Rumor: 2023-2024 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Off-season is in full swing

[myperbixhurts]

Yeah sure sounds like they are pretty much done with this offseason.

Very disappointing. Not sure why they continue to ignore huge holes every season. Last year it was 2C, this year it's Landy replacement. Essentially we are rolling into next year with the same problem a missing top 6 forward.

Also not sure why they continue to think they can pay 5M to Girard when he doesn't PK and plays 2nd unit PP, and is basically 3rd pairing behind Makar, Toews, Byram and Manson.

They could replace Landy and spent that whole 7 mill on one player (top 6 winger) but then their bottom 6 depth would be shit, and they probably wouldn’t have a 2C again. There is still a trade deadline, im sure CMac will pick up couple of more pieces in March via trades

 

[MacKaRtin]

Yeah sure sounds like they are pretty much done with this offseason.

Very disappointing. Not sure why they continue to ignore huge holes every season. Last year it was 2C, this year it's Landy replacement. Essentially we are rolling into next year with the same problem a missing top 6 forward.

Also not sure why they continue to think they can pay 5M to Girard when he doesn't PK and plays 2nd unit PP, and is basically 3rd pairing behind Makar, Toews, Byram and Manson.

What "Landy replacement" do you suggest we get with the $2-3M on cap space we have left? We added two top six forwards this off-season in Drouin and Johansen and strengthened our third line with Colton and Wood. That's 4 spots in the top 9 forwards that we've tried to upgrade on this off-season. After all the issues we had with Seattle's depth, it makes sense.

 

[Mighty Makar]

We re-signed Nate 7 years ago to the day. Hopefully some news on Toews soon.

 

[myperbixhurts]

What "Landy replacement" do you suggest we get with the $2-3M on cap space we have left? We added two top six forwards this off-season in Drouin and Johansen and strengthened our third line with Colton and Wood. That's 4 spots in the top 9 forwards that we've tried to upgrade on this off-season. After all the issues we had with Seattle's depth, it makes sense.

Also it’s smart to keep the remaining cap space for trade deadline in case Drouin doesn’t produce or whatever else they need half way into the season.

 

[shadow1]

Sounds a lot like his trade deadline schpeel on Altitude. Wishful empty promises.

Translation: Nobody's taking my calls so I've accomplished all that I'm able to accomplish here. It's all on the young guys now to show us what they got.

The Avalanche have been involved in literally 25% (4/16) of the trades in the entire NHL since June 15th, aka the day after Vegas won the Stanley Cup.

The MacFarland interview was over 10 minutes long, and he said the club is still engaged in discussions with free agents and other teams. You're blowing the comment about Malinski/Myers/Olausson out of proportion.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Here’s the thing, MacKinnon’s line is going to eat whoever is on his wing. He’s one of the best play-driving forces in the NHL. Drouin and Nichushkin? That’s more than enough for MacK.

Rantanen will eat regardless of who he plays with, as we saw last year with JT3C. If they put him with Johansen and Lekhonen, that’s a pretty damn good second line.

The Avs need sustained pressure from the 3rd line and I think they have a better shot at this year with Colton/Wood and whoever the last addition is. Imo Colton is the best bottom-6er this team has had in a long time.

The defence and goaltending remain essentially the same. The defence might actually get better if Byram takes a step forward and Manson gets back to being a NHL defenceman.

I do find it funny how everyone was excited about the additions and then Toronto went and signed a bunch of forwards to one year deals and a lot of people changed their minds. Meanwhile their defence is still subpar.

 

[CobraAcesS]

Also it’s smart to keep the remaining cap space for trade deadline in case Drouin doesn’t produce or whatever else they need half way into the season.

I also think it's smart to see what you have in some of the ELCs that are coming due. They provide needed depth, and as far as I see it the big minutes are going to be given to the right level of players that have a history of handling it.

I don’t really want to see our core playing stupid minutes to cover for the lack of trustworthy depth either. A couple spots in the bottom half of the roster to try some younger players should be fine for a bit.

The thing I want most is another right shot D. Totally get leaving the door unlocked for Malinski, but not wide open and penciled into the lineup.

 

[0BGYN Kenobi]

Additionally, the Red Wings were scouting the Avs heavily in the lead up to the deadline. In fact, they had scouts in Denver with the trade deadline less than a week away. That fact alone leads me to believe it's at least a possibility.

I don't remember hearing Detroit was scouting the Avs at all last year. Do you have a source for this 'fact'?

 

[PAZ]

I also think it's smart to see what you have in some of the ELCs that are coming due. They provide needed depth, and as far as I see it the big minutes are going to be given to the right level of players that have a history of handling it.

I don’t really want to see our core playing stupid minutes to cover for the lack of trustworthy depth either. A couple spots in the bottom half of the roster to try some younger players should be fine for a bit.

The thing I want most is another right shot D. Totally get leaving the door unlocked for Malinski, but not wide open and penciled into the lineup.

D is not a huge concern to me. Bednar trusts JMFJ if Malinski doesn’t work out and G, Makar, Toews, and Byram can all comfortably eat 20+ minutes a night. If our forwards core is good, the Avs can make any depth defensemen look good for a short period of time.

My concern is still the forward depth. I like it more than last year, but injuries will inevitably happen. If one of Mack/RyJo/Rants/Nuke go down, it really messes with the lines. The ELCs will have plenty of chances to prove themselves without pencilling a spot in for them.

Colton can easily fill in the top 6, but then there’s a huge gaping hole at #3C. We either need another winger than can fill into the top 6, or a #3C so Colton can get bumped up.

 

[chet1926]

What "Landy replacement" do you suggest we get with the $2-3M on cap space we have left? We added two top six forwards this off-season in Drouin and Johansen and strengthened our third line with Colton and Wood. That's 4 spots in the top 9 forwards that we've tried to upgrade on this off-season. After all the issues we had with Seattle's depth, it makes sense.

Lol Drouin is not a top 6er, they are trying to cheap out and pray that Drouin will magically work with 29.

But let's be honest Drouin scored 2 goals last year with what 27pts, plus he got benched multiple times by St Louis. He's going to have to do a 180 to even be close to top 6er.

 

[myperbixhurts]

D is not a huge concern to me. Bednar trusts JMFJ if Malinski doesn’t work out and G, Makar, Toews, and Byram can all comfortably eat 20+ minutes a night. If our forwards core is good, the Avs can make any depth defensemen look good for a short period of time.

My concern is still the forward depth. I like it more than last year, but injuries will inevitably happen. If one of Mack/RyJo/Rants/Nuke go down, it really messes with the lines. The ELCs will have plenty of chances to prove themselves without pencilling a spot in for them.

Colton can easily fill in the top 6, but then there’s a huge gaping hole at #3C. We either need another winger than can fill into the top 6, or a #3C so Colton can get bumped up.

Are we completely writing Meyers off? I mean isn’t there a chance he can take step forward next season and be a legit 4C option? CMac has plenty of time to get more help, specially on bottom 6.

He doesn’t have to get everything done right now in the offseason. He can still pick up players or trade for players anytime during the season. It’s smart to give guys like Meyers a chance before making more moves. Although Meyers isn’t even signed right now so we’ll see

 

[The Moops]

Lol Drouin is not a top 6er, they are trying to cheap out and pray that Drouin will magically work with 29.

But let's be honest Drouin scored 2 goals last year with what 27pts, plus he got benched multiple times by St Louis. He's going to have to do a 180 to even be close to top 6er.

Yeah the Druin signing is a huge reclamation project. Could go either way, but I hope CMac doesn't sit on his hands this year if he sees it's not working out again

 

[EdAVSfan]

Lol Drouin is not a top 6er, they are trying to cheap out and pray that Drouin will magically work with 29.

But let's be honest Drouin scored 2 goals last year with what 27pts, plus he got benched multiple times by St Louis. He's going to have to do a 180 to even be close to top 6er.

What’s with the big fascination of strictly replacing Landeskog?

The Avs have added 2 centres that slot properly. They were already a top 10 offense last year without Landeskog the whole season. They’re arguably stronger offensively, and even if you don’t love Drouin, he’s still very much capable of putting up 50ish points.

There’s more than enough offense already.

And Drouin in St Louis???? Just admit you don’t really know much about him other than what you’ve read here, and what hockeydb says.

 

[Balthazar]

Glad we aren't paying him that.



Engels: I’d estimate Alex Newhook is probably looking at a deal that will pay him $3-4 million per season.

 

[MacKaRtin]

Glad we aren't paying him that.



Engels: I’d estimate Alex Newhook is probably looking at a deal that will pay him $3-4 million per season.

Imagine if they give him the Kotkaniemi special. They won't, but...

 

[CobraAcesS]

D is not a huge concern to me. Bednar trusts JMFJ if Malinski doesn’t work out and G, Makar, Toews, and Byram can all comfortably eat 20+ minutes a night. If our forwards core is good, the Avs can make any depth defensemen look good for a short period of time.

My concern is still the forward depth. I like it more than last year, but injuries will inevitably happen. If one of Mack/RyJo/Rants/Nuke go down, it really messes with the lines. The ELCs will have plenty of chances to prove themselves without pencilling a spot in for them.

Colton can easily fill in the top 6, but then there’s a huge gaping hole at #3C. We either need another winger than can fill into the top 6, or a #3C so Colton can get bumped up.

Injuries will happen to both the D and the Forwards. Manson is also a real concern.

 

[nammerus]

What’s with the big fascination of strictly replacing Landeskog?

The Avs have added 2 centres that slot properly. They were already a top 10 offense last year without Landeskog the whole season. They’re arguably stronger offensively, and even if you don’t love Drouin, he’s still very much capable of putting up 50ish points.

There’s more than enough offense already.

And Drouin in St Louis???? Just admit you don’t really know much about him other than what you’ve read here, and what hockeydb says.

Martin. St. Louis.

The coach of the Montreal Canadians.

 

[myperbixhurts]

It really would be a big mistake to spend all the cap space right now and not have any at the trade deadline. If they get another bottom 6 forward and bottom pair D right now spending all the cap space, what do they do mid season if Drouin doesn’t produce and they need someone at that spot? Trade Girard for a top 6 winger? Then who replaces Girard?

Right now the Avs roster is good enough to go through the season until March then they’ll have a better idea what they’re lacking and what they need.

 

[SoftMittsHardSticks]

Delete

 

[missionAvs]

What’s with the big fascination of strictly replacing Landeskog?

The Avs have added 2 centres that slot properly. They were already a top 10 offense last year without Landeskog the whole season. They’re arguably stronger offensively, and even if you don’t love Drouin, he’s still very much capable of putting up 50ish points.

There’s more than enough offense already.

And Drouin in St Louis???? Just admit you don’t really know much about him other than what you’ve read here, and what hockeydb says.

Ummm...

 

[Balthazar]

he got benched multiple times by St Louis.

Drouin in St Louis???? Just admit you don’t really know much about him

Martin. St. Louis.

The coach of the Montreal Canadians.

ok that was pretty funny.

 

[CobraAcesS]

It really would be a big mistake to spend all the cap space right now and not have any at the trade deadline. If they get another bottom 6 forward and bottom pair D right now spending all the cap space, what do they do mid season if Drouin doesn’t produce and they need someone at that spot? Trade Girard for a top 6 winger? Then who replaces Girard?

Right now the Avs roster is good enough to go through the season until March then they’ll have a better idea what they’re lacking and what they need.

We should probably trade Girard now, and find someone cheaper for the role, but I just have a feeling that's more difficult than it sounds.

 

[chet1926]

What’s with the big fascination of strictly replacing Landeskog?

The Avs have added 2 centres that slot properly. They were already a top 10 offense last year without Landeskog the whole season. They’re arguably stronger offensively, and even if you don’t love Drouin, he’s still very much capable of putting up 50ish points.

There’s more than enough offense already.

And Drouin in St Louis???? Just admit you don’t really know much about him other than what you’ve read here, and what hockeydb says.

Martin St Louis was his coach in Montreal you dumbass, not where he played. If you are going to try and mock me at least get your facts right.

Drouin has hit 50 only what 2 times ever in his career, and is notorious for having motivation and injury issues. Any way you slice this move it is completely a reclamation project that management is hoping 29 pulls out of his ass.

I don't need hockeydb to tell me that Drouin has been largely underwhelming his whole career, and this is very risky move that could be great or completely misfire.

 

[myperbixhurts]

We should probably trade Girard now, and find someone cheaper for the role, but I just have a feeling that's more difficult than it sounds.

Yeah and that’s definitely not a trade deadline move to make

 

[Bill Peckerskull]