Boston Bruins 2023-24 Roster and Salary Cap Discussion IX

[Jorah Marshmont]

As presently constituted, yes.

They'll probably lose tomorrow, btw.

Again, "A fish rots from the head."

Teams reflect their coach, their management, and their ownership.

Do the math.

That’s the thing though, it’s not management or coaching. Two different coaches, Sweeneely has consistently tried to bring in physicality including the toughest SOB left in the league (Looch). If the jacobs were to blame Sweeney wouldn’t even bother trying to bring in toughness.
I just don’t see an easy answer to why they collectively play so soft. I don’t get it.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

No one is pining for anything. One poster made a ridiculous comment that it’s the same management as the Stanley cup year. Which it isn’t.

Chiarelli was much better at identifying various skill sets to get his teams over the hump where Sweeney has yet to be able to do that and is pretty much just an analytical darling who brings in puck possession monsters but generally soft teams that get pushed around.

Is that when he gave Chris Kelly a ridiculous deal with a NTC or when he traded Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson? Can never remember.

 

[GordonHowe]

It's the same management and ownership that won in 11.

The coach was a part of an amazing team last year. His players from the Stars raved about him.

Its hard taking these takes of yours seriously when you're on record of saying you won't be happy if this team wins the Cup because you don't like their style of play.

Show me the record. If I wrote that, I will own up to it. I don't believe I've ever said that.

 

[UncleRico]

That’s the thing though, it’s not management or coaching. Two different coaches, Sweeneely has consistently tried to bring in physicality including the toughest SOB left in the league (Looch). If the jacobs were to blame Sweeney wouldn’t even bother trying to bring in toughness.
I just don’t see an easy answer to why they collectively play so soft. I don’t get it.

The big difference is Sweeney has tried filling out the roster with a bunch of bums at the end of their career who are tough.

Chiarelli targeted those guys in his top 6 with prime lucic and horton. Guys who set the tone much like what florida did with tkachuk.

 

[dugg133]

Middleton

Personally don't see him as a guy that should be on the top pair of a contender, but I like the player

 

[UncleRico]

Is that when he gave Chris Kelly a ridiculous deal with a NTC or when he traded Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson? Can never remember.

Chiarelli is the guy who assembled the team who won the cup.

Not the guy who went all-in spending two years of draft capital and $4.5m in future cap on a first round exit team.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Chiarelli is the guy who assembled the team who won the cup.

Not the guy who went all-in spending two years of draft capital and $4.5m in future cap on a first round exit team.

Right. But not pining for Chiarelli right?

 

[UncleRico]

Right. But not pining for Chiarelli right?

The only person pining for anything is you pining for attention with these lame comments that have nothing to do with the discussion.

 

[GordonHowe]

That’s the thing though, it’s not management or coaching. Two different coaches, Sweeneely has consistently tried to bring in physicality including the toughest SOB left in the league (Looch). If the jacobs were to blame Sweeney wouldn’t even bother trying to bring in toughness.
I just don’t see an easy answer to why they collectively play so soft. I don’t get it.

To me, it is about management first and foremost.

Who else constructs the team? Mr Nobody?

Sweeney has constructed these teams, and you see the result. If the players lack physicality, that is not their fault. That's not who they are.

And one guy, even Milan Lucic, is not going to make an entire team difficult to play against, or a physically intimidating club.

It doesn't work that way.

 

[NeelyDan]

Is that when he gave Chris Kelly a ridiculous deal with a NTC or when he traded Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson? Can never remember.

I get what you’re doing here but the larsson example isn’t a good one, at the time despite eyebrows being raised larsson was considered a prime D on his potential way up and the oil, well, the oil had D needs even back then

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I get what you’re doing here but the larsson example isn’t a good one, at the time despite eyebrows being raised larsson was considered a prime D on his potential way up and the oil, well, the oil had D needs even back then

Dude the deal was absolutely killed as soon as it was announced. The memes started right away and memes weren’t really even a big thing then.

The trade is one for one…

 

[UncleRico]

I get what you’re doing here but the larsson example isn’t a good one, at the time despite eyebrows being raised larsson was considered a prime D on his potential way up and the oil, well, the oil had D needs even back then

Ya but he doesn’t want to talk about how due to Sweeney’s terrible cap management and going all in on a first round exit team, Sweeney traded that same player for almost nothing.

Or how Sweeney gave even worse deals to guys like backes and foligno.

 

[GordonHowe]

On the question of toughness on the ice, does Lucic come back?

Not proposing it, nor dismissing it. Just saying it’s a question, the answer to which may impact things.

Neely and Sweeney must have some sense of whether it is a possibility, even. If it is, then there is less pressure (not no pressure, but certainly less) to make a move(s) in that regard for the playoffs.

It’s been deadly silent, but again Neely and Sweeney have a better sense than us.

Will be interesting to see.

I'm a fan of Milan. What he did cannot be excused. I would like him back with the Bruins, but I doubt that will happen.

The case is going to trial, which, counterintuitively, I believe is a good thing. For himself, his wife, his children, and his family. Better not to sweep it under the rug, which is usually the case in sports.

I don't believe Neely or Sweeney are bad actors in this sense, but a public trial is not a good look for the Boston Bruins.

Hence, I suspect they will cut ties with Milan.

The whole thing is very sad, all the way around.

 

[UncleRico]

Dude the deal was absolutely killed as soon as it was announced. The memes started right away and memes weren’t really even a big thing then.

The trade is one for one…

What did Sweeney get for Taylor Hall, it must have certainly been better than Adam Larsson. Can’t remember though.

 

[NeelyDan]

Dude the deal was absolutely killed as soon as it was announced. The memes started right away and memes weren’t really even a big thing then.

The trade is one for one…

That deal could have gone a whole other direction is all I’m saying

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

What did Sweeney get for Taylor Hall, it must have certainly been better than Adam Larsson. Can’t remember though.

Right. Good analog. Very on brand.

That deal could have gone a whole other direction is all I’m saying

I mean it could have? I guess. But I’m not talking about it retroactively. It was killed as soon as it happened.

 

[NeelyDan]

Right. Good analog. Very on brand.


I mean it could have? I guess. But I’m not talking about it retroactively. It was killed as soon as it happened.

It probably shouldn’t have been. He was 4th overall and 5 years into his pro career - prime time. He’s an assistant captain now, so he did have something.

 

[UncleRico]

Right. Good analog. Very on brand.


I mean it could have? I guess. But I’m not talking about it retroactively. It was killed as soon as it happened.

You can’t possibly think Sweeney is a better GM than chiarelli.. do you?

 

[GordonHowe]

What did Sweeney get for Taylor Hall, it must have certainly been better than Adam Larsson. Can’t remember though.

Mitchell and Regula.

It was a cap dump. For a great player who accepted third line duty without complaint, and wanted to come to the Boston Bruins.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

You can’t possibly think Sweeney is a better GM than chiarelli.. do you?

Cup versus no Cup right? All that matters? I don’t need to have this argument again.

 

[UncleRico]

Cup versus no Cup right? All that matters? I don’t need to have this argument again.

So safe to say you think Sweeney is better?

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

So safe to say you think Sweeney is better?

Yes - I share that opinion with almost every rational hockey fan across the NHL.

 

[UncleRico]

Yes - I share that opinion with almost every rational hockey fan across the NHL.

You must be confused by the definition of rational

 

[Over the volcano]

Who called the Boqvist, Heinen, Steen 4th line this summer?

 

[Ozzy Osbourne]

“They were extremely physical after the whistle tonight and, yeah, I don’t think we tried to match that enough,” said defenseman Charlie McAvoy

This is a problem. It’s not about matching what your opponent is doing, its about playing with pride, standing up for eachother, and protecting your effing goalie. You need to do that regardless of the opponent.
Where the hell did this mindset come from?

How about Mcavoy stepping up in that department himself? His gloves seems to be a permanent part of his hands.