Speculation: 2023-24-25 Sharks Roster Discussion

[TheBeard]

I simply disagree about Pietrangelo, he wasn't at the same level in 2023 as he was in 2019 but he was still stellar, definitely a legit #1

He was bad in the playoffs. If the team has any aspirations of a long run they have to manage his minutes better.

Trouba's wife's residency program ends this year and he's going to be moved after the season. So they will have room to get the Miller deal done. Not looking to give up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for Miller (which is the compensation it would take to make it worth his while to sign the offersheet) when the 1st is going to be inside of the top 10 once again.

What would you say Miller’s worth is on the trade market?

 

[weastern bias]

He was bad in the playoffs. If the team has any aspirations of a long run they have to manage his minutes better.

He made the single most important play of their cup run (intentionally injuring the rightful Conn Smythe leader and having the chache to get a slap on the wrist for it), he was basically their MVP

That's heady play, right there

 

[Juxtaposer]

I have always liked Liljegren and think he's a super ideal target for us at the stage that we're at. 25 year old two-way RHD, probably not much more upside but can play on a second pair just fine. He's got his flaws (soft, inconsistent at times, mediocre in the playoffs) but I don't really think those are that important to us right now. He's comfortably be our second best D and would probably be a pretty good partner for Ferraro or even Thrun.

Can't imagine it would take more than a pick.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Rangers gonna be super cash-strapped next year once they re-sign Igor so here's a question. If the team has a decent showing this year (not playoffs but not dead last), would you offer sheet K'andre Miller?

Possibly. I'd need to know how the team is addressing the right side when Ceci and Rutta are likely gone and what we plan to do with at least Ferraro, Thrun, Vlasic, and Walman who all have next year before expiring plus our closer to ready prospects like Mukhamadullin and Cagnoni. I would think Miller is a great idea if we can at least get a real top pairing level RHD to pair him with.

 

[TheBeard]

Possibly. I'd need to know how the team is addressing the right side when Ceci and Rutta are likely gone and what we plan to do with at least Ferraro, Thrun, Vlasic, and Walman who all have next year before expiring plus our closer to ready prospects like Mukhamadullin and Cagnoni. I would think Miller is a great idea if we can at least get a real top pairing level RHD to pair him with.

I’m Intrigued by the idea of getting a top pairing d-man under contract before we have to break the bank for the smiths and celebrities. Waiting to draft one only to have to be patient with their development (which isn’t a sure thing either) may end up wasting prime years for the core.

 

[Jargon]

I have always liked Liljegren and think he's a super ideal target for us at the stage that we're at. 25 year old two-way RHD, probably not much more upside but can play on a second pair just fine. He's got his flaws (soft, inconsistent at times, mediocre in the playoffs) but I don't really think those are that important to us right now. He's comfortably be our second best D and would probably be a pretty good partner for Ferraro or even Thrun.

Can't imagine it would take more than a pick.

Yeah, I think it balances the D corp a lot. I’d love to eventually see like:

Walman - Ceci
Ferraro - Liljegren
Muhk - Thrun

If Muhk grows and gets better, you eventually do:

Muhk - Ceci
Walman - Liljegren
Ferraro - Thrun

I know that leaves out Benning, Rutta and Vlasic eventually but… it’s a fairly mobile, fun D-corp.

 

[Juxtaposer]

Yeah, I think it balances the D corp a lot. I’d love to eventually see like:

Walman - Ceci
Ferraro - Liljegren
Muhk - Thrun

If Muhk grows and gets better, you eventually do:

Muhk - Ceci
Walman - Liljegren
Ferraro - Thrun

I know that leaves out Benning, Rutta and Vlasic eventually but… it’s a fairly mobile, fun D-corp.

I like that first lineup a ton. Between Walman, Liljegren, and Mukhamadullin there's someone who can handle the puck on every pairing, which we currently lack.

Liljegren probably isn't a player you want if you're a contender, but I have lots of time for him on the Sharks.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I’m Intrigued by the idea of getting a top pairing d-man under contract before we have to break the bank for the smiths and celebrities. Waiting to draft one only to have to be patient with their development (which isn’t a sure thing either) may end up wasting prime years for the core.

I agree with those concerns but at least this season will afford us a pretty good look at guys like Mukhamadullin and Thrun in the NHL. I'm hoping to see Mukhamadullin a lot this season. If he shows real promise, he's an RFA at season's end and you can lock him in to a good deal.