2023-24 Roster Thread 1: Entering the Starting Gate

[BillDineen]

"the right way."

Keep throwing out those buzzwords, people.

It is so dumb to include Torts in their PR. He is going to lose the room sooner or later and they will have to try and sell him getting fired.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

Slogan's Heroes, your 2023 Flyrs with Jones as POPR

 

[deadhead]

It is so dumb to include Torts in their PR. He is going to lose the room sooner or later and they will have to try and sell him getting fired.

Other than Vancouver, Torts has had as long or longer tenure than Lavi at his stops:
TB: 7 seasons
NYR: 5 seasons
CBJ: 6 seasons

Lavi:
NYI: 2 years
CAR: 5 years
PHL: 4 years
Nash: 6 years
Wash: 3 years

So much for "wearing out his welcome."
The internet is out there, research is easy.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Lavi is a coach that is known to wear out his welcome himself so…

I also enjoy the “other than the most obvious time it happened” comment.

Wearing out your welcome goes deeper than length of stay.

 

[Curufinwe]

Other than Vancouver, Torts has had as long or longer tenure than Lavi at his stops:
TB: 7 seasons
NYR: 5 seasons
CBJ: 6 seasons

Lavi:
NYI: 2 years
CAR: 5 years
PHL: 4 years
Nash: 6 years
Wash: 3 years

So much for "wearing out his welcome."
The internet is out there, research is easy.

Your research involves comparing him to another old coach who is known to wear out his welcome quickly, and ignoring one of four data points for no apparent reason. No wonder you failed as an economist and a professor.

 

[deadhead]

Lavi is a coach that is known to wear out his welcome himself so…

I also enjoy the “other than the most obvious time it happened” comment.

Wearing out your welcome goes deeper than length of stay.

Almost every HC wears out his welcome eventually, guys like Gallant don't wait for "eventually."

You wonder about Sullivan in Pittsburgh with a new GM - would he even want to stay around for a long period of mediocrity.
Given that Sullivan was Tort's protege, the Flyers are rebuilding, this could be a landing spot in a couple years.
He signed an extension through 2026-27, Tort's last season is 2025-26. If Sullivan gets fired in a year or two, "a special advisor" waiting in the wings?

 

[Chinatown88]

Can I get in on this pay per post scheme? Clearly some of you folks are getting paid the big bucks to argue in circles.

 

[freakydallas13]

Other than Vancouver, Torts has had as long or longer tenure than Lavi at his stops:
TB: 7 seasons
NYR: 5 seasons
CBJ: 6 seasons

Lavi:
NYI: 2 years
CAR: 5 years
PHL: 4 years
Nash: 6 years
Wash: 3 years

So much for "wearing out his welcome."
The internet is out there, research is easy.

Now include Vancouver.

 

[Cody Webster]

Now include Vancouver.

Does t fit the narrative. Don't be so silly.

(Incoming 6 paragraphs about how Torts's time in Vancouver doesn't count)

 

[Flyerfan4life]

"the right way."

Keep throwing out those buzzwords, people.

the right way... aka 1970s grinder hockey...

 

[deadhead]

Now include Vancouver.

He wasn't there long enough to wear out his welcome.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Tulsky could and should have been looked at for the President of Hockey Operations position.

That’s the whole point. Looking for a PR dunce to fill that position is terrible process.

I am still trying to figure out why Tulsky would come to this dumpster fire. Going from the mansion to the outdoor outhouse is not optimal

 

[FLYguy3911]

I am still trying to figure out why Tulsky would come to this dumpster fire. Going from the mansion to the outdoor outhouse is not optimal

Money and power.

 

[Curufinwe]

A giant pay raise.

 

[Beef Invictus]

"the right way."

Keep throwing out those buzzwords, people.

The Flyers idea of "The Right Way" is the wrongest way there is

 

[Beef Invictus]

He wasn't there long enough to wear out his welcome.

Because he wore out his welcome in approximately 83 minutes.

The guy had the Sedin twins, which should be coaching easy mode, and he couldn't figure out what to do with them. He hasn't gotten smarter since then.

 

[Rebels57]

Because he wore out his welcome in approximately 83 minutes.

The guy had the Sedin twins, which should be coaching easy mode, and he couldn't figure out what to do with them. He hasn't gotten smarter since then.

Look at the Sedin twins numbers before and after their season with Torts (13-14) always makes me laugh lol

2012-2013 - The Pre-Torts Year
Daniel - 40 points in 47 games
Henrik - 45 points in 48 games

2013-2014 - THE TORTS YEAR
Daniel - 47 points in 73 games
Henrik - 50 points in 70 games

2014-2015 - The Post-Torts Year
Daniel - 76 points in 82 games
Henrick - 73 points in 82 games

Oh and there's also this gem - all from Torts one season in Vancouver lol

Former NHLer Ryan Kesler recalls the time he nearly fought John Tortorella

Kesler joined the Spittin' Chiclets podcast recently and detailed a wild exchange between him and the fiery coach during a 2014 practice.

sports.yahoo.com

 

[deadhead]

Look at the Sedin twins numbers before and after their season with Torts (13-14) always makes me laugh lol

2012-2013 - The Pre-Torts Year
Daniel - 40 points in 47 games
Henrik - 45 points in 48 games

2013-2014 - THE TORTS YEAR
Daniel - 47 points in 73 games
Henrik - 50 points in 70 games

2014-2015 - The Post-Torts Year
Daniel - 76 points in 82 games
Henrick - 73 points in 82 games

Oh and there's also this gem - all from Torts one season in Vancouver lol

Former NHLer Ryan Kesler recalls the time he nearly fought John Tortorella

Kesler joined the Spittin' Chiclets podcast recently and detailed a wild exchange between him and the fiery coach during a 2014 practice.

sports.yahoo.com

Read the whole article.
They bounced back the next season, lost in the 1st round, then went into a tailspin, % of possible points, .457, .421, .445, .494.

 

[dragonoffrost]

Read the whole article.
They bounced back the next season, lost in the 1st round, then went into a tailspin, % of possible points, .457, .421, .445, .494.

Yes a tailspin because Desjardins was a one time HC who was a disaster that benefited from the bounce of the first season without Torts then the team found out how overmatched Desjardins was.

 

[Columbus Hockey Dad]

Why does no one from our wonderful media ask for clarification on what the leadership group defines as "the right way?" Or ask Keith Jones, who is now in charge of creating the vision...what is your vision for this team. What does it entail? How do you and Danny plan on getting there? What is your focus? It's enfuriating.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Money and power.

Round hole, square peg. The Flyers don’t want to hear fresh ideas. They think the road they are on is fine.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Look at the Sedin twins numbers before and after their season with Torts (13-14) always makes me laugh lol

2012-2013 - The Pre-Torts Year
Daniel - 40 points in 47 games
Henrik - 45 points in 48 games

2013-2014 - THE TORTS YEAR
Daniel - 47 points in 73 games
Henrik - 50 points in 70 games

2014-2015 - The Post-Torts Year
Daniel - 76 points in 82 games
Henrick - 73 points in 82 games

Oh and there's also this gem - all from Torts one season in Vancouver lol

Former NHLer Ryan Kesler recalls the time he nearly fought John Tortorella

Kesler joined the Spittin' Chiclets podcast recently and detailed a wild exchange between him and the fiery coach during a 2014 practice.

sports.yahoo.com

"Everyone loves playing for him"

 

[Flyerfan4life]

Look at the Sedin twins numbers before and after their season with Torts (13-14) always makes me laugh lol

2012-2013 - The Pre-Torts Year
Daniel - 40 points in 47 games
Henrik - 45 points in 48 games

2013-2014 - THE TORTS YEAR
Daniel - 47 points in 73 games
Henrik - 50 points in 70 games

2014-2015 - The Post-Torts Year
Daniel - 76 points in 82 games
Henrick - 73 points in 82 games

Oh and there's also this gem - all from Torts one season in Vancouver lol

Former NHLer Ryan Kesler recalls the time he nearly fought John Tortorella

Kesler joined the Spittin' Chiclets podcast recently and detailed a wild exchange between him and the fiery coach during a 2014 practice.

sports.yahoo.com

that story is prolly fantasy if certain people would have you believe..

hahaa.

Why does no one from our wonderful media ask for clarification on what the leadership group defines as "the right way?" Or ask Keith Jones, who is now in charge of creating the vision...what is your vision for this team. What does it entail? How do you and Danny plan on getting there? What is your focus? It's enfuriating.

"how many meetings about roster involve the old bois ?"..

#crickets

 

[TheKingPin]

Why pay a goalie a substantial contract for a window where they're going to be terrible?

They should be trying to get assets for whatever they can at this point.

Let it burn.

I think the biggest thing is Hart raises the floor too much. If we run with a lesser goalie we could finish around 5th for a few years.

 

[Starat327]

I think the biggest thing is Hart raises the floor too much. If we run with a lesser goalie we could finish around 5th for a few years.

All we have to do for that is keep Tortorella around