Speculation: 2023-24-25 Sharks Roster Discussion
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Sendhelplease
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We just got out of the Karlsson contract, I don't want to replace it with six years of Seth Jones. I also don't see why Chicago trades him, they don't need more cap space so why would they add futures to trade him away? I think we should trade for overpaid guys in the 6 million and below tier. Get another Granlund type player with a couple years left on the contract who could be a positive asset when he has 1 year left on the contract.
Gecklund
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I don't buy that. Jones can eat a lot of minutes, but he does so at an awful level of performance.
Jones might be top pairing on our team, but that's because our defense couldn't defend the zone against a hospice unit team.
Hodge
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I was just thinking with the changes in Columbus we might be able to get him for a 2nd + a prospect like Bordeleau or something in the summer then retain 50% and get a 1st+ next deadline.
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OrrNumber4
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If the price is cheap, why not? He's a top-4 defenseman and not signed long term.
Anomie2029
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And that's better than Hoffman, who for someone who is meant to be a shooter is amongst the worst of the forward group in terms of shot generation, high danger chances, rebounds created, etc.
Anomie2029
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Probably why there is such a demand for him, right?
If that were true, Chicago would have no problems moving him.
No thanks. Aside from the obvious off-ice related crap, his play in the last two seasons have just been awful. Don't want to trade away assets in the hope that it changes to be flipped for more.
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Those two are good options. I’m definitely curious what Chychrun is worth in a trade after his malcontentment has come to life. If we could get him for the Devils’ 2nd and a non-Smith/Musty/Mukh prospect, I’d do it with the plan of flipping him at the 2025 deadline at 50% for a 1st++.
I wonder if Noah Dobson could be offersheeted when he’s an RFA in 2025. If we got Celebrini this year and another top defense prospect in 2025, plus made some trades, it’s an intriguing idea.
OrrNumber4
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I feel like Dobson would be a great #2 guy; target him after you have your #1 guy.
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Only problem with offer sheeting Dobson is that Sharks will probably lose 2-4x 1st round picks if it goes through. He will be probably worth 9mil + and the Islanders will do everything in their power to match it. But would love the idea of Noah Dobson in teal, it would solve a lot.
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Offer sheet compensation
$8,580,251 - $10,725,314 = 2x 1st round picks, 2nd round pick and 3rd round pick.
$10,725,315 + = 4x 1st round picks.
I would not be offersheeting anyone right now. In about 3-4 years we’re gonna be dealing with a lot of upper tier RFA and I don’t want that coming back to bite em.
tiburon12
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I dont see the value in that honestly, unless it was to jam up the islanders. They'll have his 4M + Nelson and Palmieri's combined 11M coming off the books then, so they will definitely have the means to match anything. Plus they payment.....i just don't see it.
I see the value in OS'ing players like K Miller or Bouchard last summer, or Knies in a few years. Good players on good teams in a cap crunch. That way you can offer them 4.29M and only give up a 2nd.
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Jargon
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There’s rumors that the Leafs would potentially part with a 1st rounder for Ferraro and I’m still a little unsure about why Ferraro should be traded. He’s still super young — and a late 1st, I mean… don’t you kinda hope that a late 1st can become a Ferraro-level player? Like, Ozzy was a late 1st… when you consider his leadership qualities and what he means to the guys in the room, I just worry they’re getting rid of one of the few cheerleaders on the team for a lottery ticket.
Except Ferraro sucks, so hopefully you can get someone better than him with a late 1st.
Mirco Mueller was young, Goldobin was young, Merkley wass young. All 3 + Ferraro have things in common and its that they were young but garbage. Guess we should of held onto all of those pieces also.
Stewie Griffin
What the deuce
Even Ferraro himself was a 2nd. Turning that into a 1st (with the chance of that becoming a better player) is good asset management depending who they would pick.
Are there any recent comparables to a Ferraro trade?
Hodge
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Honestly, maybe the McCabe trade to Toronto last year? Jake McCabe @ 50% retained (2Mx3), Sam Lafferty and two 5ths for a 1st, 2nd, Joey Anderson and Pavel Gogolev.
Could we get a similar return for Ferraro and Kunin? If so we should do it IMO.
Gecklund
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Musty was a late first too. Ferraro has been much better this year but still he’s not very good,
