Prospect Info: 2023-24 Ducks Prospects

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Hockey Duckie

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Wow has Colangelo's skating ever improved. That was smooth.

Colangelo was putting his improved skating at the Dev camp. He was tenacious and scoring too. He was one of the standouts and looked to be putting a show on for Verbeek to offer him an ELC.

With 12 goals, Colangelo is now tied for 8th best in NCAA goal scoring. The current high is 17 goals. The 12 goals matches Colangelo's NCAA career high set two years ago in 29 games; he's only played in 17 games this year. It's only a matter of time before he sets an NCAA career high in goal scoring.

A 6'3 and 209 lbs RW power forward who can score goals. What NHL team could use that in their system?
 

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Colangelo was putting his improved skating at the Dev camp. He was tenacious and scoring too. He was one of the standouts and looked to be putting a show on for Verbeek to offer him an ELC.

With 12 goals, Colangelo is now tied for 8th best in NCAA goal scoring. The current high is 17 goals. The 12 goals matches Colangelo's NCAA career high set two years ago in 29 games; he's only played in 17 games this year. It's only a matter of time before he sets an NCAA career high in goal scoring.

A 6'3 and 209 lbs RW power forward who can score goals. What NHL team could use that in their system?
Every NHL team, which worries me.
 

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Every NHL team, which worries me.

Colangelo scored another goal again today to make it his 13th of the season. He's surpassed his previous NCAA career high in goals.

Fortunately, I was able to catch College Hockey News' live box to see that Colangelo was playing 2RW. Western Michigan's top line went crazy today with 8 points (4g + 4a).
 

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From Karpa?

edit - that is Zak Karpa, son of Dave Karpa, maybe the craziest sonofabitch to ever play for the Ducks.
Played a beer league game against Karpa years ago at Anaheim Ice… a teammate tried to fight him not knowing he was an absolute savage. Karpa grabbed his jersey and rag dolled him around for a bit to calm him down. It was a sight to see.
 

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Flint has apparently moved a couple other key veterans and aren't set up for a run in what should be Pitre's final junior season. He'd be a great pickup for a contender in the next couple days..
 

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Flint has apparently moved a couple other key veterans and aren't set up for a run in what should be Pitre's final junior season. He'd be a great pickup for a contender in the next couple days..

Is it really Pitre's final junior season? He won't turn 20 years old until next Dec. Ben King played as a 20 year old last year in the WHL. I don't mind Pitre staying in juniors for another season.
 

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Is it really Pitre's final junior season? He won't turn 20 years old until next Dec. Ben King played as a 20 year old last year in the WHL. I don't mind Pitre staying in juniors for another season.

An early third round pick doesn't typically return to the CHL for their overage season unless something went wrong with their development. King is a unique case of a guy drafted in his third year of eligibility, returning to the WHL as an OA was inevitable for him had he not been drafted, and still made sense given his later development curve.

Pitre was a late bday drafted in his first year of eligibility, and on a more typical trajectory. He's been lauded for having a pro style game and is probably more overall ready for the AHL as a 20 year old than a guy like Pastujov.
 

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An early third round pick doesn't typically return to the CHL for their overage season unless something went wrong with their development. King is a unique case of a guy drafted in his third year of eligibility, returning to the WHL as an OA was inevitable for him had he not been drafted, and still made sense given his later development curve.

Pitre was a late bday drafted in his first year of eligibility, and on a more typical trajectory. He's been lauded for having a pro style game and is probably more overall ready for the AHL as a 20 year old than a guy like Pastujov.

Can you give me a few hockey reasons why Pitre should be promoted to the AHL next year? You've given a generality, but nothing specific about Pitre.
 

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Can you give me a few hockey reasons why Pitre should be promoted to the AHL next year? You've given a generality, but nothing specific about Pitre.

Nah I'm not gonna spend my afternoon writing an essay on why Pitre isn't different from the majority of drafted CHL prospects who graduate to pro rather than stick around as an OA. It's possible he's sent back, but it would be a rather unprecedented choice by the Ducks.
 

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Nah I'm not gonna spend my afternoon writing an essay on why Pitre isn't different from the majority of drafted CHL prospects who graduate to pro rather than stick around as an OA. It's possible he's sent back, but it would be a rather unprecedented choice by the Ducks.

Just say all you have are generalities rather trying to dodge the question, especially since you brought up Pitre specifically. Don't be a dick by giving a backhanded response with "writing an essay". I truly want to know why you think he deserves to make the AHL jump aside from generalities?

Pitre's offense hasn't improved from last year. It's the same production rate as of today, 1.02 ppg (60pts in 59 games) last year and 1.03 ppg (37 pts in 36 games) this year. He's a good grinder, though. Pitre isn't dominating as a 19-year old. Is being a good grinder enough to go the AHL, against men, when he can continue to develop another season in juniors?

Ben King's scoring rate when we drafted him as an overager was 1.54 ppg (105 pts in 68 games). We let him stay in juniors an extra year. King was a Verbeek draftee too.

Terrance, selected in the 2nd round of the same draft year as Pitre, has vastly improved his scoring rate. Last year, his rate was 0.70 ppg (47 pts in 60 games). This year, it's 1.21 ppg (34pts in 28 games) and an alternate for the WJC-20 as an 18-year old. Just like Coulson, it'll be Terrance's third season in juniors, but unlike Coulson, Terrance is age ineligible for the AHL.
 

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Just say all you have are generalities rather trying to dodge the question, especially since you brought up Pitre specifically. Don't be a dick by giving a backhanded response with "writing an essay". I truly want to know why you think he deserves to make the AHL jump aside from generalities?

Pitre's offense hasn't improved from last year. It's the same production rate as of today, 1.02 ppg (60pts in 59 games) last year and 1.03 ppg (37 pts in 36 games) this year. He's a good grinder, though. Pitre isn't dominating as a 19-year old. Is being a good grinder enough to go the AHL, against men, when he can continue to develop another season in juniors?

Ben King's scoring rate when we drafted him as an overager was 1.54 ppg (105 pts in 68 games). We let him stay in juniors an extra year. King was a Verbeek draftee too.

Terrance, selected in the 2nd round of the same draft year as Pitre, has vastly improved his scoring rate. Last year, his rate was 0.70 ppg (47 pts in 60 games). This year, it's 1.21 ppg (34pts in 28 games) and an alternate for the WJC-20 as an 18-year old. Just like Coulson, it'll be Terrance's third season in juniors, but unlike Coulson, Terrance is age ineligible for the AHL.

You aren't understanding that you would be the one required to provide your burden of proof here. It would be entirely unusual if the Ducks sent Pitre back for an OA year based on any recent precedence for how 20 year old CHL prospects have been handled. I've already pointed out why King is the exception and not the norm.

Have a look for yourself, the list of drafted prospects who return to the CHL for an overage year is slim and unimpressive. It would indicate there's a glaring issue with his pro readiness, when on the contrary he's seen as more of a high floor/low ceiling guy who plays a more pro ready game. It would be more on you to point out what part of his game makes him not ready to graduate at the same pace as the vast majority of his peers..
 
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