Speculation: 2023-24 Free Agency/Trade Thread II

[Duck Off]

We also don’t no any of the story with zegras…. Maybe the smoke is legit

Honestly I wouldn’t blame him and I think that’s on Cronin/Verbeek. The accountability double standard Zegras was given was shit. Pathetic display of leadership.

 

[dracom]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803547953275216125

vegas trying to convince him to sign for cheap then moves him immediately after without letting him know.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Honestly I wouldn’t blame him and I think that’s on Cronin/Verbeek. The accountability double standard Zegras was given was shit. Pathetic display of leadership.

I agree, and i wouldnt blame zegras either.

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

Honestly I wouldn’t blame him and I think that’s on Cronin/Verbeek. The accountability double standard Zegras was given was shit. Pathetic display of leadership.

It really has been a disgrace how zegras has been treated here.

Could get a hatty in a game and still be benched for taking a penalty that is committed 3 other times by others

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Kuemper for pld

Kinda makes
Gibson for laine seem like a possible fit

 

[DavidBL]

Kuemper for pld

Kinda makes
Gibson for laine seem like a possible fit

I'd do it but I have a hard time seeing CBJ do it.

 

[All Mighty]

I'd do it but I have a hard time seeing CBJ do it.

If they could somehow make Merzlikins disappear I could see them having interest. Though Gibson would also likely have to agree to a deal.

 

[Arthuros]

Kuemper for pld

Kinda makes
Gibson for laine seem like a possible fit

Gibson's probably the main obstacle. The guy will almost definitely want to be on a winning team.

 

[darkwingduck]

We’re the Kuemper side of this equation with Gibson, what other contracts are PLD level? Kotiemmi? Nurse? Contracts id rather not trade for.

I think Gibson stays for two more years and is traded in his final year.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Another piece of fallout from that Dubois trade is now the Kings will likely be in the market for a scoring forward. Based on their current roster, they will most likely prioritize a righty (Lafferiere is the only righty they have under contract), which means they will be after some of the same players as us.

I'm thinking with the extra $3.25 mil AAV opened up for the Kings, it gives them more ammo to keep RD Roy and still be in the hunt for a scoring forward. A double whammy!

 

[SmokeyDuck]

We’re the Kuemper side of this equation with Gibson, what other contracts are PLD level? Kotiemmi? Nurse? Contracts id rather not trade for.

I think Gibson stays for two more years and is traded in his final year.

Tom Wilson? Washington going 2 for 2 lol.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

Moving Gibson at this point sucks. His value has never been lower and I really do think he will turn it around. Shame that it seems like it will be with a team that isn't us.

He should have been traded years ago

 

[Dostwall]

On The Jeff Marek Show today, they were talking about the goalie market and Friedman said:
“I’m gonna throw another name at you, and that’s John Gibson. I think there are some teams looking into Gibson.”

Added that New Jersey was one of those teams, he’s not sure about Ottawa being a fit, and the Ducks don’t want to retain salary. Also mentioned Detroit as a team he suspects to be in the goalie market.

 

[Arthuros]

On The Jeff Marek Show today, they were talking about the goalie market and Friedman said:
“I’m gonna throw another name at you, and that’s John Gibson. I think there are some teams looking into Gibson.”

Added that New Jersey was one of those teams, he’s not sure about Ottawa being a fit, and the Ducks don’t want to retain salary. Also mentioned Detroit as a team he suspects to be in the goalie market.

Don't even know enough about Detroit or Ottawa to think about who I'd want from them that you could get for Gibson, to be honest. Even at half his salary it's not like we're getting anyone premium.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Don't even know enough about Detroit or Ottawa to think about who I'd want from them that you could get for Gibson, to be honest. Even at half his salary it's not like we're getting anyone premium.

Husso + breggren for gibson
Husso + 15 for gibson + bruins 2nd

/shrug

 

[All Mighty]

Husso + breggren for gibson
Husso + 15 for gibson + bruins 2nd

/shrug

Not sure if Detroit would add to Husso if Gibson isn’t retained at all.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Not sure if Detroit would add to Husso if Gibson isn’t retained at all.

True… I don’t see the harm in retaining 1-2 mil tbh

 

[All Mighty]

True… I don’t see the harm in retaining 1-2 mil tbh

I don’t either (though it isn’t my money). I’ve always been a proponent of retaining 50% to squeeze out as much value as possible. You only get so many retention slots, might as well make the most of them.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

True… I don’t see the harm in retaining 1-2 mil tbh

It eliminates a retention spot for the next three years. That's a long time. Having flexibility at the TDL is important. Even if we start improving and competing for the playoffs it doesn't mean we won't end up in a spot where a trade or two could be helpful to the then current team.

 

[ScarTroy]

True… I don’t see the harm in retaining 1-2 mil tbh

We can’t before the draft right? So any trade involving #15 can’t involve retention from us.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

It eliminates a retention spot for the next three years. That's a long time. Having flexibility at the TDL is important. Even if we start improving and competing for the playoffs it doesn't mean we won't end up in a spot where a trade or two could be helpful to the then current team.

Not on my computer…. But isn’t the net gain cap space giving us flexibility?

 

[Rasp]

It eliminates a retention spot for the next three years. That's a long time. Having flexibility at the TDL is important. Even if we start improving and competing for the playoffs it doesn't mean we won't end up in a spot where a trade or two could be helpful to the then current team.

This is why we dont want to retain. Losing 1/3 retention spots for 3 years can hurt the teams flexibility in future trades. The next 3 years are going to be critical for building us into a cup competitor.

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

It really has been a disgrace how zegras has been treated here.

Could get a hatty in a game and still be benched for taking a penalty that is committed 3 other times by others

What do you expect? It’s the blind leading the blind. Rookie GM and a rookie HC will lead this team to nowhere

 

[dracom]

What do you expect? It’s the blind leading the blind. Rookie GM and a rookie HC will lead this team to nowhere

Not true…they’ll lead the team to the basement and being the west coast Sabres.

 

[The Mighty Duck Man]

This is why we dont want to retain. Losing 1/3 retention spots for 3 years can hurt the teams flexibility in future trades. The next 3 years are going to be critical for building us into a cup competitor.

It’s not ideal but probably wouldn’t hurt that much, you rarely need all three. They will probably only use one more regardless this year, two if they maybe have another Klingberg type pickup, and after that there’s no obvious candidates.

I could also see Detroit not really push for it and certainly not pay for it. They have a lot of cap space and Gibson over Husso would only add $1.5 million or so.