Speculation: 2023-24-25 Sharks Roster Discussion
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Jargon
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I sadly don't think we'll be as busy as some think.
LadyStanley
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Jargon
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cheechoo
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The Guentzel trade will be domino #1 and then things will cascade for us.
We will for sure be adding Crosby, malkin, guentzel, McDavid, ullmark, Nylander, hanifin, dahlin.
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ThorNton Apologist
Jumbo needs a cup
I know they say nobody looks good in SJ this year but Granlund has put up decent numbers while being a complete player. He may not have the size and physicality that some GMs overpay for but he’s a guy I would target for a playoff run.
ThorNton Apologist
Jumbo needs a cup
Move him next season if you don’t get the return you want. Not like he’s blocking the spot of any young deserving prospects. He always plays a style of game that I’d want around the youth
Sure. But my point is probably not a lot of teams are looking at him because of the extra year.
LadyStanley
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I am surprised Duclair is that high and Hoffman that low.
Shark Finn
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TL;DR "I don't like the guy, a late pick"
Not that I blame them, but this team surely is in shambles.
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Hodge
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Impossible to overstate what a worthless pile of crap DW left behind.TL;DR "I don't like the guy, a late pick"
Not that I blame them, but this team surely is in shambles.
Jargon
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for the sake of our sanity I do kinda hope Musty and Smith make the team next season. If we also get Celebrini and he’s in, that’s going to be fun to watch even if we still suck.
LadyStanley
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Gecklund
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There is one player on that list that was there when DW was there.
Hodge
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Doesn't change the fact that the only asset Grier inherited of any significance was Timo.
Most rebuilds have the benefit of starting with at least a handful of roster players who can fetch a real return. Treliving didn't even do a great job in Calgary but Conroy still has like five dudes he can trade for high picks and prospects.
What DW left for Grier in terms of overall asset value and cap/contract efficiency was the worst in the history of the cap era which is why this rebuild is probably going to take much longer than others.
Gecklund
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You can draw a direct line from assets acquired under DW and some of the assets on that list. This feels like a huge stretch to put blame on DW when really it was just guys getting older. The crazier thing to me is that there’s one player on that list that Grier wasn’t forced to acquire.
I know we’ve talked about this before but this is my other issue with the length of these contracts Grier is signing. Benning, Burroughs, Sturm, etc. could all have at least a little bit of value at the TDL right now but they still have so much term on their deals that they don’t have value.
Stewie Griffin
What the deuce
On the other hand, Sturm and Benning, when healthy, have actually looked good, and will still have value in their expiring years. I will agree he made a few bad signings like Lindblom in particular. Grier also tried to get some expiring vets like Duclair, and Hoffman to add to his long list of expiring deals like Labanc, Barabanov, Kahkonen, etc. The big problem is most of them have had terrible seasons so there's no value to sell them with.
Next season we might have a few better names like Granlund, Sturm, Rutta, Blackwood, and maybe Ferraro/Benning (who will both have another year left).
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I don't think Rutta or Benning are better than the garbage we have on expiring deals this year. Rutta's a #7 and Benning is a weak #7 (and maybe worse after his injury).
Sturm's also just depth - ideally he's a #12-13 guy on a playoff team, wins faceoffs and PKs but doesn't do a whole lot else. That has some value but not a lot.
I don't think the Sturm signing is a bad one (I do think Benning is, he's awful), but they're not important moves.
Sturm's also just depth - ideally he's a #12-13 guy on a playoff team, wins faceoffs and PKs but doesn't do a whole lot else. That has some value but not a lot.
I don't think the Sturm signing is a bad one (I do think Benning is, he's awful), but they're not important moves.
The improvements for our team will come when our expiring contracts go away and we replace them. We could go up in the standings next year if Grier decides to sign second line level players or second pairing defensemen compared to the replacement level players we’re moving on from. Our issues moving forward is how we outplay other teams’ top players rather than matching their secondary and depth players. We can do that with the right moves that should be available to us but it won’t matter if we can’t outscore the likes of McDavid or Eichel or Pettersson.
