Speculation: 2023-24-25 Sharks Roster Discussion
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Hodge
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Well duh, why would we be? He's signed for 2 more seasons after this one so there is no compelling reason to move him now. The entire logic of a Ferraro trade rests on some other team overpaying which typically only happens when they call you about a player not the other way around.
OrrNumber4
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Juxtaposer
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Also, if we were shopping him, I still wouldn’t tell people we were shopping him, because that inevitably begs the question why. A guy who is not being shopped is more valuable than a guy who is being shopped.
timorous me
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Better if the Sharks don't look desperate. "You want him? Well, you'd better be ready to pay up because it's not like we're trying to offload him like a bum!"
timorous me
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Haha well, I'm not exactly accustomed to playing hard to get, so my advice on doing so should probably come with a grain of salt anyway.
Mr Fahrenheit
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I don't know if I'd qualify Thornton in Boston as someone that makes sense for this context. He wasn't shopped but it wasn't about shopping him either. They just wanted to dump him.
LadyStanley
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Come on, you know that was a once in a lifetime opportunity.
STL Shark
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Already calculated that Goodrow contract is worth 18th overall pick. So basically taking his contract = Perreault in the eventual Hertl trade as NYR get desperate to capitalize on the last years of Panarin's contract.
CaptainShark
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Dunno where to put it hence dunno if it has been mentioned, but Capfriendly mentions the Sharks as one of several potential destinations for NCAA UFA to be Collin Graf, their calling card being an easy way into the lineup.
one2gamble
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STL Shark
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I think it works very well. NYR have eyed Hertl for years in rumors. Goodrow returns back to SJ (assuming not on his 15 team no trade list), Sharks get Smith's linemate, and Hertl gets to go to a contender. Probably add some pieces on both sides of the deal to balance out the value, but I would put them and Boston at the top of the list.
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STL Shark
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We're not exactly loaded at any position prospect wise to be making trade calls on any non-existent surplus. If getting Perreault maximizes Smith's effectiveness, it's a no brainer no matter who else is in the system. Think we all have high hopes for Musty, but he's really the only other LW that we have organizationally that would be battling for top 6 minutes with Perreault (Eklund being locked into the other).
pappaf2
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What does Hertl return in this trade if NYR pays the sharks Perrault to take Goodrow?
Groo
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Ah! Potential. Where would HF be with out the playground of potential
No. Not really
Ok keep enjoying being in the basement for 30 years like Buffalo, potential and prospects is how you get out of that. Not 30 year old 50 point players like Hertl and Couture.
STL Shark
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Given he's still a $8.137M player for 6 more years, hope to probably get a 2nd or a 2025 1st out of the deal?
Perreault + Goodrow + 2025 2nd (becomes 2026 1st if NYR make ECF in 2024-25) for Hertl.
Would prefer more for taking back more money, but NYR don't have many contracts to dump and I do not want to not retain on Hertl for 6 years.
Sets the core up nicely with Eklund, Perreault, Musty, Guschin, and Haltunnen on the wings. Then have Celebrini (willing it into existence), Smith, Bystedt, and Lund down the middle. Leaves you searching to fill out the other wing slots and then the all important defense via UFA/Draft/Trade. But out of that group of 9, you'd hope to get 5-6 top 9 caliber players based on draft position and talent profiles.
