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And I’m now learning you can play NCAA sports as a 17 year old.
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And I’m now learning you can play NCAA sports as a 17 year old.
raynman
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cptjeff
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Toews did as well, IIRC. The average NCAA player is asked to defer their admission a year so they can get another year in of juniors and get a little older, so the typical freshman player is 19 or even 20, but when you're good enough, they'll put you in as soon as the school is willing to admit you.
We might have to seriously consider signing his brother as well (was an undrafted player if I remember correctly) as those two have some great chemistry together...pumping up both their stats on Maine's most productive line.
You also can factor in that Maine's offensive cast is way less talented than Boston College or Boston University, where the others play. In any event, our 2023 draft is looking stellar so far, much better than 2022 is looking (at least Simon Forsmark has good stats).
bleedgreen
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Well around the time of the civil war I ran cross country at a D3 school as a freshman and I didn’t turn 18 until 12/22 of that year, the day I went home from finals. I don’t think 18 has ever been a thing with the NCAA’s. I don’t know if the D1 vs D3 thing would matter but I would be surprised if it did.
If you watch his junior highlight package of the year that got him drafted combined with his play at Maine so far it’s not hard to wonder how he’s going to do without his brother. I also agree we’d be almost dumb not to try to sign him. They are pretty much equal players at these levels, Bradley is the shooter but his brother sets the table all day.
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DaveG
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been the case for a while. Most of the time the 17 YOs on campus for sports are the rising freshmen for football that sign in the early signing period now, but you occasionally have the freak of nature that's good enough before 18 to make a go of things. For instance I was trying out as a walk-on for soccer at WVU before I turned 18. Couldn't make it fit with my schedule for my major and my knees were majorly toast at that point but the coach had interest in bringing me in if I could make it work.
LakeLivin
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Hanifin and Zach Werenski both graduated high school a year early and entered college at 17. On top of that, they had freakishly similar profiles including size, U.S. N.T. development program, on-ice stats, etc. So much so that at draft time I thought the if the Canes could trade down from the 5oa spot and draft Werenski a few spots later and they'd stand a good chance of getting essentially the same d-man plus a bonus for trading down. Unfortunately, Ron Francis refused to take my call.
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Just a matter of time until Pono is in the big leagues. ppg for Chicago this year so far.
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It's hard to read too much into many of the high potential Russians we've taken the past several years, '22 included. They just have such a different developmental path there that usually takes quite a bit longer. I have a feeling we'll see at least 1 or 2 of them explode onto the scene within the next 5-6 years. Nikishin's development has been a HUGE outlier in terms of Russian prospects' timelines.
you're either not from north carolina, not a college basketball fan, or too damn young
brad daugherty showed up to unc as a 16 year old. (i don't remember if he played a game before his birthday)
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Hard to take much from the umass as they are 7-2 after 2 periods but morrow has scored a goal and has an assist as well
Nikishin Go Boom
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Umass beat alaska ankorage 11-2. Morrow 1G, 2As
Wisconsin beat penn st, Lucius with a secondary assist.
Und lost to Colorado College 3-2 in Ot. No scoring for canes prospects.
Maine plays Saturday. They played Wednesday and Nadeau got another assist on a goal by his brother
Wisconsin beat penn st, Lucius with a secondary assist.
Und lost to Colorado College 3-2 in Ot. No scoring for canes prospects.
Maine plays Saturday. They played Wednesday and Nadeau got another assist on a goal by his brother
Nikishin Go Boom
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i missed this but it was a recall so that they could assign him to a new ECHL team. paper formality.
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So the hottest prospects we have playing in top professional leagues:
Nikishin (no surprise)
Koivunen (starting to really drive play in the Liiga)
Forsmark (his SHL deal runs out after next season)
Nystrom (i wonder if we see him after the SHL season and signed to a contract)
Pono
Hot in a minor league system
Rykov
Morrow
Blake
Nadeau
Robidas
Lucius
Khazheyev
Nikishin (no surprise)
Koivunen (starting to really drive play in the Liiga)
Forsmark (his SHL deal runs out after next season)
Nystrom (i wonder if we see him after the SHL season and signed to a contract)
Pono
Hot in a minor league system
Rykov
Morrow
Blake
Nadeau
Robidas
Lucius
Khazheyev
What is your definition of "hottest"? Personally, I can't think of a single prospect that does anything for me.
Nikishin Go Boom
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scoring and playing well.
forsmark and nystrom should start to get more love in the future prospect ratings from the experts.
None of these guys moves the needle for you?
Nikishin
Koivunen
Forsmark
Nystrom
Pono
Morrow
Nadeau
Nope. I mean, I guess a couple of them are good looking for a guy, but that doesn't really do it for me.
raynman
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You may need therapy and a prescription from @Boom Boom Apathy
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Nikishin is the only one that really has me excited, even though I know there's still a possibility he doesn't come over / pan out. Still, what he's doing at his age in the KHL is pretty impressive.
Good thing about younger players is that they can improve. I’m optimistic that a few of these will hit (along with Unger-Sorum) and rest could be used for trade bait
Re. Nikishin-
Physicality is important too. Will perhaps stop some of the head hunting we see.
bleedgreen
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I know you’re already getting a bit of a hard time on this list, but I will say I appreciate you making the effort before I say anything.
What makes you say Koivunen is driving play in Liga? His raw stats? Underlying analytics? Anecdotal? Just curious.
Are NCAA’s generally considered a minor league system? I’ve never heard of that if that’s the case. Is there a precedent for referring to it that way in other sports? I’m pretty clueless in other sports.
I’ll echo our list doesn’t do a ton for me either. The only sure shot to play the level imo is Nikishin and it’s iffy we ever see him. I like that Nadeau is clearly a dangerous offensive player at the levels he’s played at. Robidas is in the echl. Cant take much from that. After Nikishin we have a lot of B to C level prospects and I’m curious to what the scouting community says about anyone I’d call a B. They might not agree. I wouldn’t be surprised if the pro’s would say we have a ton of C’s.
We’ve got volume. Which checks out based on our drafting approach. We don’t have room for them all, and many seem to be player types that may have a rough road with the coach. Yet we don’t make trades with them very often. You’d think that’ll change at some point with the efforts to make bigger trades we’ve been involved in.
I’ve been high on Pono as a bottom six for awhile, I’m still there. Same with Rees. Robidas and Blake have similar expectations though if we have all four of them that would be a very small bottom six.
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