Prospect Info: 2023-24 prospect information - BUT WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PLAY?!

[CandyCanes]

Beautiful pass

 

[chaz4hockey]

@Joe McGrath @Gocanes0506 (didn't quote your posts) re: Samsonov

I remember reading this summer where he said he won't be returning to Carolina, so the is no longer with the Canes

EDIT: A quick google search came up with this.

Russian coach left the “Carolina” after eight years of work - 247 News Agency

Russian coach Sergei Samsonov left the NHL club "Carolina" after eight yearsRussian coach Sergei Samsonov has left the National Hockey League (NHL) Carolina Hurricanes after eight years on the job. It is reported by TASS.“I won’t be at Carolina next season. In the near future I will decide what I…

247newsagency.com

Surprising given all the Ru players that Canes have drafted recently.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Beautiful pass

there's not a single thing that Nikishin doesn't do incredibly well. Seriously

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

there's not a single thing that Nikishin doesn't do incredibly well. Seriously

He looked terrible in a fight recently but that’s fine with me. Don’t want him fighting, anyway.

 

[bleedgreen]

there's not a single thing that Nikishin doesn't do incredibly well. Seriously

But can he make a good quiche? Is he any good with carburetors? Do we have another warrior poet here?!?

 

[Stickpucker]

Has anyone been keeping an eye on Suzuki?

I think he's being overlooked.

 

[CandyCanes]

Has anyone been keeping an eye on Suzuki?

I think he's being overlooked.

He’s having a down year in the AHL, tho not in the Canes system. He’s often injured. He’s 22. So he’s fallen for me. But maybe in the top 10.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Has anyone been keeping an eye on Suzuki?

I think he's being overlooked.

I don’t think he will ever get a run in a Canes uniform. Plus, Increasingly less likely as other Canes younger players mature.

Suzuki will probably need to join another team to get to the NHL (and hopefully stay healthy).

 

[WreckingCrew]

Has anyone been keeping an eye on Suzuki?

I think he's being overlooked.

He looked great in camp and preseason to the point many wanted to give him a few game stint... unfortunately the kid just can't catch a break and stay healthy, 134 GP over the past 4 seasons (<50%)

 

[The Jerk Store]

Has anyone been keeping an eye on Suzuki?

I think he's being overlooked.

Lol. Terrible.

 

[MrKriben]

Nyström with another 1+1 game this saturday

 

[jake1]

I've seen most of Blake's games. On the downside he can be a turnover machine, although he's getting better at not doing it in a bad spot. He also can be a misadventure in his own zone. I know these are bad things. On the other hand, he is off-the-charts brilliant offensively. He has more deception in his game than all but a handful. Given his size, I don't think he's ready for the NHL, so I'm not sure he signs this year.

 

[cptjeff]

there's not a single thing that Nikishin doesn't do incredibly well. Seriously

Heh, didn't realize Nikishin was playing with Tolchinsky. Always did like that kid, glad he's having a strong career in the KHL.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Heh, didn't realize Nikishin was playing with Tolchinsky. Always did like that kid, glad he's having a strong career in the KHL.

They also have canes legends Zykov and Galchenyuk.

 

[WreckingCrew]

They also have canes legends Zykov and Galchenyuk.

Just missing Boychuk?

 

[cptjeff]

Just missing Boychuk?

Need a Chris Terry as well.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Just missing Boychuk?

The crypto king?

Need a Chris Terry as well.

He’s too busy missing the playoffs with the wolves.

 

[poobags]

Need a Chris Terry as well.

Chris Terry is too busy in Chicago mentoring Pono

 

[Chrispy]

Need a Chris Terry as well.

And more JerOME SamsON.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Wheeler started his pipeline ratings again. Got kicked off with the Isles at 32. We should see boston, tb, pitt, vegas, edm, etc all over the next week.

We were 14 post draft. Im expecting a slightly better position this time.

1. None of our guys that are highly rated fall off (Jarvis, nikishin, morrow, etc).
2. While gunler (5th) should fall to the bottom of the list, Nadeau, pono, FUS and a couple of others should have their overall ranking improve. Jarvis’ likely looks slightly better too with his production so far.
3. It’s likely that a team ahead of us sees a small drop.

We are 11 teams in and 8 of the teams are eastern conference foes, including the Debils who dropped to 22.

5 Atlantic teams: Boston, TB, Florida, Ottawa and Toronto in the bottom 11
3 Metro: NYI, Pittsburgh, and NJ

3 western teams: Vegas, Edmonton, and Colorado.

Rangers and Washington should be in the next 5.

We could win the war of attrition.

 

[Discipline Daddy]

We are 11 teams in and 8 of the teams are eastern conference foes, including the Debils who dropped to 22.

5 Atlantic teams: Boston, TB, Florida, Ottawa and Toronto in the bottom 11
3 Metro: NYI, Pittsburgh, and NJ

3 western teams: Vegas, Edmonton, and Colorado.

Rangers and Washington should be in the next 5.

We could win the war of attrition.

It is kinda wild that the Metro division has some great young players but shit for prospects outside the NHL. CBJ is good, and us and Philly are decent, and the other teams basically don't have a farm at all.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

It is kinda wild that the Metro division has some great young players but shit for prospects outside the NHL. CBJ is good, and us and Philly are decent, and the other teams basically don't have a farm at all.

NJ has used up theres so its a little expected. There’s would be higher if their guys weren’t playing already.

NYIs haven’t been good drafters and been a fray playoff team for a while.

Washington and Pittsburgh have had their days in the sun blowing draft capital.

Philly had their previous GM who blew draft capital and such at drafting.

Rangers have their picks and have made some big trades too. Their drafting has only been okay.

Columbus just sucks all around.

Not too surprising that’s how our division has gone. Outside of Columbus, everyone is where they should be based on moves / promotions

 

[chaz4hockey]

Wheeler started his pipeline ratings again. Got kicked off with the Isles at 32. We should see boston, tb, pitt, vegas, edm, etc all over the next week.

We were 14 post draft. Im expecting a slightly better position this time.

1. None of our guys that are highly rated fall off (Jarvis, nikishin, morrow, etc).
2. While gunler (5th) should fall to the bottom of the list, Nadeau, pono, FUS and a couple of others should have their overall ranking improve. Jarvis’ likely looks slightly better too with his production so far.
3. It’s likely that a team ahead of us sees a small drop.

I think Jarvis will not count:

Criteria​

To be eligible for inclusion, a skater must:

1. Be under 23 years old. We know that by the time a player turns 23, he is largely done with the steep upward progression we see in prospects and will begin to plateau.
2. Not be a full-time NHL player. This is the arbitrary section of the criteria. Here, I trust my judgment for whether or not a rostered NHL player is still likely to bounce between levels more than I trust any pre-determined games played cutoff. Preference for inclusion as an NHL prospect is more likely to be given to teenagers than 22-year-olds.
3. Either be signed to an NHL contract or selected in the entry draft, without the expiration of either of those rights. Players who are signed to AHL contracts are not considered.

Canes at #12 in this list:

The NHL’s Best Farm Systems Ranked - 2024-25 Preseason Update - The Hockey Writers Latest News, Analysis & More

Just like the NHL clubs, their prospect pools are all at different stages. This piece will take a look at every NHL farm system ranking.

thehockeywriters.com

 

[Chrispy]

NJ has used up theres so its a little expected. There’s would be higher if their guys weren’t playing already.

NYIs haven’t been good drafters and been a fray playoff team for a while.

Washington and Pittsburgh have had their days in the sun blowing draft capital.

Philly had their previous GM who blew draft capital and such at drafting.

Rangers have their picks and have made some big trades too. Their drafting has only been okay.

Columbus just sucks all around.

Not too surprising that’s how our division has gone. Outside of Columbus, everyone is where they should be based on moves / promotions

this. Jersey accelerated many of their prospects to develop them in the NHL. So I feel like they have a good young core but that would hurt prospect rankings. Less of an issue with a good young core though.

And Lou has made many deadline deals with 1sts to then sign the rental long term. It makes sense if the Isles feel like they are disadvantaged as a UFA destination but it is preventing the farm from developing top end talent.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I think Jarvis will not count:

Criteria​

To be eligible for inclusion, a skater must:

1. Be under 23 years old. We know that by the time a player turns 23, he is largely done with the steep upward progression we see in prospects and will begin to plateau.
2. Not be a full-time NHL player. This is the arbitrary section of the criteria. Here, I trust my judgment for whether or not a rostered NHL player is still likely to bounce between levels more than I trust any pre-determined games played cutoff. Preference for inclusion as an NHL prospect is more likely to be given to teenagers than 22-year-olds.
3. Either be signed to an NHL contract or selected in the entry draft, without the expiration of either of those rights. Players who are signed to AHL contracts are not considered.

Canes at #12 in this list:

The NHL’s Best Farm Systems Ranked - 2024-25 Preseason Update - The Hockey Writers Latest News, Analysis & More

Just like the NHL clubs, their prospect pools are all at different stages. This piece will take a look at every NHL farm system ranking.

thehockeywriters.com

That was pointed out before. My only question is why were Laf and Kakko included in the August rankings for NYR? I don’t think its a foregone conclusion that he won’t be, wheeler seems to use this criteria when he wants to