Speculation: 2023-24-25 Sharks Roster Discussion
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Doesn't make me sad.
It tells me that these two know their stuff. If either of them decide to go past the beat writer type blogging and become real sports personalities, I would 100% support them. Jux could be the next Wojznarovski but for hockey. Her tweets would be JuxBombs!
(I considered KoyoteBombs but that sounds a little too feral like something you step in at Henry Coe)
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If we are still bad/terrible in 3 years picking in the top 5. It means we busted on a lot of our forwards.Agreed. Dupont is literally exactly the player we need. I really wish he were eligible sooner than three years away. If we're still this bad in three years, I think most of the fans around here now won't still be.
My projection would be mid to late teens at that point in time.
Forget the elbows, i remember Pronger wore a size 7.5 shoe, it was ridiculous. I remember the signs in the arena when we upset them in 7 in 2000 when they won the presidents trophy. Comparying his manhood to his feet lol, it was glorious
I disagree with this. If we're still bad/terrible in 3 years picking in the top 5, it means we've never successfully addressed the blue line. This team's weakest point since Grier took over is the blue line and typically the guys that take the longest to develop are blue liners. Dickinson may only be finishing his first pro year in three years. We may or may not know what we're getting out of guys like Muk or Cagnoni by then. It's hard to say. Our blue line doesn't have much committed to it and doesn't have a whole lot invested into it from a prospects perspective for such a group that is lacking talent. That group is pivotal for being able to claw one's way out of the bottom.
You believe with our current projections of forwards, if they pan out. in 3 years if they are meeting projections. legit top 6/allstar/ franchise center etc. That we would still be bad enough to pick top 5. Without a top 5 pick in 3 years, i would say top 5 finish this season for sure. Potentially breaking out of the top ten year 2. By after year 3 it would seem we are taking steps back if we continue to pick top 5, as i would have us likely still improving. My point is i think they have an outside shot to compete, be in playoff race late year 3.
I would also think by next summer, and the one after the will be agressive in free agency/trades. I can see them putting a decently competitive roster before all the elcs are up for a year at least. You can add a couple quality D by free agency trade in an offseason.
Boyle Trade/ Blake sign. There will be opportunities, gotta hope this core comes together.
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It's very possible. If our blue line continues to be a hodgepodge of bottom pairing defensemen or worse as a group, it can very much drag down the play and productivity of the forwards who may still meet certain projections like that. I agree there will be opportunities to improve the blue line externally but I wouldn't get my hopes up over it. The supply is almost always thin and the Sharks are rarely the ones that benefit.
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Zetterlund is one of the few non-star players I'd be down to give a six five or six year contract to keep the AAV down.
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IMO Zetterlund has $5Mx6 written all over him if he has another season similar to last.
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If someone loves this mess, I don't know what they're going to feel when the Sharks are good again. Re-sign this man!
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To me that's a major if. definitely a make/break season for him
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Sure, if he doesn't put up 50 points while maintaining his off-puck play, then that's a different story.
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yea, what i mean is that this is the year to prove if last year was a stepping stone or a anomaly. If it's the former, lock him in
I suspect this will be a controversial opinion but I think we should trade Zetterlund instead of re-signing him. I think Zetterlund's value will never be higher than it is right now and that we could likely get a first and a bit more for him in a trade.
It would have to be for similar value as what was given up for Askarov.
I would be more inclined to if Smith and Celebrini struggle since that would delay the timeline.
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Why would we trade a 25 year old middle six forward for a pick that has maybe a 15% chance of developing into a similar player in 4-5 years?
I'm only open to moving Zetterlund if it returns a cornerstone defenseman type. Outside of that, Zetterlund should be kept until we create a situation where we have too many wingers and not enough spots. We're probably two years away from that at the earliest.
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You're probably right that his value is higher now than it'll ever be, but aren't we done with the tear down? Why are we moving valuable players out? Who exactly in our system is going to replace Zetterlund? We have no prospects like him, so we'd just be looking for another Zetterlund immediately.
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Thanks for making this point. I think some get “trade happy.” Zetterlund is certainly a part of the core, in my opinion.
Plus, Zetterlund works his ass off and wants to be here. Stuff off the stat sheet like positive culture is so important for a team that's going to take its licks with a a bunch of under 23's on it
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