Boston Bruins 2023-24 Roster and Salary Cap Discussion VII

[ON3M4N]

Very good, I am impressed but not a 8mil plus for 8 years for a aging player..........

Technically every player is aging....does that mean no one should get more money then they make now?

 

[Fenian24]

McCaron doesn't impress me a whole lot either, but he's on a cheap expiring contract. He'd fill the Lucic spot without having to make any other moves.

Carrick maybe? Not all that tough, more like a Greer replacement or a Hathaway but still tougher than Steen or Brown.

Carrick would because good add,, plays wing and center, physical and OK fighter. Can handle the middleweights and less, which is 90% of the league.

McCarron is big and decent fighter, I would take him but if they are dealing with Nashville I would try for Cole Smith first. Expiring contract, making league minimum.

 

[MillerTime29Bombs]

With Beech riding the pine tonight who sits when Potter comes back? Merck back to Prov?

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

Bottom line are you willing to pay him that kind of money for 8 years ?

No bottom line is your hilarious statement.

Jason Robertson is good for an average of 54 points a year.

5 seasons. 270 points.

That’s how that works?

I’m with ya in not wanting Lindholm for big money. I don’t believe him to be the #1 C we’d need him to be at that dollar amount.

But I don’t need to skew numbers that badly in order to make my argument. That was laughable.

 

[UncleRico]

Bottom line are you willing to pay him that kind of money for 8 years ?

No but I would offer a little more AAV over 6 years

 

[Hookslide]

Technically every player is aging....does that mean no one should get more money then they make now?

WTF,

No but I would offer a little more AAV over 6 years

I hope not, the Bruins fans have been screaming that team is to old and you want to take on someone other team aging player , for a lot of money even at 6 years what do you think AAV will be,

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

With Beech riding the pine tonight who sits when Potter comes back? Merck back to Prov?

Most likely.

 

[ON3M4N]

WTF,


I hope not, the Bruins fans have been screaming that team is to old and you want to take on someone other team aging player , for a lot of money even at 6 years what do you think AAV will be,

Its funny because if you looked at the roster, they have very few guys who they're committed to past this season who are over 30+ years old. Those 3 guys:

Marchand (35yr old) - UFA after next year
Coyle (31yrs old) - Signed for 3 more years
Ullmark (30yrs old) - UFA after next season

The other current 30+ year old players....

JVR - Pending UFA
Shattenkrik - Pending UFA
Lucic - Pending UFA

You've brought absolutely no points to this discussion about why Lindholm isn't a guy Boston should try and bring in.

Edit - Sorry let me take that back because you have made a point. You mentioned how he's not a 50pt player for his career......even through the math says he is.

 

[Bruin4]

With Beech riding the pine tonight who sits when Potter comes back? Merck back to Prov?

Going to be tough after he pots a couple tonight.

 

[dugg133]

With Beech riding the pine tonight who sits when Potter comes back? Merck back to Prov?

Yeah probably. Personally don't love that if it's what happens, thought Merkulov earned more then a 3-4 game cup of coffee with how good he was in Providence, but I guess there are only so many spots in the lineup.

 

[Hookslide]

Its funny because if you looked at the roster, they have very few guys who they're committed to past this season who are over 30+ years old. Those 3 guys:

Marchand (35yr old) - UFA after next year
Coyle (31yrs old) - Signed for 3 more years
Ullmark (30yrs old) - UFA after next season

The other current 30+ year old players....

JVR - Pending UFA
Shattenkrik - Pending UFA
Lucic - Pending UFA

You've brought absolutely no points to this discussion about why Lindholm isn't a guy Boston should try and bring in.

Edit - Sorry let me take that back because you have made a point. You mentioned how he's not a 50pt player for his career......even through the math says he is.

None of those players you mentioned make 8 mil a year, 3 of those players make 1 mil a year. How do justify mentioning 3 players signed for one year at a total of 3 mil is worse than signing Lindholm for 8years for 64 mil if not more. Ullmark is 30 and at the end of his contract he will be 31. I might add that I was in favor of moving Ullmark to get address another position, but at this time I would be reluctant to move him because they depend so much on their goaltenders. I don't believe Lindholm is the 1C that you try to make him out to be.

 

[ON3M4N]

None of those players you mentioned make 8 mil a year, 3 of those players make 1 mil a year. How do justify mentioning 3 players signed for one year at a total of 3 mil is worse than signing Lindholm for 8years for 64 mil if not more. Ullmark is 30 and at the end of his contract he will be 31. I might add that I was in favor of moving Ullmark to get address another position, but at this time I would be reluctant to move him because they depend so much on their goaltenders. I don't believe Lindholm is the 1C that you try to make him out to be.

What they make is irrelevant, nor did I attempt to justify that the 3 pending UFA's is worse then signing Lindholm. Its bad enough when you're making up facts (i.e. Lindholm's career production), but now you're making up arguments lol. Your comment was that Bruins fans were screaming that the team was old. The reality is, they really aren't that old when you factor in that 3 of their 4 oldest players are not even going to be on the team next year.

You're more than welcome to your opinion that Lindholm isn't a 1C. There is plenty of info out there that doesn't align with your opinion, but to each their own. At this juncture I think it best we go separate ways on this topic.

 

[Fenian24]

None of those players you mentioned make 8 mil a year, 3 of those players make 1 mil a year. How do justify mentioning 3 players signed for one year at a total of 3 mil is worse than signing Lindholm for 8years for 64 mil if not more. Ullmark is 30 and at the end of his contract he will be 31. I might add that I was in favor of moving Ullmark to get address another position, but at this time I would be reluctant to move him because they depend so much on their goaltenders. I don't believe Lindholm is the 1C that you try to make him out to be.

I don't think his salary will reflect whether he is a "true" number 1 center or not but his competition in UFA this summer will. Unless Steven Stamkos decides to move back to center Lindholm is far and away the best center option in free agency and the closest thing to a number 1 center available.

He is substantially better than Coyle or Zacha and should work well with Pastrnak. 8.8 million is going to be 10% of the cap and I think he will get that for 5 years minimum very easily. I also think the Bruins need to be the team to pay him that. If Poitras becomes a top.2 center you move Coyle to 3C and have a very good group of centers going forward for at least five years.

 

[BiteThisBurrows]

With Beech riding the pine tonight who sits when Potter comes back? Merck back to Prov?

Not sure there's much choice. They could send Steen back down I guess and have one of them play wing but sending him down is the easiest option.

 

[Patdud]

Its ok to question if Lindholm is as good as his 80pt season, but its silly to think hes as bad as he has been this year on a crap team. a line of Zacha-Lindholm-Pasta would certainly bring his underlying numbers up and put him back on pace for 60/70 pts.

 

[Hookslide]

No bottom line is your hilarious statement.

Jason Robertson is good for an average of 54 points a year.

5 seasons. 270 points.

That’s how that works?

I’m with ya in not wanting Lindholm for big money. I don’t believe him to be the #1 C we’d need him to be at that dollar amount.

But I don’t need to skew numbers that badly in order to make my argument. That was laughable.

I didn't play with the numbers, those were his stats, I took out the covid years and this season and he averaged 51 pts for a 8 year average. nice job you lose.

 

[dugg133]

So with Freddy playing so well right now, I wouldn't hate if they tried out an 11-18-88 top line. I haven't really love the look of Geekie up there tbh, I think it hurts the creativity of that line not to have Zacha at center. Freddy can do all the dirty work for that line and you know he holds up defensively, Geekie can slot at 3C where he's probably better suited to be.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

So with Freddy playing so well right now, I wouldn't hate if they tried out an 11-18-88 top line. I haven't really love the look of Geekie up there tbh, I think it hurts the creativity of that line not to have Zacha at center. Freddy can do all the dirty work for that line and you know he holds up defensively, Geekie can slot at 3C where he's probably better suited to be.

Or 3RW with Poitras at 3C? I'm skeptical of Frederic playing with those two, but I get the thinking.

 

[dugg133]

Or 3RW with Poitras at 3C? I'm skeptical of Frederic playing with those two, but I get the thinking.

I talked myself into it. I don't love Geekie up there, it takes away from the Pasta-Zacha 1-2 game having him in the middle. Debrusk and Marchand aren't options cause that 2nd line is playing so well. That leaves JVR, Heinen, Freddy, or Merk to try. And of those 4 guys Freddy is playing the best.

 

[Yeti34]

Too bad Merk didn’t get more time. He looked to be finding his groove after a slow start.

 

[Gee Wally]

With Canada eliminated from World Juniors, Matt Poitras is headed back to Bruins - The Boston Globe

The 19-year-old center went 2-2–4 in five tournament games, with Canada getting as far as the quarterfinals.

www.bostonglobe.com

COLUMBUS, Ohio — Canada’s run for a medal at the hockey World Junior Championship in Sweden ended abruptly in disappointment Tuesday, which means rookie Bruins center Matt Poitras is expected back in Boston Wednesday or Thursday.
Next question: How soon will he be back in the lineup?
“I think he gets back [Wednesday], and then he starts to assimilate back into the group,” Bruins coach Jim Montgomery said before his team’s 4-1 win over the Blue Jackets at Nationwide Arena Tuesday night. “How soon he plays again, that’s up for discussion, because it just happened.”
Montgomery met with reporters approximately one hour after Canada was rubbed out by Czechia, 3-2, in a quarterfinal in Gothenburg.

The Bruins, who are scheduled to practice Wednesday at Warrior Arena in Brighton, play their next two games at TD Garden, with the Penguins in town Thursday, followed by the Lightning Saturday.

The earliest return-to-play date for Poitras would be Thursday, but it would not be a surprise if the Bruins gave him a respite, allowing him to adjust to the time change and potential travel fatigue. Extra rest would allow him to recharge in full ahead of a four-game road trip that begins Monday night in Denver against the Avalanche.

 

[PB37]

So with Freddy playing so well right now, I wouldn't hate if they tried out an 11-18-88 top line. I haven't really love the look of Geekie up there tbh, I think it hurts the creativity of that line not to have Zacha at center. Freddy can do all the dirty work for that line and you know he holds up defensively, Geekie can slot at 3C where he's probably better suited to be.

I like the idea but I feel like they need to find a way to best utilize Freddy's shot and I think he'd be looking to defer to Pasta too much if he was playing with him.

 

[dugg133]

I like the idea but I feel like they need to find a way to best utilize Freddy's shot and I think he'd be looking to defer to Pasta too much if he was playing with him.

Even if he does defer, I don't think he'd end up shooting less often just by nature of being put in more offensive situations on the top line. Like Geekie's shots haven't really been effected by getting moved up.

 

[Dizzay]

I like Freddy at Center. I think he's perfect where he is for now, 3C.
I think Geekie is better suited for 4th line duties, either wings playing with Beecher.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

How do you think he is going to be better than what you already have seen from him when he does not even average over 50 pts a year in his career.

536 pts over 11 years

I didn't play with the numbers, those were his stats, I took out the covid years and this season and he averaged 51 pts for a 8 year average. nice job you lose.

So you stated something false. Then changed the numbers to something slightly more honest - which made your original statement wrong.

Wow, you really showed me.