Prospect Info: 2023-24 prospect information - BUT WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PLAY?!

[bleedgreen]

Couldn’t help but see Ian White plays with Norfolk?

 

[DaveG]

Couldn’t help but see Ian White plays with Norfolk?

THAT Ian White? Isn't he like 40 now or close to it?

 

[A Star is Burns]

Couldn’t help but see Ian White plays with Norfolk?

You should have tried harder.

My dude has apparently played for teams called the Columbus River Dragons and the Motor City Rockers of something called the FPHL in recent years. And might possibly play at some point for another called the Baton Rouge Zydeco.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

THAT Ian White? Isn't he like 40 now or close to it?

39. They have a 37 year old LW too, Matheiu Roy

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

While Ian didn't endear himself to any fans here in Carolina, if you haven't read / watched his story, I suggest you do. He basically got addicted to pain killers after an injury, became a drug addict for many years and he totally ruined his life. He lost everything including his wife, kids, home, cars, and all his money.

I'm assuming that he's now recovered, but who knows.

 

[bleedgreen]

My dude has apparently played for teams called the Columbus River Dragons and the Motor City Rockers of something called the FPHL in recent years. And might possibly play at some point for another called the Baton Rouge Zydeco.

I mean if you can keep getting paid to go to the ball park why not. Though they may be paying him in concession stand vouchers at that level.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Lucius scored twice as number 14 Wisconsin beats number 1 Minnesota 5-2.

No. 14 Wisconsin knocks off No. 1 Minnesota | Wisconsin Badgers

Mathieu De St. Phalle and Cruz Lucius' four combined goals helped lead the No. 14 Wisconsin men's hockey team to a 5-2 upset victory over No. 1 Minnesota in Minneapolis

uwbadgers.com

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Wisconsin won 3-2 over #1 Minnesota. Lucius with an assist.

UND beat Minnesota st 6-2. Blake with 2Gs and 1A. Perron with a G.

UMASS lost 5-2. Morrow and Mercuri with an assist.

Maine wins 2-1 in OT vs Quinnipiac. Nadeau doesn’t have a point.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

UND and Umass lost in a shootout today. Maine lost 4-1 to Quinnipiac.

Morrow, with an assist, was the only Canes prospect to get on the scoresheet. Although Blake had 10 shots for UND.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Friday, Norfolk lost 4-1. Perets stopped 33 of 37. Fensmore had an assist.

They play again today at 3.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Pyotr got a 19 save shutout yesterday.

As a side note: the wolves are 1-3-2 so far this season. Last place in the division

 

[cptjeff]

I mean if you can keep getting paid to go to the ball park why not. Though they may be paying him in concession stand vouchers at that level.

Apparently the ECHL salary CAP is $14,870 per week. For the whole team. The better players get the princely sum of $1,000 a week.

Gotta respect NHLers who keep playing at that level, because they're sure as f*** not doing it for the money. That'll pull you ~$24k a year.

For that matter, how the hell are we putting AHL level guys down there at that cap range? Do we have some special waiver?

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Pyotr got a 19 save shutout yesterday.

As a side note: the wolves are 1-3-2 so far this season. Last place in the division

I feel like the situation is going to go one of two possible ways: one, the Wolves go crying back to mommy while sucking their thumbs, or Carolina gets awarded the 33rd franchise and the Wolves get cut out completely. Either way, the Canes are in a superior position.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I feel like the situation is going to go one of two possible ways: one, the Wolves go crying back to mommy while sucking their thumbs, or Carolina gets awarded the 33rd franchise and the Wolves get cut out completely. Either way, the Canes are in a superior position.

I don’t think their model is in anyway sustainable. The better AHL players aren’t likely to choose them as there isn’t a chance to get a call up

 

[Chrispy]

I feel like the situation is going to go one of two possible ways: one, the Wolves go crying back to mommy while sucking their thumbs, or Carolina gets awarded the 33rd franchise and the Wolves get cut out completely. Either way, the Canes are in a superior position.

The AHL already denied Carolina’s request for franchise 33. I doubt they change their mind.

Even if Carolina finds a franchise to buy, someone is either going to need to affiliate with Chicago or this weird uneven situation continues.

I think the most likely outcome is Carolina buys a AHL franchise and someone else reluctantly affiliates with the Wolves next season.

 

[WreckingCrew]

Apparently the ECHL salary CAP is $14,870 per week. For the whole team. The better players get the princely sum of $1,000 a week.

Gotta respect NHLers who keep playing at that level, because they're sure as f*** not doing it for the money. That'll pull you ~$24k a year.

For that matter, how the hell are we putting AHL level guys down there at that cap range? Do we have some special waiver?

Those players contracts from the AHL & NHL are paid by the higher affiliate doing the loan and are not part of that cap...only players strictly under ECHL contracts apply to that I believe. And while the players aren't paid exceptionally well on contract, I do believe they get their housing, food etc paid for by stipend (trying to remember back to Checkers ECHL days). Definitely not paid a lot but there's other benefits as well, that said many of them had or were working towards other careers. I seem to remember Steve MacIntyre was working towards becoming a kindergarten teacher or something after he left the Checkers (before he got that NHL contract during the last "enforcer" years)

 

[DaveG]

The AHL already denied Carolina’s request for franchise 33. I doubt they change their mind.

Even if Carolina finds a franchise to buy, someone is either going to need to affiliate with Chicago or this weird uneven situation continues.

I think the most likely outcome is Carolina buys a AHL franchise and someone else reluctantly affiliates with the Wolves next season.

Mind you that's also the best case situation for us. Though I wouldn't mind us buying a team and allowing another team to send a few prospects and see the Wolves fanbase absolutely f***ing tank as a result of last place finish after last place finish for a few years.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

The AHL already denied Carolina’s request for franchise 33. I doubt they change their mind.

Even if Carolina finds a franchise to buy, someone is either going to need to affiliate with Chicago or this weird uneven situation continues.

I think the most likely outcome is Carolina buys a AHL franchise and someone else reluctantly affiliates with the Wolves next season.

I know that they did, but remember. Money talks. There's also the side benefit here of the Wolves, whose management has been a thorn in the side of the league for years now, being taught a lesson.

 

[Chrispy]

I know that they did, but remember. Money talks. There's also the side benefit here of the Wolves, whose management has been a thorn in the side of the league for years now, being taught a lesson.

I agree about the Wolves. But I think it's more likely they give Chicago an ultimatum of "affiliate or we kick you out and let Carolina expand to 32" than change their mind and expand to 33.

 

[WreckingCrew]

Is there any precedence for revoking an AHL franchise? I think the AHL would first have to pass a rule REQUIRING an affiliation before they could consider doing anything, otherwise they could probably be sued for any number of things (payment of existing contracts, leases, sponsorship refunds, etc)

 

[DaveG]

Is there any precedence for revoking an AHL franchise? I think the AHL would first have to pass a rule REQUIRING an affiliation before they could consider doing anything, otherwise they could probably be sued for any number of things (payment of existing contracts, leases, sponsorship refunds, etc)

The Norfolk Admirals attempted to make a go of it as an independent. The league said "hell no" so the Admirals sold their franchise to the Ducks.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Prospects Update: October | Carolina Hurricanes

Taking a look at Carolina's draft picks around the world and the starts to their seasons

www.nhl.com

 

[WreckingCrew]

Prospects Update: October | Carolina Hurricanes

Taking a look at Carolina's draft picks around the world and the starts to their seasons

www.nhl.com

RE: Nadeau - what I'm getting from that is he had 2G-1A in his first game, 1A in his second game, and 0 points since then. He's rapidly regressing...KILL HIM NOW

 

[Stickpucker]

The Norfolk Admirals attempted to make a go of it as an independent. The league said "hell no" so the Admirals sold their franchise to the Ducks.

What would make the AHL tell the Admirals they couldn't be independent but it was okay for the Wolves?

 

[FlyingSquirrels]

What would make the AHL tell the Admirals they couldn't be independent but it was okay for the Wolves?

Great question. Interested to hear an informed answer. I don't get it either!