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Personally I would try to keep Sturm past his current contract. He could be a great 4C on a contending team.
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Personally I would try to keep Sturm past his current contract. He could be a great 4C on a contending team.
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CanadienShark
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Gaustad got a 1st somehow. Granted that was like a decade ago.
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one2gamble
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It's crazy that Vlasic was drafted by us and has played almost 1250 games only with us and I just wish every day that he wasn't a Shark anymore. Players like that are usually big time fan favourites. The moment he signed his crippling deal, he mailed it in so hard.
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Tanking or not tanking, this losing streak should be noticed by the management and something should be done. At least for the locker room. Waive Vlasic or someone and bring players from AHL and start trending towards being rewarded if you play well.
Grier should be making calls about trades, the middle tier trades where Sharks can find a prospect gem (like Thrun).
We knew Sharks aren't good, but they are so much worse than I imagined.
Tanking or not tanking, they should still be a league caliber team and Sharks are really not that right now.
Grier should be making calls about trades, the middle tier trades where Sharks can find a prospect gem (like Thrun).
We knew Sharks aren't good, but they are so much worse than I imagined.
Tanking or not tanking, they should still be a league caliber team and Sharks are really not that right now.
Sorry but if Thrun was such a gem, he'd be playing in the NHL.
Sharks are doing what they do best - hyping up prospects.
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Sharks fans are doing what they do best - hyping up prospects.
Sharks are doing what they do best - ensuring they don't develop prospects.
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Well Thrun IS still tied with Ferraro for the most points by defencemen even though he hasn't played in almost two weeks for the Sharks.
Ultimately he is not going to be a game changing defencemen, but he is a gem for the price Grier paid.
EDIT: I want to add that I'm okay with letting prospects play in AHL to grow like for example Bordeleau, but players that have actually shown that they are better than their so called competition should get their time on the big club.
Like Thrun and Mukh.
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Thrun’s 2 assists are:
A dump/keep in from the point that goes 10 feet wide of the net and hits Hertl in the body who then sends a pass to Zadina.
A shot that goes 5 feet wide but happens to bank off the boards to Eklund.
Yes he has 2 assists but none of these are quality hockey plays that could be reproduced with any frequency. Getting 2 lucky assists on 2 of a teams 9 goals is not deserving of staying in the NHL.
you're right. he should've done a triple backflip into a 720 no scope spinarama trickshot pass from behind the Shark's goalie's net Dude Perfect style for those assists. What was he thinking?
Hodge
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Eklund seems to be developing quite well?
Maybe it's time to hold Bordeleau accountable for failing to improve any aspect of his game in the last two years. He fluked into a completely unearned opportunity to start the season thanks to Couture's injury and failed to do anything with it. He was terrible at the end of last season.
Bordeleau is still young and shouldn't be written off entirely but unless you're in his immediate family I don't understand how you can consider him NHL ready at this point.
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Bordeleau showed some signs that he can improve. He looked a lot better this time around with SJ and a lot more like his first 8 game stint. I was absolutely on the Bordeleau probably won’t be an NHL player train but now I’m sort of on the maybe train. He just looks so off on the wing but doesn’t really play a game that works as a C at the NHL level. Really weird player.
Hodge
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I just don't see where he fits into a NHL lineup. As you mentioned he doesn't really fit on the wing so he has to play center. He is not skilled enough to be a top six center and that's unlikely to change at this point. So unless he can radically improve his defensive game the best he can really hope to be is like a Blake Lizotte type 4C. Personally I wouldn't bet on him even getting to that level.
Gushchin looks like the clearly superior prospect at this point and he should find it easier to secure a regular role as a winger.
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I think he has the potential to be a 3C with some more physical or defensively responsible wingers. I totally agree though he’s just such a weird fit where you sort of need to build a line around him and I just don’t see where comes from. I think a line with him, Lund, and like a Gregor type would be an okay line potentially. Just weird fits though.
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Yeah I was hoping Bords could be a slightly worse version of Brayden Point. After watching them play against each other (and watching Bords for the last year) I can't see that happening unfortunately. He will need to round out his game in the AHL or go play in Europe.
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I think the things I want to see from Bordeleau is for him to either get stronger/get more slippery, be more patient with the puck, and to string together simple plays. Seems like he's getting outmuscled when he attacks the puck carrier, chasing the play defensively, and he's making hope plays when he does have the puck.
It's hard for me to have much confidence in Bordeleau's odds of being an NHL regular. He just doesn't do anything well on a consistent basis. And if he doesn't figure something out to show he ought to be a regular by the end of the year, I don't think he will here. He could get passed up on the depth chart as early as next season depending on what guys like Bystedt, Lund, and Smith decide to do or progress. We're still going to have Hertl and Couture next season. I don't see Sturm going anywhere either. That pretty much leaves 3C as the vacant spot and if Bordeleau can't play wing, that's his only spot to go for. And if I had to choose right now, I'd put Bystedt there over Bordeleau.
Gushchin is at least scoring enough to warrant an opportunity and if he can make that translate to the NHL, they will make a spot for him. The only wingers you wouldn't consider benching for Gushchin at this stage is Eklund, Kunin (only because of the goal scored), and Zetterlund as two of those three have been playing well enough to keep them in the lineup and everyone else on the wing hasn't really done anything in a while.
Gushchin is at least scoring enough to warrant an opportunity and if he can make that translate to the NHL, they will make a spot for him. The only wingers you wouldn't consider benching for Gushchin at this stage is Eklund, Kunin (only because of the goal scored), and Zetterlund as two of those three have been playing well enough to keep them in the lineup and everyone else on the wing hasn't really done anything in a while.
Bords has a ceiling as a high scoring AHL center that doesn’t help an AHL team win.
He just isn’t good. My hope is he can score enough with the Cuda to be a part of a bigger trade package. For example Bords + NJ 1st/2nd + Musty for Swayman or as a bigger package for Petterson.
I suspect Bords will end up in a deal like Merkley was. Swayman isn't worth that sort of price for the Sharks right now. We don't have the depth to make acquiring Pettersson right now worth it either. The team needs to be patient and build through the draft for a couple more years minimum.
