2023-24 Roster Thread 4: September is National Bourbon Heritage Month

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CutOnDime97

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Just checked again right now. Not private and still has Flyers pics up. No mention of Flyers in his bio though.
Did you already follow him? Still private

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deadhead

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A timeline of events:

June 13th, 2023


June 22nd, 2023


September 7th, 2023


People change their minds. We should allow for this. But read the specific phrasing and draw your own conclusions.
The difference is that cap room has been valued higher this summer (the lack of markets for veteran offensive players even with retention).

Top draft picks seem to have risen in value (this may reflect more efficient drafting, has anyone done a study over time? With the increase in video availability, you'd expect teams to make fewer mistakes), especially 1sty rd picks.

A late first and late 3rd was my ceiling for Laughton, a 2nd just sounds like an overpay without a significant salary dump.
St Louis is still on the edge ($300K), even after dumping ROR, Tarasenko and Barebashev (and adding Vrana) at the TDL.

Not sure what their strategy is, they added a bunch of picks in the 2023 draft, but are stuck with a veteran core:
B Schenn (32) 5x$6.5
Saad (30) 3x$4.5
Hayes (31) 3x$3.6M
Faulk (31) 4x$6.5
Krug (32) 4x$6.5
Parakyko (30) 7x$6.5
Leddy (32) 3x$4.0
 

BrindamoursNose

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A timeline of events:

June 13th, 2023


June 22nd, 2023


September 7th, 2023


People change their minds. We should allow for this. But read the specific phrasing and draw your own conclusions.
"If You Love Chess, Which I Do, But You Don't Have Anybody To Play Against, Which I Don't, Then Sometimes, You Just Gotta Play Yourself." - @deadhead
 

deadhead

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"If You Love Chess, Which I Do, But You Don't Have Anybody To Play Against, Which I Don't, Then Sometimes, You Just Gotta Play Yourself." - @deadhead
Talking to yourself is fine as long as you don't engage in conspiracy theories - unfortunately, people seem to have fallen prey to that temptation on a regular basis these days, both on and off the board.
 
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FlyerNutter

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I’m feeling feisty lol - and it’s not even that I dislike him:sarcasm:

The legend of Vanilla Sanheim

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JojoTheWhale

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The difference is that cap room has been valued higher this summer (the lack of markets for veteran offensive players even with retention).

Top draft picks seem to have risen in value (this may reflect more efficient drafting, has anyone done a study over time? With the increase in video availability, you'd expect teams to make fewer mistakes), especially 1sty rd picks.

A late first and late 3rd was my ceiling for Laughton, a 2nd just sounds like an overpay without a significant salary dump.
St Louis is still on the edge ($300K), even after dumping ROR, Tarasenko and Barebashev (and adding Vrana) at the TDL.

Not sure what their strategy is, they added a bunch of picks in the 2023 draft, but are stuck with a veteran core:
B Schenn (32) 5x$6.5
Saad (30) 3x$4.5
Hayes (31) 3x$3.6M
Faulk (31) 4x$6.5
Krug (32) 4x$6.5
Parakyko (30) 7x$6.5
Leddy (32) 3x$4.0

I don't believe that an intelligent person thinks a 1st and a future 2nd is materially different than a 1st and a 3rd. Future picks are always worth slightly less.

If you want to change your valuation based on market fluctuations, by all means. Whether I agree or not is irrelevant.
 

Chinatown88

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I don't believe that an intelligent person thinks a 1st and a future 2nd is materially different than a 1st and a 3rd. Future picks are always worth slightly less.

If you want to change your valuation based on market fluctuations, by all means. Whether I agree or not is irrelevant.
1 = 1
2 < 3

The second one is betterererer
 
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deadhead

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People are complaining about the G trade? We got a 1st, 3rd and a 23 year old forward who scored 27 goals.
It's called "rebuilding." It was the right move to make and a good return (and helped the Flyers finish low enough to garner Michkov).

That's separate from bad decision making regarding Sanheim, Risto and TDA.
The rebuild should have started with that trade.
 
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