Bogo was waived he cleared then he was traded to the wild for a 7th rounder.
Boston Bruins 2023-24 Roster and Salary Cap Discussion V
- Thread starter Mr. Make-Believe
- Start date
-
Xenforo Cloud will be upgrading us to version 2.3.5 on March 3rd at 12 AM GMT. This version has increased stability and fixes several bugs. We expect downtime for the duration of the update. The admin team will continue to work on existing issues, templates and upgrade all necessary available addons to minimize impact of this new version. Click Here for Updates
- Status
GatorMike
Registered User
he'll fit in nice there. I already despise that team and the way they play.
I Would have taken him, but it would have been really hard cheering for that guy.
Blowfish
Count down ...
Folk I'm taking a hiatus from posting..too much negative impacting my mental health. Enjoy the season.
Speed Shooter
Fly. Don't look, just fly.
Playing on a line without #37 and #63, DeBrusk is on pace for 32 pts over an 82 game season.
You think that output is deserving or worth 7x$6M? No thanks.
I personally think his best value would be what he could fetch at TDL as pending UFA — possibly a 1st from a desperate team - to help restock bare cupboard in a big way.
Barring a collapse that was as epic as this teams start was, they are not trading players for picks at the deadline. they'd have to be out of the playoff picture for that to happen.
And a week ago DeBrusk was on a pace for about 15 points. Two weeks from now he could easily be back on a pace for 50 points again. We are talking about a guy who scored 25 or more goals the last 2 years, and is now an very good 200 foot player, and excellent PK. guys like that are kind of rare in todays NHL, and they get paid. Even if he finishes this year with 15 goals, someone is gonna pay him because of the overall quality of his game and his proven scoring ability
Not pushing for it, but have the same gut feeling, you might add Frederics name to that also.
Toews is cooked, JVR is nothing Kane and Marchand could play on the same line and call it the "Hip Line " and maybe they can go on LTIR.
SwayHeyKid
Registered User
- Mar 14, 2022
- 1,976
- 2,258
While I think the lack of toughness thing is real and needs to be addressed, I still think this is a really good team...I think both can be true...they are going through a slump, it's happens, thankfully they have banked so many points
The don godfather
Registered User
UncleRico
Registered User
- May 8, 2017
- 9,544
- 12,542
What happened? Just this summer you were calling people idiots for saying anything below 7x7m on Debrusk
MarchysNoseKnows
Big Hat No Cattle
- Feb 14, 2018
- 10,307
- 20,848
Huh? I was asked if I would do 7x$6M and I said absolutely. What are you trying to stir up now Mr. Positivity?
UncleRico
Registered User
- May 8, 2017
- 9,544
- 12,542
Therick67
Registered User
I'd be thinking long and hard about giving that to DeBrusk.
Son of Donegal
Stay-at-home defenseman with zero upside.
I'd be calling for Sweeney to be fired immediately if that kind of contract was given to DeBrusk. At this point I'm not sure he's worth what he's being paid right now at $4mil let alone $7mil.
Dennis Bonvie
Registered User
So he's not worth the money, a 32 point player without Marchand & Bergeron, but he might bring a first round pick?
UncleRico
Registered User
- May 8, 2017
- 9,544
- 12,542
rocketdan9
Registered User
- Feb 5, 2009
- 20,415
- 13,211
Bruins could use Hertl and Zadarov right about now. How about...
Zacha Hertl Pasta
Marchand Coyle Zetterlund
Frederic Poitras Farinacci
Steen Beecher Lauko
Heinen
Lohrei McAvoy
Lindholm Carlo
Zadarov Mitchell
Ullmark
Bussi
Trade
To Flames: Debrusk
To Bruins: Zadarov and 2nd
To Sharks: Grz, Geekie, Swayman, Lysell, 1st
To Bruins: Hertl, Zetterlund, 2nd
* waive JVR
Trading Swayman would be a tough pill to swallow. But Bruins do have luxury at net and need a 1C real badly. Hertl is also locked up for the forseeable future.
Zacha Hertl Pasta
Marchand Coyle Zetterlund
Frederic Poitras Farinacci
Steen Beecher Lauko
Heinen
Lohrei McAvoy
Lindholm Carlo
Zadarov Mitchell
Ullmark
Bussi
Trade
To Flames: Debrusk
To Bruins: Zadarov and 2nd
To Sharks: Grz, Geekie, Swayman, Lysell, 1st
To Bruins: Hertl, Zetterlund, 2nd
* waive JVR
Trading Swayman would be a tough pill to swallow. But Bruins do have luxury at net and need a 1C real badly. Hertl is also locked up for the forseeable future.
Dennis Bonvie
Registered User
By trading JDB of course, who is not good enough for us to keep at his salary but good enough to fetch a first from someone
Or perhaps Gryz, who also sucks according to this board and can't play in the playoffs, but should bring a first as well.
I don't think Sweeney is gonna make any reactionary moves based on a 3 game skid. There is no incoming Debrusk trade or Frederic trade cause this team "needs a shake up". End of the day we're still tied for first in the league with a game in hand, with a good opportunity to right the ship at home against the worst team in the league on Thursday. The guys we have need to figure it out.
I do think the current lineup needs to be tweaked though. The bottom 6 in solid IMO, Beecher has been very consistent no matter who his wingers are and adding Geekie to that line seems to has seemed to add another offensive element to it. The Coyle line has been great for the most part, Coyle is tied for 2nd on the team in points despite having the most d zone starts of any forward, JVR has been a stable vet presence, and Freddy is on pace for like 20 goals rn. That line shouldn't be touched.
The top 6 is a different story though. The first line has been an issue. Idk what's up with Marchand but plays are just constantly dying on his stick, it feels like he's always trying to do too much. Need to separate him from Pasta while he figures his shit out, cause we just don't have enough firepower to have Pasta get weighed down like this. Maybe move Debrusk up for bit and try and get him going, put Marchand back with Poitras and let him work out his issues while getting some easier matchups.
Moving on from the offense, cause the defense has been even worse IMO. The only pair I'm confident in is Lindholm-Carlo. Gryz-McAvoy has not been as effective as it has been in years past, mostly cause Gryz isn't as effective this season as he has been in past regular seasons. And I think it's already clear that Forbort-Shattenkirk is not good enough to be the third pair come playoffs. Assuming we do end up adding at the deadline, defense might be the place I want them to spend big on.
I do think the current lineup needs to be tweaked though. The bottom 6 in solid IMO, Beecher has been very consistent no matter who his wingers are and adding Geekie to that line seems to has seemed to add another offensive element to it. The Coyle line has been great for the most part, Coyle is tied for 2nd on the team in points despite having the most d zone starts of any forward, JVR has been a stable vet presence, and Freddy is on pace for like 20 goals rn. That line shouldn't be touched.
The top 6 is a different story though. The first line has been an issue. Idk what's up with Marchand but plays are just constantly dying on his stick, it feels like he's always trying to do too much. Need to separate him from Pasta while he figures his shit out, cause we just don't have enough firepower to have Pasta get weighed down like this. Maybe move Debrusk up for bit and try and get him going, put Marchand back with Poitras and let him work out his issues while getting some easier matchups.
Moving on from the offense, cause the defense has been even worse IMO. The only pair I'm confident in is Lindholm-Carlo. Gryz-McAvoy has not been as effective as it has been in years past, mostly cause Gryz isn't as effective this season as he has been in past regular seasons. And I think it's already clear that Forbort-Shattenkirk is not good enough to be the third pair come playoffs. Assuming we do end up adding at the deadline, defense might be the place I want them to spend big on.
rocketdan9
Registered User
- Feb 5, 2009
- 20,415
- 13,211
Good with this. Didn't want him on the team. He is a shell of his former self.
Bruins need to actually make a difficult trade imo.... and try to obtain someone like Hertl, E. Lindholm
RussellmaniaKW
Registered User
- Sep 15, 2004
- 19,730
- 21,859
i sort of implied it in the post, but I went to hockey-reference, exported rosters from last year and this year to CSV, put them in google sheets, trimmed them down to their actual 20-man lineups using old GDTs and ran an average function on the age column. Much more relevant than whatever LWL is doing which probably includes extra players that are not really pertinent to this discussion. It's honestly more effort than you deserve, but you make these types of claims with such smugness that it's hard to resist correcting you.
You're welcome to do the same if you really wanted to check my work, but I cannot stress enough that you are overthinking this and it should be obvious under even the most basic scrutiny that they didn't get older.
They lost their 3 oldest players in Bergeron, Krejci & Foligno. The 3 veterans they signed to be regulars (JVR, Shattenkirk and Lucic) are younger than all 3 of them so they got younger even on the top end. When you consider the rest of the lineup is filled out with new guys like Poitras (19!), Beecher, Lauko, Geekie, Mitchell/Lohrei it should be plainly obvious that any source claiming their average age went up should be questioned.
But honestly, this is what's frustrating about debating anything with you. You start with a premise (in this case: "Sweeney lied about wanting to get younger") and then look for something, anything to prove your point (in this case a number you pulled from 1 website with minimal scrutiny) and then you cling to that one data point like it's gospel instead of just considering for a moment that your premise might be flawed.
- Status
