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Thats a massive overpayment, that being said I can’t wait for the Hodge nuclear meltdown
Thats a massive overpayment, that being said I can’t wait for the Hodge nuclear meltdown
He seems pretty ok with itTh
Thats a massive overpayment, that being said I can’t wait for the Hodge nuclear meltdown
Hodge was advocating for trading Musty. I doubt he thinks it was an overpay.He seems pretty ok with it
Overpay? No, but he would have gone a different route. Understandable.Hodge was advocating for trading Musty. I doubt he thinks it was an overpay.
he just doesnt like Musty and thinks top six wingers are a dime a dozenHodge was advocating for trading Musty. I doubt he thinks it was an overpay.
lol he was bitching at me for suggesting a 1st and Chrona saying it was to muchHodge was advocating for trading Musty. I doubt he thinks it was an overpay.
Do you think he will be? I thought he would basically be a lock for their roster given how much they need cheap talent.I would now really like to grab Kaedan Korczak from Vegas when he is waived. Would basically negate the loss of Emberson and give us a 23 year old big RHD that skates very well and would fill where I projected Emberson. Plus it hurts Vegas which is always a good thing.
Yeah, I'd be shocked if they moved on from him considering their top 2 RD are Petro who's 35 or so and Theodore who's probably gone after the season.Do you think he will be? I thought he would basically be a lock for their roster given how much they need cheap talent.
At this point I'm content with the roster construction.I feel like we collectively willed the Ceci and Askarov trades into existence so I think our next requests to the hockey gods should be Dobson and Pinto.
I meant more for next offseason. I don't think either team has a reason to move those players right now.At this point I'm content with the roster construction.
Dobson is the exact player I think we need and I'd love us to go after him next summer.I feel like we collectively willed the Ceci and Askarov trades into existence so I think our next requests to the hockey gods should be Dobson and Pinto.
It all depends on how we use the cap savings, which was the biggest win from the Hertl trade.So all in all, this mini Hertl trade tree is resulting in:
in:
EDM 2025 3rd, COL 2025 3rd, Ceci, Askarov, Burke
out:
SJ 2025 3rd, SJ 2027 3rd, Hertl (17% retention), Emberson
Not too bad. Still hurts though since Hertl's easily the best player in this but it's a good gamble for the future of the org.
It all depends on how we use the cap savings, which was the biggest win from the Hertl trade.
Not that bold of a prediction but I think we're going to see another huge offseason from Grier next year.
Even looking at it that way, Hertl for Toffoli and Askarov (plus $6.75m in cap space from 2028-30) is a pretty big win for the Sharks. You could easily argue Toffoli is the more impactful player.Not to go all "we used Thornton's cap space to sign Chara and Savard" (even though Sturm, Stuart, and Primeau already had around the same cap hit).... but most of Hertl's $6.75M went to Tofolli. Veteran top 6 for veteran top 6 (32 year old F for ~30.5 year old F) four years. Course the benefit- aside from the risk of Hertl's knees- is moving him out helped the tank. He can come back on an Skinner type deal when Vegas buys him out!
To your broader point, there's a whole lot more caproom in each of the next few years. A lot of that will need to go to raises for Celebrini, Smith, and Eklund. However there's $25M coming off over the next three years (Vlasic, Couture, Jones, Karlsson, Burns, Goodrow) that won't be missed at all from last year's roster. Hopefully Couture makes a valiant recovery, and more importantly can have a great life after hockey. Wennberg, Granlund, Kunin, Ceci, Ferraro, Walman, and Koistin will need to be replaced but that represents another $25M up in two seasons.
I'd see if Eklund and Zetterlund (ideal 5/6th winger) will sign long-term deals that overpay now, but will provide surplus value once Celebrini and Smith are off their ELCs.
Mike grier hf user confirmedI feel like we collectively willed the Ceci and Askarov trades into existence so I think our next requests to the hockey gods should be Dobson and Pinto.
Mike grier hf user confirmed
So all in all, this mini Hertl trade tree is resulting in:
in:
EDM 2025 3rd, COL 2025 3rd, Ceci, Askarov, Burke
out:
SJ 2025 3rd, SJ 2027 3rd, Hertl (17% retention), Emberson
Not too bad. Still hurts though since Hertl's easily the best player in this but it's a good gamble for the future of the org.
I don't really see where they put him. Pietrangelo, Hanifin, Theodore, McNabb, Whitecloud, and Hague are pretty much locks for their top 6 on D. Then they signed Ben Hutton to a 2 year extension as a guy that can play both sides and won't be hurt by sitting in the press box until an injury occurs.Do you think he will be? I thought he would basically be a lock for their roster given how much they need cheap talent.
You're right, it's weird. I'm honestly surprised they haven't traded anyone yet, although I guess Lehner is going to go on LTIR. Their defense is crowded for sure.I don't really see where they put him. Pietrangelo, Hanifin, Theodore, McNabb, Whitecloud, and Hague are pretty much locks for their top 6 on D. Then they signed Ben Hutton to a 2 year extension as a guy that can play both sides and won't be hurt by sitting in the press box until an injury occurs.
So unless an injury happens to one of those guys during camp, I think Korczak is going to pass through waivers and should be someone that we're salivating over using our top waiver priority to grab.
That is where I am coming out. Nashville is in win-now mode and don’t want to rely on Askarov as their backup for 2024/2025. Beyond that, I think any other claims become a whole other level of speculation.Yea its hard to say if Askarov was available in the past because they believed he wasn't progressing as much as they would like or if they would rather just move his value into another position.
You could see the Wedgewood signing both as a signal they thought Askarov wasn't ready to be a backup or that they were just doing cap management as well and delaying paying Askarov.
I still think Askarov screwed up making a big stink this year. IMHO he should have just signed an offer sheet next summer that someone would offer based on potential and either force Nashville to pay him or move on.