Blackhawks game.
Ducks continue to find ways to lose, it’s gotten that bad yet again. But hey, special teams have actually been solid this season. Who would have thought. lol
So yeah let’s discuss the roster here today and tomorrow before Wednesday’s game. They will most likely have a practice tomorrow and can see how close Z, Drysdale and even Mac are from returning if they are fully practicing.
Ducks continue to find ways to lose, it’s gotten that bad yet again. But hey, special teams have actually been solid this season. Who would have thought. lol
So yeah let’s discuss the roster here today and tomorrow before Wednesday’s game. They will most likely have a practice tomorrow and can see how close Z, Drysdale and even Mac are from returning if they are fully practicing.
Agreed. He'd be a decent 4th line/PK specialist and shows flashes, but we have so many 4th line players right now and the current 4th line is playing well. I prefer the Jones-Henrique-Terry 3rd line, have Silf rotate in on the 4th line or be the healthy scratch. He's had so many health issues/injuries, just let him retire at the end of the year healthy. We don't need the cap space.
McDonald19
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McTavish is on the active roster, Hagg demotion will open a spot for Drysdale. A forward will need to be waived to open a spot for Zegras, correct?
All Mighty
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I’m sorry, but if Johnston isn’t fighting or throwing big hits (and he hasn’t done much of either recently), then why is he playing? He has by far the worst metrics on the team when he’s on the ice. I would totally get him being in the lineup if he was actually being a menace, but he hasn’t been.
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Thats fair, hes just my default 4th liner... but Leason + carrick are the main guys... whoever can play with them. In theory johnston plays how you are suggesting and takes the spot.
All Mighty
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I agree with that. I haven’t minded McGinn lately (other than that penalty he took last night). Realistically we can just rotate that LW spot until someone takes it, or maybe depending on the opponent.
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i actually forget about mcginn constantly, not that hes played bad or anything.... just forget hes part of the roster.
McDonald19
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That’s debatable. Cronin also made the blunder of healthy scratching Johnston when he was actually needed to deal with MacDermid’s goon antics.
He's been a black hole on the ice. He can't catch up to anyone to hit them, he's out of position constantly, and the pucks that find his stick bounce off to the other team.
branmuffin17
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But having him in the lineup prevents Dirk from being even more grumpy than he normally is!
The Midnight Burrito
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I wouldn't have been upset with a couple games to Strome, it seems justifiable. But I guess the 5 is enough.
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Yeah im surprised he gets nothing. Would have expected just one at the least
I don't know. I get why they kept it as a 5-minute; I think they almost had to because of the injury. And I can see how it could be deemed reckless. But I don't see any intent there. He was going for a shoulder check until Connor shifted, but his right foot stayed on the same trajectory.
I wouldn't have gotten upset at a suspension - getting upset at the NHL DOPS is like getting upset at a random number generator - but I think no suspension is the right call.
He's a superfluous warm body imo. You never really see him do much outside of chipping the puck around.
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There was a 2-3 game stretch where the 4th line was hitting everything again, and McGinn was one of the guys doing the hitting every shift.
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McDonald19
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I haven’t really seen that. Johnston doesn’t turn over the puck, and actually makes decent plays. He also doesn’t take dumb penalties. Is he scoring? No, but neither are McGinn and Groulx.
Groulx has had a few moments that have actually wow'd me - a couple of really smart/creative plays navigating through traffic etc. But otherwise doesn't really do anything.
McGinn is like Groulx minus the wow-ing.
McGinn is like Groulx minus the wow-ing.
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Groulx’s value to the team has diminished because the young centers seem to be improving on faceoffs. Earlier in the year, he was one of two or three guys you needed to staple to the dot because he was one of the only ones who could win a draw.
He’s also a very good PKer, but in a developmental season, I’d like to see one of the top guys get a shot at short handed duties. Not that it’s the most important thing in the world, but it’d be nice to have an Aho-esque player out there who was a threat to score while a man down
He’s also a very good PKer, but in a developmental season, I’d like to see one of the top guys get a shot at short handed duties. Not that it’s the most important thing in the world, but it’d be nice to have an Aho-esque player out there who was a threat to score while a man down
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I dunno about questioning Cronin, who's missing several several forwards at his disposal while also having no control over Carlsson and Luneau's game day availability. We've improved our PP, PK, and ES GA. Our ES GF has been frozen.
Scoring 3 or more goals
- First 12 games: 7 times (58.3% of the time)
- Last 15 games: 5 times (33.3% of the time)
Zegras was available in the first 12 games. Despite scoring only 1g + 1a, he has helped the team by staying in the top-6. Killorn was on the 3rd line back then. When Z returns, then one of Killorn or Terry will be moved down to the third line and that'll give us more scoring depth.
This is akin to last season, but we were lacking defensive talent instead. It took a while for us to improve defensively, though we were still abysmal. We changed our game plan last year around game 25 and decided that we're gonna rely on our goalies to absorb more shots while we took chances offensively (pinching D).
| Ducks | '22-23 | ||||||||||
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| Game Set | Games | W | L | OTL | Pts | Pts Pct | GF | GA | GD | GD/Game | |
| Total | 82 | 23 | 47 | 12 | 58 | 35.4% | 209 | 338 | -129 | -1.57 | |
| 1 to 25 | 25 | 6 | 16 | 3 | 15 | 30.0% | 63 | 106 | -43 | -1.72 | |
| 26 to 49 | 24 | 9 | 13 | 2 | 20 | 41.7% | 60 | 99 | -39 | -1.63 | |
| 50 to 61 | 12 | 5 | 5 | 2 | 12 | 50.0% | 33 | 48 | -15 | -1.25 | |
| 62 to 82 | 21 | 3 | 13 | 5 | 11 | 26.2% | 53 | 85 | -32 | -1.52 |
Although this year's team is only 3 points better than last year's team, we have improved in several areas.
My only questioning with Cronin, he needs to change the top line, possibly the entire Top 6 combos. Maybe throw Vatrano up there to get them more speed. It’s not working now. In his defense though, things went to crap rather quickly last game, do didn’t expect him to make changes then. But Wednesday’s game need to start finding some lines that work. They have one ES goal 5on5 in the last 3 games, not good enough. Hopefully Zegras might be back Wednesday would be a huge lift to the Top 6.
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