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Speculation: 2023-24 Free Agency/Trade Thread II
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So, you think the pieces returning in a trade will be better than him? Because if not, it’s at best a lateral move, and at worse just makes the team worse. I see zero circumstances where a trade of Gibson returns pieces that improve the team, unless the bad piece you take back rediscovers their game.
The Ducks are very bad at taking players on bad contracts from elsewhere and having them rediscover their aim.
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If Gibson is considered an 'addition by subtraction,' doesn't that mean the team is better off without him?
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It means that best case scenario is that there is a team benefit to not having him on the roster, or that you’re taking another contract back. You won’t get back something that makes the team better.
“So, do you really want to trade him, unless you think those two circumstances are better outcomes that him being on the team” was heavily implied in my original post.
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So, getting rid of Gibson would be a plus, but the "price" of doing so would (most likely be) a negative?
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If you see Gibson as a team cancer, getting rid of him improves team chemistry/morale, even if the return is underwhelming is the argument. You get back arguably to inarguably worse talent in order to get rid of a talent that creates more problems than it solves. That’s the definition of “addition by subtraction”.
I never said it was my argument, but it’s 100% a valid argument, yes.
That should be a doable deal, and one I would seriously consider. They need a goalie, we need a scoring RW. Money's close, and both players have issues. Tha's pretty much a hockey trade. But would BGibby waive for Columbus?
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Yeah, I doubt he would waive but we don’t really know who’s on his list. Maybe his list filled up before he got to add Columbus. lol
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Columbus might actually be a team he'd be willing to waive for (that's also relatively bad and not a contender). He's from Pittsburgh (about 2.5-3 hour drive) so it would make things easy/easier for family/friends to come see him (if that's even a consideration for him).
Laine would fill a need (good RW when he's on) & his contract is only two(?) years, so if he utterly failed/can't come back from whatever mental issues he's working through, the team isn't stuck long term.
It wouldn't be a horrible roll of the dice.
(I did read somewhere that Columbus said that they were sticking with Elvis at least for this upcoming season so they might not even want Gibson)
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Can’t say I remember ever hearing this players name before.
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He was 14th overall in 2022 and was the team USA captain at the most recent world Juniors. Another left handed forward so I don't know if the fit is there for us, but he seems like he can become a really well rounded, two way type that can score. Lacks speed but plays a smart, mature pro style game.
Again not sure if it's overly Ducks relevant but just found it interesting.
He’s still a prospect. Think he was the captain of the US WJC team this year.
He's a Verbeek typeof a player. Would absolutely love him, but I bet the competition would be big and he's another leftie
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Rutger, I’d def be interested in…. Prob plays similar style that pv wants…. And he’s a good leader.
More of a middle 6 compliment/energy guy imo, prob ideal piece on 3rd line
I remember him having a huge hit at wjc…. I also think if I remember correctly he led the USA victory chant in Locker
I’ll add that
More of a middle 6 compliment/energy guy imo, prob ideal piece on 3rd line
I remember him having a huge hit at wjc…. I also think if I remember correctly he led the USA victory chant in Locker
I’ll add that
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McGroarty played LW beside Cutter for the US at the WJC
McGroarty - Gauthier - Moore
Howard - Nazar - Brindley
Perreault - Smith - Leonard
Finley - Nelson - Snuggerud
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Such a loaded F group they iced this year
McGroarty - Gauthier - Moore
Howard - Nazar - Brindley
Perreault - Smith - Leonard
Finley - Nelson - Snuggerud
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Such a loaded F group they iced this year
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Loaded and all sorts of style players, might be the most balanced skilled forward line up we’ve ever seen at jrs
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I like McGroarty, but I don’t think we are willing to give up what Winnipeg wants (unless PV really does want to move Zegras, but I don’t think that’s true). I could see McGroarty being part of a Necas trade, though.
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I would guess that like Gauthier, his value has roughly held up to his draft position from a couple years ago - meaning you are likely looking at a mid first or equivalent package. I can pretty easily picture a team in the 12-20 range, moving their pick for McGroarty if the opportunity arises.
I wonder if something like Lacombe + Oilers 1st gets you on the dance floor?
I wonder if something like Lacombe + Oilers 1st gets you on the dance floor?
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I think it depends on the amount of teams mcgroaty will sign with…. If it’s like 3-4 teams…. Then I think the jets are kinda screwed in what they can ask for
Teams might be willing to pay more…. But if he only wants to play for a team or 2, won’t matter.
Mcgroaty and gauthier are best friends…. So there def is appeal for him to sign in Anaheim
I mean I’d give oiler 1st + lacombe/Vaaks pretty easily…. Prob fine with adding 1 of our 3rds to the deal
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