Rumor: 2023-2024 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Off-season is in full swing

[nammerus]

No point responding to that clown. The Avs are clearly in a much better position heading into this season then they were last year.

Tell us more about your super secret private analytics.

 

[Metallo]

Glad we aren't paying him that.



Engels: I’d estimate Alex Newhook is probably looking at a deal that will pay him $3-4 million per season.

Ouch, big ouch.

 

[nammerus]

My “kerfuffle” today was 1 more than I’ve had in my entire 14 year posting history on this board. I’ve reached my limit.

I know @nammerus is the eternal pessimist on this board. To each their own on how they view things. I also know that he does see some good positives from this offseason.

I have no doubt if the Avs did bad moves, or less moves, or didn’t address the massive holes, he’d be here pounding the table significantly more often.

Just looking to have a rational convo with him.

No negatives this offseason can outweigh the positives from losing both Newhook and JTC. On that point, we can both agree on.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Could we afford Boqvist, sundqvist and Foote?

I'd guess it's possible. But I feel unlikely.


Though the further into the summer those guys go without signing, the lower those contracts go.


Tbh I wouldn't want Foote though. He's just not very good. Would take the other two on ~1.5M deals though.

 

[myperbixhurts]

3 or 4 mill for Newhook
5 mill for JTC
7 for Kadri
5.2 for Kuemper

Players get rich after leaving the Avs. They better be thankful

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Could we afford Boqvist, sundqvist and Foote?

We probably can. I think we should try to play with a full roster spot this year since we can't accural cap anyways. Less up and down taking from the Eagles. That means instead of 1x2.5MM guy, let's sign two 775K guys looking to prove themselves. Bury anyone who can't make it at the TDL and get a good depth guy.

 

[Metallo]

The risk on Drouin looks minimal because of his AAV but it's pretty big because we are lacking another top 6er to replace him if he fails (and he's no stranger to failure).

There's also the fact that Ryjo is a reclamation project as well. Those two are penciled in our top 6 and it's risky business.

The Avs absolutely need another ERod type of player who can play anywhere in the top 9. They'll need him even if both Drouin and Ryjo succeed because players WILL get injured next year too.

I was on board for Drouin at league min and penciled as the 13th forward. That top-6 shit is risky AF.

 

[sethro109]

I'd guess it's possible. But I feel unlikely.


Though the further into the summer those guys go without signing, the lower those contracts go.


Tbh I wouldn't want Foote though. He's just not very good. Would take the other two on ~1.5M deals though.

I wouldn't mind a 6'4 24 year old right shooting defenseman on a cheap deal. He'll never be his dad, but there's worse bottom pairing options. With Manson's injury history, some RHD insurance could be a good thing too.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Jonathan Toews would be an exciting add tbh. I have no idea where his heads at, at this point in his career. If he's going to retire, chase one more good pay day, or if he just wants to win another cup.

But if it's the win a cup thing, that would be one hell of a 4C for us. I had no interest in trading for him at the deadline last year to be our 2C, but as a 4C faceoff specialist and a guy that can move up to 3C if/when injuries hit, that would be a great move.


He's 35+ as well so you can give him a bonus heavy deal and have him only count for league minimum this year. $800k base with up to $1.5M in bonuses for playing 25, 50, 75 games with us.

I wouldn't mind a 6'4 24 year old right shooting defenseman on a cheap deal. He'll never be his dad, but there's worse bottom pairing options. With Manson's injury history, some RHD insurance could be a good thing too.

Being big doesn't really matter if you can't actually do anything on the ice though, look no further than MacDermid. And he's an awful skater.


Honestly I think Malinski is going to be great for us. But I wouldn't hate the Avs grabbing a RD for depth and sending MacDermid to the moon, just not Foote. But thats pretty unrealistic I suspect.

 

[NateTheGreat]

Jonathan Toews would be an exciting add tbh. I have no idea where his heads at, at this point in his career. If he's going to retire, chase one more good pay day, or if he just wants to win another cup.

But if it's the win a cup thing, that would be one hell of a 4C for us. I had no interest in trading for him at the deadline last year to be our 2C, but as a 4C faceoff specialist and a guy that can move up to 3C if/when injuries hit, that would be a great move.


He's 35+ as well so you can give him a bonus heavy deal and have him only count for league minimum this year. $800k base with up to $1.5M in bonuses for playing 25, 50, 75 games with us.

Toews would fit like a glove on this team. I would be jumping for joy if we signed him. Most disagree on him around here but I would have zero concerns about him were he to decide to keep playing. That is a veteran you can win cups with playing in your bottom 6.

Spare me the convo regarding what happened with the Blackhawks organization. That is not on him and completely unfair to put it on his shoulders.

 

[myperbixhurts]

There just isn’t much left in free agency for the Avs. Im not sure if Avs have all their draft picks next year, but if they have a 2nd, 3rd they can use those to bring in a 3rd pair D and another bottom 6 forwards

 

[sethro109]

Jonathan Toews would be an exciting add tbh. I have no idea where his heads at, at this point in his career. If he's going to retire, chase one more good pay day, or if he just wants to win another cup.

But if it's the win a cup thing, that would be one hell of a 4C for us. I had no interest in trading for him at the deadline last year to be our 2C, but as a 4C faceoff specialist and a guy that can move up to 3C if/when injuries hit, that would be a great move.


He's 35+ as well so you can give him a bonus heavy deal and have him only count for league minimum this year. $800k base with up to $1.5M in bonuses for playing 25, 50, 75 games with us.


Being big doesn't really matter if you can't actually do anything on the ice though, look no further than MacDermid. And he's an awful skater.


Honestly I think Malinski is going to be great for us. But I wouldn't hate the Avs grabbing a RD for depth and sending MacDermid to the moon, just not Foote. But thats pretty unrealistic I suspect.

Looking at the list of free agent right shooting defenseman, there's not a lot of options.

 

[Balthazar]

I'd take Jonathan Toews as a 4C for cheap anytime too.

EJ and Landy will be out of the room and guys with questionable work ethic will come in...more leadership can't hurt.

 

[Mighty Makar]

I want Toews, too, but want Devon signed first.

 

[Balthazar]

Looking at the list of free agent right shooting defenseman, there's not a lot of options.
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Only the first 2 are NHL caliber...and we're not even 100% sure with Bear.

I'd have liked Dumba if we'd have traded Girard. Makar, Dumba and Manson on the right side would be nice...but can't afford him because we really need a 3rd liner.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

There just isn’t much left in free agency for the Avs. Im not sure if Avs have all their draft picks next year, but if they have a 2nd, 3rd they can use those to bring in a 3rd pair D and another bottom 6 forwards

This isn't true at all.


There's a crazy number of solid UFAs still unsigned that would help this team a lot.

 

[sethro109]

Only the first 2 are NHL caliber...and we're not even 100% sure with Bear.

I'd have liked Dumba if we'd have traded Girard. Makar, Dumba and Manson on the right side would be nice...but can't afford him because we really need a 3rd liner.

I still think Foote would be fine for a competing spot with Malinski on the bottom pairing, and if Manson goes down again, he'll fill that spot fine.

 

[myperbixhurts]

This isn't true at all.


There's a crazy number of solid UFAs still unsigned that would help this team a lot.

Like who?

 

[tigervixxxen]

3 or 4 mill for Newhook
5 mill for JTC
7 for Kadri
5.2 for Kuemper

Players get rich after leaving the Avs. They better be thankful

Winning the Cup might be a part of those prices too.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Dumba ain’t coming to Colorado to play 13 minutes a night. There has to be better opportunities for him out there. Crazier things have happened, but I don’t see why he’d do it.

Suter, Sundqvist, Tatar, Motte, and Nosek are guys I like.

I thought Toews was retiring? I’d take him for cheap too.

 

[Mighty Makar]

Toews or Motte would be cool.

 

[myperbixhurts]

Winning the Cup might be a part of those prices too.

The cup absolutely helps, but they also put up career numbers with the Avs which gets them paid

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Like who?

Off the tip of my head without even looking at a list:

Tarasenko
Kane
Toews
Tatar
Sundqvist
Suter
Boqvist
Bailey
Motte
Parise
Zadina
Kessel

Literally any of these guys would boost the lineup. Some of them would be 4th line upgrades, some of them would be top line upgrades.

 

[myperbixhurts]

Off the tip of my head without even looking at a list:

Tarasenko
Kane
Toews
Tatar
Sundqvist
Suter
Boqvist
Bailey
Motte
Parise
Zadina
Kessel

Literally any of these guys would boost the lineup. Some of them would be 4th line upgrades, some of them would be top line upgrades.

Seriously none of those names fit with the Avs. Tarasenko if he came cheap maybe, but even then, you move Lehky down to 3rd line, all of a sudden your top 6 has two players who are bad defensively in Drouin and Tarasenko. The top line gets weaker defensively if let’s say you put Tarasenko with MacK and Mikko. The rest of those guys are just 20, 30 point small forwards. Maybe Tatar would be an option but Sakic said they want to get grittier. None of those players provide much grit or size. Sundqvist has size I guess but I just don’t know. None of those names excite me. Rather go with trades

 

[Mighty Makar]

I want Kassian!