Prospect Info: 2023-24 Prospect Info (CHL, NCAA, Europe)

[Metallo]

He talks like 3x a year, using the opportunity to ask the GM actual questions is welcome and what happens in other markets.

Yeah, I completely discounted the lack of media availability of the Avs front office.

 

[BaconNater]

College hockey playoffs coming up, always exciting to watch that.

Any UFA's that would be of interest? Not that the Avs really dabble in that market, seemed to get lucky that Meyers chose them. Curious about Blake Pietila who is a goalie for Michigan Tech, not very big but has carried that team all season

 

[Metallo]

Fun fact of the day: Jayson Megna never scored a goal for the Avs.

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

Notre Dame's season ended yesterday with the loss to Michigan State in the Big 10 tournament.

Any word on whether the Avalanche sign Nick Leivermann?

 

[Cousin Eddie]

Notre Dame's season ended yesterday with the loss to Michigan State in the Big 10 tournament.

Any word on whether the Avalanche sign Nick Leivermann?

That guy is still in college? He’s legit Van Wilder.

 

[henchman21]

That guy is still in college? He’s legit Van Wilder.

(I'd be shocked if Leivermann signed with the Avs)

 

[S E P H]

I thought the reason Leivermann went back for this Senior+1 year was that he didn't get any good offers out there. That doesn't mean that Avs didn't want him, but were probably trying to offer him an AHL deal in which he would play the majority of the season in the ECHL where he thinks he's worth an ELC at minimum.

 

[henchman21]

I thought the reason Leivermann went back for this Senior+1 year was that he didn't get any good offers out there. That doesn't mean that Avs didn't want him, but were probably trying to offer him an AHL deal in which he would play the majority of the season in the ECHL where he thinks he's worth an ELC at minimum.

Avs have had his rights the whole time, so other teams couldn't offer him. He elected to go back to school prior to the deadline, so there was no period like Weiss where he could (legally) talk with other teams. I expect he will get an ELC, it just won't be with the Avs.

 

[S E P H]

Avs have had his rights the whole time, so other teams couldn't offer him. He elected to go back to school prior to the deadline, so there was no period like Weiss where he could (legally) talk with other teams. I expect he will get an ELC, it just won't be with the Avs.

Thanks, totally forgot that we still have his rights. Yeah then it seems like Avs probably gave him an AHL deal and he was like, "nah thanks, I'll wait an extra year to potentially get an ELC."

People be haterz, but I would still sign Weiss as he has some TJ Galiardi vibes for me.

 

[Metallo]

Thanks, totally forgot that we still have his rights. Yeah then it seems like Avs probably gave him an AHL deal and he was like, "nah thanks, I'll wait an extra year to potentially get an ELC."

People be haterz, but I would still sign Weiss as he has some TJ Galiardi vibes for me.

Isn't he super small and not that productive?

 

[S E P H]

Isn't he super small and not that productive?

Being super small isn't really the story because Marchand is actually shorter than him, but is like 20 lbs heavier lol. Weiss was able to gain some muscle during his four years, but not enough to help him get to the dirty areas or anything like that. He was a major pest during his USNTDP years and was also able to provide some offence, but when he got to college, he was relied upon for his offensive ability. He didn't lose all that feistiness, but he become softer and got too many of his points on the powerplay. He has serious vision and is a bloody good playmaker, but does too many dangles and loves the finesse style of the game when he has the puck.

 

[Metallo]

Being super small isn't really the story because Marchand is actually shorter than him, but is like 20 lbs heavier lol. Weiss was able to gain some muscle during his four years, but not enough to help him get to the dirty areas or anything like that. He was a major pest during his USNTDP years and was also able to provide some offence, but when he got to college, he was relied upon for his offensive ability. He didn't lose all that feistiness, but he become softer and got too many of his points on the powerplay. He has serious vision and is a bloody good playmaker, but does too many dangles and loves the finesse style of the game when he has the puck.

Thanks for the feedback on his style.

By small I also meant not heavy, he's listed at 154lbs on Elite Prospects. That's ridiculously frail.

Now, I checked on his University profile and he's up to 175lbs, that's more viable.

 

[henchman21]

Weiss had an undiagnosed condition that kept the weight down. He’s heavy enough to play in the NHL today. Will he have enough skill to over come his frame is a whole different question entirely. IMO he’s likely a path of a good AHL player to AAAA sort of player.

 

[S E P H]

Weiss had an undiagnosed condition that kept the weight down. He’s heavy enough to play in the NHL today. Will he have enough skill to over come his frame is a whole different question entirely. IMO he’s likely a path of a good AHL player to AAAA sort of player.

I think he could eventually become a TJ Tynan-esque type of player, but he's gotta stop all the dangles because the pro game is unforgiving. One of those dangles with his head down and he's going to get destroyed.

 

[Pokecheque]

Weiss had an undiagnosed condition that kept the weight down. He’s heavy enough to play in the NHL today. Will he have enough skill to over come his frame is a whole different question entirely. IMO he’s likely a path of a good AHL player to AAAA sort of player.

Whoa...didn't know that.

 

[henchman21]

Whoa...didn't know that.

No stranger to adversity; Crohn’s Disease just the latest hurdle to jump for Omaha Hockey Junior Tyler Weiss - Gateway

Jordan McAlpine CONTRIBUTOR Overcome obstacles: It’s something Omaha Junior forward Tyler Weiss has constantly had to do throughout his young hockey career, dating back to his roots in Raleigh, North Carolina. A fourth round pick of the Colorado Avalanche in 2018 and a rising prospect in the...

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[Pokecheque]

No stranger to adversity; Crohn’s Disease just the latest hurdle to jump for Omaha Hockey Junior Tyler Weiss - Gateway

Jordan McAlpine CONTRIBUTOR Overcome obstacles: It’s something Omaha Junior forward Tyler Weiss has constantly had to do throughout his young hockey career, dating back to his roots in Raleigh, North Carolina. A fourth round pick of the Colorado Avalanche in 2018 and a rising prospect in the...

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Yep, I just looked up that very article. I believe Fernando Pisani was diagnosed right after he had that insane playoff run with the Oilers, his career never quite got back on track.

There's a chance Weiss could still have a successful pro career but it's going to be tough. I had an employee here with Crohn's who'd miss time whenever she got a new infusion treatment, sometimes she ended up in the hospital if those treatments didn't take or she had a bad reaction to them. The good news is that it's not necessarily progressive like other ailments, at least as far as I know.

 

[Bender]

Being super small isn't really the story because Marchand is actually shorter than him, but is like 20 lbs heavier lol. Weiss was able to gain some muscle during his four years, but not enough to help him get to the dirty areas or anything like that. He was a major pest during his USNTDP years and was also able to provide some offence, but when he got to college, he was relied upon for his offensive ability. He didn't lose all that feistiness, but he become softer and got too many of his points on the powerplay. He has serious vision and is a bloody good playmaker, but does too many dangles and loves the finesse style of the game when he has the puck.

Tyler Weiss made Troy Bourque look like He-Man. I never understood that draft pick even as a 4th rounder. Talented - sure, but the odds that he'd turn into Gaudreau were miniscule.

Weiss had an undiagnosed condition that kept the weight down. He’s heavy enough to play in the NHL today. Will he have enough skill to over come his frame is a whole different question entirely. IMO he’s likely a path of a good AHL player to AAAA sort of player.

Sounds like par for the course. Didn't former Avalanche prospect and 2nd round pick Tom Fritsche have the same thing? ...and Theo Fleury?

Is it the same guy pounding the table for all of them? How weird would that be?

 

[niwotsblessing]

Tyler Weiss made Troy Bourque look like He-Man. I never understood that draft pick even as a 4th rounder. Talented - sure, but the odds that he'd turn into Gaudreau were miniscule.

Well played.

 

[henchman21]

Tyler Weiss made Troy Bourque look like He-Man. I never understood that draft pick even as a 4th rounder. Talented - sure, but the odds that he'd turn into Gaudreau were miniscule.


Sounds like par for the course. Didn't former Avalanche prospect and 2nd round pick Tom Fritsche have the same thing? ...and Theo Fleury?

Is it the same guy pounding the table for all of them? How weird would that be?

I have no idea on Fritsche... Fleury did though. It isn't all that uncommon though. Kevin Dineen, Kesler, Pisani and a number of others have the condition.

 

[MarchessaultCantRead]

Tyler Weiss made Troy Bourque look like He-Man. I never understood that draft pick even as a 4th rounder. Talented - sure, but the odds that he'd turn into Gaudreau were miniscule.


Sounds like par for the course. Didn't former Avalanche prospect and 2nd round pick Tom Fritsche have the same thing? ...and Theo Fleury?

Is it the same guy pounding the table for all of them? How weird would that be?

Ehh…I’d rather them take risks like that than drafting guys like Josh Anderson in the 3rd or Mitchell Heard in the 2nd. I’m pretty sure that we can all agree that Anderson and Heard had no chance to make it from the very beginning.

The Weiss pick was a crap ton of projection, but at least he was really talented for his age group at the time and the Avs were hoping that a full college hockey career would get his body ready for the NHL.

Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem like it worked out, but at least I understand their thinking.

More importantly, can someone explain the reason for the Avs having such messed up drafting for so so long? The Avs (Kroenkes) should always have more resources to devote to the draft than pretty much all the teams out there, but teams like the Senators have been wiping the floor with the Avs with much lower budgets. What gives?

 

[niwotsblessing]

Ehh…I’d rather them take risks like that than drafting guys like Josh Anderson in the 3rd or Mitchell Heard in the 2nd. I’m pretty sure that we can all agree that Anderson and Heard had no chance to make it from the very beginning.

The Weiss pick was a crap ton of projection, but at least he was really talented for his age group at the time and the Avs were hoping that a full college hockey career would get his body ready for the NHL.

Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem like it worked out, but at least I understand their thinking.

More importantly, can someone explain the reason for the Avs having such messed up drafting for so so long? The Avs (Kroenkes) should always have more resources to devote to the draft than pretty much all the teams out there, but teams like the Senators have been wiping the floor with the Avs with much lower budgets. What gives?

Walmart pockets the profits, they don't spend it to improve services or infrastructure.

 

[henchman21]

Avs don't actually have a super high budget compared to the rest of the league when it comes to scouting. Fringe bottom 10 from the rumors I've heard (they are just rumors mind you as this is not public data). But a few great scouts can outperform a team of mediocre scouts and the Sens are living proof of that.

Tampa is another team that doesn't have a huge scouting budget, but the have a great set of eyes.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Ehh…I’d rather them take risks like that than drafting guys like Josh Anderson in the 3rd or Mitchell Heard in the 2nd. I’m pretty sure that we can all agree that Anderson and Heard had no chance to make it from the very beginning.

The Weiss pick was a crap ton of projection, but at least he was really talented for his age group at the time and the Avs were hoping that a full college hockey career would get his body ready for the NHL.

Unfortunately, it doesn’t seem like it worked out, but at least I understand their thinking.

More importantly, can someone explain the reason for the Avs having such messed up drafting for so so long? The Avs (Kroenkes) should always have more resources to devote to the draft than pretty much all the teams out there, but teams like the Senators have been wiping the floor with the Avs with much lower budgets. What gives?

I honestly think it's that the Avs just haven't really cared about amateur scouting for whatever reason. It kind of feels like they thought they found the magic formula in 2009 and just assumed it would be a success after. They really didn't do anything to improve scouting aside from having to make a change when Pracey clearly wasn't working out. I really don't know why they didn't make more aggressive moves to address this when it was clear Pracey was drafting iterations of the same player over and over again. No idea what he saw from all those "high character", low ceiling CHLers that he insisted on picking up. What's hilarious is a bunch of his "high character" picks turned out to have terrible character. Bleackley being the most glaring example.

 

[Chiarelli]

Avs ownership in general just comes off as super cheap. They’re in the prime of their contention window and not even spending to the cap ceiling. Scouting clearly needs a shakeup or more resources they are content being terrible and spending little. Pretty lame since they are probably one of the wealthiest owners in the league.