2023-24 Roster Thread 3: We Three Flyers

[Beef Invictus]

This just spews how little you understand the modern game in the NHL . He took over in Vancouver and did nothing but shit on players and they quickly realized their mistake and fired him inside a year . He got rehired in Columbus had some early success and then the team quickly went down hill with players refusing to resign , then crapping on players and them demanding out . Tort's has a my way or the highway attitude and players get real tired real quick .

The only reason he never got fired earlier in Columbus is they don't have the money to be paying two coaches . It,s his shit ass attitude and his lack being a little flexible plus his cluelessness about how to coach offense .

He jumps up and down and acts like an ass clown and talks the talk of he wants players to come and talk to him if they have issues . The problem is he talks the talk but it is a one sided talk which is not a conversation .

Tort,s , Sutter Babcock are old school mind game assholes and have no business coaching in the NHL now a days .

Most damning of all, he refuses to accept the game has evolved and changed. At least Sutter did recognize and adapt. Tortorella just throws a tantrum about it before blaming young players. It is pretty pathetic.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I should say I don’t think his point is invalid. I just don’t really see the point of making that tweet especially when you complain about the other side of the coin a lot. He could have left that tweet in the chamber.

 

[BrindamoursNose]

based on what? he has to win cups with the rangers, canucks, and bluejackets to satisfy you? how would you feel if lappy was the coach of the flyers? because that would probably the most logical choice if no one else was coming here. you are telling me you are confident with him?

you need good coaches to develop players, you are not going to win by throwing money at rookie coaches and being crap for 10 plus years, it seems like that's what you want because like i said you have a problem with tough coaches and even if torts leaves, they are not getting away from those coaches.

if you cant get over that then i dont understand you are rooting for this team then when he first got hired because it's not going to change, all great coaches have tough attitudes. like it or not.

Tortorella still coaches like he's in the pre salary cap era. Tortorella cries himself to sleep every single night because he doesn't have 12 Chris Dingman to block shots.

But yeah, winning a Cup in the salary cap era would make me think he's actually good. Until then, he's clearly the wrong coach at the wrong time. No idea why we hired him. Bottoming out with a cheap rookie coach would've been better.

 

[tucson83]

This just spews how little you understand the modern game in the NHL . He took over in Vancouver and did nothing but shit on players and they quickly realized their mistake and fired him inside a year . He got rehired in Columbus had some early success and then the team quickly went down hill with players refusing to resign , then crapping on players and them demanding out . Tort's has a my way or the highway attitude and players get real tired real quick .

The only reason he never got fired earlier in Columbus is they don't have the money to be paying two coaches . It,s his shit ass attitude and his lack being a little flexible plus his cluelessness about how to coach offense .

He jumps up and down and acts like an ass clown and talks the talk of he wants players to come and talk to him if they have issues . The problem is he talks the talk but it is a one sided talk which is not a conversation .

Tort,s , Sutter Babcock are old school mind game assholes and have no business coaching in the NHL now a days .

ok then he's the worst coach, you know everything and he's not going anywhere, so what are you going to do about it?

 

[Flyerfan4life]

I’m sure if we looked we wouldn’t find any examples of Charlie The Scold doing a similar thing, right?

Ghost says hi...

 

[tnfrs]

This just spews how little you understand the modern game in the NHL . He took over in Vancouver and did nothing but shit on players and they quickly realized their mistake and fired him inside a year . He got rehired in Columbus had some early success and then the team quickly went down hill with players refusing to resign , then crapping on players and them demanding out . Tort's has a my way or the highway attitude and players get real tired real quick .

The only reason he never got fired earlier in Columbus is they don't have the money to be paying two coaches . It,s his shit ass attitude and his lack being a little flexible plus his cluelessness about how to coach offense .

He jumps up and down and acts like an ass clown and talks the talk of he wants players to come and talk to him if they have issues . The problem is he talks the talk but it is a one sided talk which is not a conversation .

Tort,s , Sutter Babcock are old school mind game assholes and have no business coaching in the NHL now a days .

torts better get on board when Michkov gets here, cuz its gonna be the Matvei or the highvei for tortorella

 

[Beef Invictus]

ok then he's the worst coach, you know everything and he's not going anywhere, so what are you going to do about it?

Do you support bad things happening to your team?

 

[Flyerfan4life]

torts better get on board when Michkov gets here, cuz its gonna be the Matvei or the highvei for tortorella

your in for some big time disapointment..

just sayin...

 

[wasup]

ok then he's the worst coach, you know everything and he's not going anywhere, so what are you going to do about it?

No , I just don,t like how people say Torts, is a good coach and exactly what we need without any context as to why . He might be a coach that can come into a talented team and have short term success but his shelf life is very short .

We are a team ' building ' and a coach who does not understand the modern game { puck possession } vs dump chase and grind . I get annoyed when I see players get close to the blue line and then just dump it in without any pressure on them and I know it,s not the player doing it on his own . A lot of goals are scored off the rush but have no chance if you are just dump and chase . If you are cut off then fine but this does not happen . You take what the other team is giving you instead of this is the way we are doing it no matter what .

Defensively , which is suppose to be his key we get caught all the time just standing in a box letting the other team bomb away and eventually it hit off something and ends up in our net . The pressure defense without getting caught on the outside which the top teams do is exactly what is needed . Block shots block shots block shots is all I hear instead of press the guy with the puck keeping in the shot lane .

This is just his coaching style never mind all his antics . Then he hires guys like Rocky Thompson to coach the offense . He is a Tort's clone just more behind the scenes . AKA challenging Kane to a fight in the locker room . Imagine a coach verbally challenging a player to a fight inside the locker room in front of the other players . He played the exact same way tries to coach , zero offense muck and grind never mind all the penalties .

Sorry to take it out on you I don,t mean to be an ass , I just have and never have had any use for Tort,s and that was long before he came here .

 

[deadhead]

This just spews how little you understand the modern game in the NHL . He took over in Vancouver and did nothing but shit on players and they quickly realized their mistake and fired him inside a year . He got rehired in Columbus had some early success and then the team quickly went down hill with players refusing to resign , then crapping on players and them demanding out . Tort's has a my way or the highway attitude and players get real tired real quick .

The only reason he never got fired earlier in Columbus is they don't have the money to be paying two coaches . It,s his shit ass attitude and his lack being a little flexible plus his cluelessness about how to coach offense .

He jumps up and down and acts like an ass clown and talks the talk of he wants players to come and talk to him if they have issues . The problem is he talks the talk but it is a one sided talk which is not a conversation .

Tort,s , Sutter Babcock are old school mind game assholes and have no business coaching in the NHL now a days .

This is false. The problem in CBJ was the GM, Dubois said he had no problem with Torts, it was the organization playing hardball with him that made him force a trade. The only one who had a problem in CBJ was Dubinsky, when he was demoted to 3C. Panarin left b/c he always wanted to play in NYC, Duchene to go to Nashville, Bob for big money in Florida - after that the talent was depleted.

If you watched the playoffs, you might notice that every team "dumps and chases." There's only a handful of players on each team that are skilled enough to consistently make clean entries. And controlling the cycle through an aggressive forecheck, winning board battles to keep possessions, cycling low to high, etc. is a major part of the offense of a lot of top teams.

Flyers didn't have a lot of clean entries last year b/c they didn't have a lot of talented offense players, duh.

 

[Math the wild rose]

Staal played 82 games for Florida

Staal won’t “play on a regular basis” in Philly


Couturier should obviously wear the C. But Torts doesn’t want one because he wants to shit all over the players he doesn’t like without having a captain to get in the way.

I never liked Tortorella. He is too rough with the players. You don't coach young players this way anymore. They need psychology. Not a slap in the face.

 

[Math the wild rose]

You just Drafted Michkov and there is a solid group of prospects under your nose. You still argue that this team is shit just to argue...

Am I too positive? Or you just need to look deeper in this evil Aura and this loser way of thinking that will lead nowhere.

Your choices gentlemen.

 

[wasup]

This is false. The problem in CBJ was the GM, Dubois said he had no problem with Torts, it was the organization playing hardball with him that made him force a trade. The only one who had a problem in CBJ was Dubinsky, when he was demoted to 3C. Panarin left b/c he always wanted to play in NYC, Duchene to go to Nashville, Bob for big money in Florida - after that the talent was depleted.

I have talked to Dubois myself and you are mislead just like the media tries to lead you. Remember where he has been playing the last while and where I,m from . You read something in the press and just assume it true . Just look at how often our media print something and where they get it from { company line and press passes ] . Your problem is you fall for what is wrote on paper you don't get a chance to visit with players at golf courses or in the bars in the off season , you will get a complete different story . I have lots of friends in the hockey world and the shit that actually goes on is "F"ed as to what is written

p.s I know Panarin,s last agent and you are right on that one . He wanted a bigger market team it just ended up NY in the end .

 

[Beef Invictus]

This is false. The problem in CBJ was the GM, Dubois said he had no problem with Torts, it was the organization playing hardball with him that made him force a trade. The only one who had a problem in CBJ was Dubinsky, when he was demoted to 3C. Panarin left b/c he always wanted to play in NYC, Duchene to go to Nashville, Bob for big money in Florida - after that the talent was depleted.

If you watched the playoffs, you might notice that every team "dumps and chases." There's only a handful of players on each team that are skilled enough to consistently make clean entries. And controlling the cycle through an aggressive forecheck, winning board battles to keep possessions, cycling low to high, etc. is a major part of the offense of a lot of top teams.

Flyers didn't have a lot of clean entries last year b/c they didn't have a lot of talented offense players, duh.

 

[Deadpool8812]

Torts is an ass. It's pretty obvious he isn't liked by most players around the league.

Any coach that brings drama about players to the media Instead of keeping it between them is a huge red flag and wont sit well with most players. The problem is players aren't allowed to bad mouth their coach to the media without repercussions

 

[Math the wild rose]

Torts is an ass. It's pretty obvious he isn't liked by most players around the league.

Any coach that brings drama about players to the media Instead of keeping it between them is a huge red flag and wont sit well with most players. The problem is players aren't allowed to bad mouth their coach to the media without repercussions

The coach is always right untill he's fired.

Players aren't. That's how the two are working together.

 

[TB87]

I just have and never have had any use for Tort,s and that was long before he came here .

Tort’s is, has been, and will always be a smacked ass.

The love that people have for him has continually mystified me. Its a guarantee that those who think he’s great would hate his guts if he was their boss.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Torts is an ass. It's pretty obvious he isn't liked by most players around the league.

Any coach that brings drama about players to the media Instead of keeping it between them is a huge red flag and wont sit well with most players. The problem is players aren't allowed to bad mouth their coach to the media without repercussions

He knows that. He's a coward. He attacks the groups that can't fight back.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

He knows that. He's a coward. He attacks the groups that can't fight back.

And gets pissed when they don’t fight back.

 

[Math the wild rose]

Why would you want to fight back an ass that shit endlessly for no reason at all?

 

[deadhead]

Tort’s is, has been, and will always be a smacked ass.

The love that people have for him has continually mystified me. Its a guarantee that those who think he’s great would hate his guts if he was their boss.

I dunno. Some of the "nicest" bosses I had were sociopathic bastards, friendly caring, then when the company RIFF'ed, no explanation why you were on the list. Kind of guys who were your "Friend" when it came to encouraging 60 hour weeks, then cold hearted bastards when their bonus was on the line.

Which is why anyone who is loyal to a company or boss is a fool.

I had my share of mushroom management (keep 'em in the dark and throw shit on them), give me a SOB who gives you honest feedback.

 

[Beef Invictus]

I dunno. Some of the "nicest" bosses I had were sociopathic bastards, friendly caring, then when the company RIFF'ed, no explanation why you were on the list. Kind of guys who were your "Friend" when it came to encouraging 60 hour weeks, then cold hearted bastards when their bonus was on the line.

Which is why anyone who is loyal to a company or boss is a fool.

I had my share of mushroom management (keep 'em in the dark and throw shit on them), give me a SOB who gives you honest feedback.

So uh why are you so blindly loyal to the Flyers company and their bosses

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

Flyers been doing that mushroom management thing to their fans for a decade now.

 

[Tripod]

MUST DEFEND THE ASS!

 

[Deadpool8812]

I dunno. Some of the "nicest" bosses I had were sociopathic bastards, friendly caring, then when the company RIFF'ed, no explanation why you were on the list. Kind of guys who were your "Friend" when it came to encouraging 60 hour weeks, then cold hearted bastards when their bonus was on the line.

Which is why anyone who is loyal to a company or boss is a fool.

I had my share of mushroom management (keep 'em in the dark and throw shit on them), give me a SOB who gives you honest feedback.

Except Tortorella isn't just giving that "feedback" to the player, he's being a coward and bringing it out into the media as well. That's a sad and pathetic thing to do. I'm all for coaches giving giving honest feedback to players, but keep it between you two