Speculation: 2023-24-25 Sharks Roster Discussion

[fasterthanlight]

So our goalie plan is to ride blackwood and vanecek, opportunistically trading one by the deadline, and hoping Askarov can make the jump to backup at least at that point?

 

[Hodge]

So our goalie plan is to ride blackwood and vanecek, opportunistically trading one by the deadline, and hoping Askarov can make the jump to backup at least at that point?

I think Askarov will make the big club out of camp. Vanecek is coming off season ending surgery and is kind of a bum anyway.

 

[67 others]

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Thats a massive overpayment, that being said I can’t wait for the Hodge nuclear meltdown

Im not sure how our 6th or 7th ranked prospect expected to be a 3rd line C and a likely late Vegas 1st for a goalie that went 11th overall a few years back and is on every list as top 3 goalie prospect in the world is "massive overpay"

 

[Hangemhigh]

What are the contracts for Vanacek and Blackwood? One more year for Blackwood and 2 for Vanacek? Is there a site that lists contracts?

 

[BaileyMacTavish]

What are the contracts for Vanacek and Blackwood? One more year for Blackwood and 2 for Vanacek? Is there a site that lists contracts?

Puckpedia does that now

 

[hohosaregood]

I don't really see where they put him. Pietrangelo, Hanifin, Theodore, McNabb, Whitecloud, and Hague are pretty much locks for their top 6 on D. Then they signed Ben Hutton to a 2 year extension as a guy that can play both sides and won't be hurt by sitting in the press box until an injury occurs.

So unless an injury happens to one of those guys during camp, I think Korczak is going to pass through waivers and should be someone that we're salivating over using our top waiver priority to grab.

I was talking to my friend who's a Vgk fan and he thinks it's unlikely right now. They can carry 8D pretty easily since their 13th and 14th forwards are like Tanner Laczinski and Jonas Rondbjerg. Basically a couple no name guys who they wouldn't care about sending down. I do like the idea of grabbing Korczak though

 

[STL Shark]

I think Askarov will make the big club out of camp. Vanecek is coming off season ending surgery and is kind of a bum anyway.

League average to slightly above league average goalie for 3 years and then a putrid year last year while dealing with some sort of injury. Not sure that’s bum territory.

 

[STL Shark]

I was talking to my friend who's a Vgk fan and he thinks it's unlikely right now. They can carry 8D pretty easily since their 13th and 14th forwards are like Tanner Laczinski and Jonas Rondbjerg. Basically a couple no name guys who they wouldn't care about sending down. I do like the idea of grabbing Korczak though

Can go 13F and 8D, but then you’re stunting Korczak from playing games. They also have Pearson in on a PTO now as well that could claim a roster spot.

 

[Hodge]

League average to slightly above league average goalie for 3 years and then a putrid year last year while dealing with some sort of injury. Not sure that’s bum territory.

He’s only had one season in his career where his goals saved above expected wasn’t severely negative.

 

[one2gamble]

6th or 7th?, he was barely top 10

Im not sure how our 6th or 7th ranked prospect expected to be a 3rd line C and a likely late Vegas 1st for a goalie that went 11th overall a few years back and is on every list as top 3 goalie prospect in the world is "massive overpay"

 

[Pinkfloyd]

What are the contracts for Vanacek and Blackwood? One more year for Blackwood and 2 for Vanacek? Is there a site that lists contracts?

They both have this season left on their contracts. I suspect that the idea will be to have Blackwood be the #1 with Vanecek as the backup while Askarov starts in the AHL. If any injuries come up which is practically guaranteed with these two, Askarov will probably get the starts. Then again, if Askarov blows the door off of preseason, there's nothing wrong with making him the #1 and having Blackwood behind him and waiving Vanecek. Though to be real, I would take any sort of swap with Vanecek that comes up. Vancouver is looking for a goalie while Demko heals. The issue there is what Vancouver actually wants to move back to make that work.

 

[Bizz]

What are the contracts for Vanacek and Blackwood? One more year for Blackwood and 2 for Vanacek? Is there a site that lists contracts?

I know it's >Eklund, but this is what I use. He updates it pretty quickly and is easy to read.

HockeyBuzz.com - NHL Rumors

www.hockeybuzz.com

 

[STL Shark]

He’s only had one season in his career where his goals saved above expected wasn’t severely negative.

GSAA of 0.0, 0.9, 8.6, and -11.7. So like I said, average to above average for 3 years with 1 putrid year.

 

[Jargon]

Guys this summer has been so crazy that I keep checking Twitter because I half expect Grier to have traded for Noah Dobson or something.

 

[TheBigDrunkPanda]

Im not sure how our 6th or 7th ranked prospect expected to be a 3rd line C and a likely late Vegas 1st for a goalie that went 11th overall a few years back and is on every list as top 3 goalie prospect in the world is "massive overpay"

Not that I was high on Edstrom seems like he was thrown in just to throw him in and I posted this before I knew it was a conditional first. So it’s not a massive overpay but still an overpay.

 

[Patty Ice]

Not that I was high on Edstrom seems like he was thrown in just to throw him in and I posted this before I knew it was a conditional first. So it’s not a massive overpay but still an overpay.

I guarantee that Edstrom was not a throw in. Trotz covets all center prospects.

 

[Star Platinum]

Guys this summer has been so crazy that I keep checking Twitter because I half expect Grier to have traded for Noah Dobson or something.

At this point, I pretty much just expect us to get whatever we want

 

[67 others]

Not that I was high on Edstrom seems like he was thrown in just to throw him in and I posted this before I knew it was a conditional first. So it’s not a massive overpay but still an overpay.

Edstrom Is a projected 3C/4C

It's a throw in

 

[Eklund72]

Edstrom Is a projected 3C/4C

It's a throw in

It’s not

 

[Gecklund]

Edstrom Is a projected 3C/4C

It's a throw in

He isn’t but okay. Edstrom is a projected good middle 6 player.

 

[weastern bias]

Good morning

Macklin Celebrini is a Shark
Will Smith is a Shark
Yaroslav Askarov is a Shark

Carry on

 

[67 others]

He isn’t but okay. Edstrom is a projected good middle 6 player.

Projected bottom 6 on most scouting sites I use.
Shark fan optimism was he could be a poor man's 2nd line C if he hits his ceiling and that his floor was "definitely NHL", and most likely 3C".

If you want to find me a source that projects him any higher than 3C with reasoning, ill read it.

He was our 8th or 9th best prospect in a position we are very strong in.

 

[Jargon]

Projected bottom 6 on most scouting sites I use.
Shark fan optimism was he could be a poor man's 2nd line C if he hits his ceiling and that his floor was "definitely NHL", and most likely 3C".

If you want to find me a source that projects him any higher than 3C with reasoning, ill read it.

He was our 8th or 9th best prospect in a position we are very strong in.

I always felt like that was Bystedt’s ceiling - outside chance of a 2nd line C but likeliest option is a good 3C and Edstrom’s ceiling was a really good 3C or a great 4C.

But yes, I agree with you.

 

[Patty Ice]

Projected bottom 6 on most scouting sites I use.
Shark fan optimism was he could be a poor man's 2nd line C if he hits his ceiling and that his floor was "definitely NHL", and most likely 3C".

If you want to find me a source that projects him any higher than 3C with reasoning, ill read it.

He was our 8th or 9th best prospect in a position we are very strong in.

I agree with this assessment but he wasn't a throw in.

Trotz definitely wanted a center prospect in any deal. He values them a lot more than other types.

 

[Gecklund]

Projected bottom 6 on most scouting sites I use.
Shark fan optimism was he could be a poor man's 2nd line C if he hits his ceiling and that his floor was "definitely NHL", and most likely 3C".

If you want to find me a source that projects him any higher than 3C with reasoning, ill read it.

He was our 8th or 9th best prospect in a position we are very strong in.

2023 NHL Entry Draft: Golden Knights select David Edstrom in first round (No. 32)

The Vegas Golden Knights selected center David Edstrom with the No. 32 overall pick in the first round of the 2023 NHL Entry Draft Wednesday night at Bridgestone Arena in Nashville.

www.knightsonice.com

David Edstrom - 2023 NHL Draft Prospect Profile - The Hockey Writers Player Profiles Latest News, Analysis & More

David Edstrom is a big, two-way centerman who has shot up draft boards following his breakout performance at the U18 World Juniors.

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David Edstrom

July 2024 - Edstrom plans to return to the SHL for 2024-25, making the earliest he can crack the Sharks roster the 2025-26 season. An organization still rebuilding, San Jose can afford patience while Edstrom continues his development in Sweden. John Gove March 2024 - Edstrom has been traded to...

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One that took a bunch of scout reports and did cliff notes of that. One that says he could be a top 6 C and one that says he can be a good bottom 6 C (which basically means good 3C OR middle sixer).

But no continue with your story. This board is insane.

Either way, that’s not a throw in.