Rumor: 2023-2024 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Off-season is in full swing

[Avaholic29]

Buccigross re-Tweeted it

If he’s dirt cheap the reward might be worth the risk, just have to literally hope he’s healthy at the part of the season that matters lol can use LTIR if needed. Not ideal but patches does have the talent and he fits the do what it takes to win before my body fails picture.

 

[sethro109]

Since Landy will presumably be on LTIR all season long, does that mean we can't accumulate any cap space next season? With our roster needs there's no way we only keep him on normal IR right?

 

[Goulet17]

MaxPac tore his achilles in August of 2022, had surgery, and then tore the same achilles tendon on January 20, 2023, two weeks after his return to the lineup. He tore it again as a non-contact injury on the ice. He was just stopping and starting on his skates.

It was reported at the time that his recovery would be at least 8 to 9 months as of late January 2023. He turns 35 in November. I would be very surprised if he plays again.

Even for Dater, this is an extraordinary level of stupid.

 

[Mighty Makar]

He’s a bandaid, so he’ll fit right in. We’ll most likely trade for Monahan at the deadline, too.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

MaxPac tore his achilles in August of 2022, had surgery, and then tore the same achilles tendon two on January 20, 2023, two weeks after his return to the lineup. He tore it again as a non-contact injury on the ice. He was just stopping and starting on his skates.

It was reported at the time that his recovery would be at least 8 to 9 months as of late January 2023. He turns 35 in November. I would be very surprised if he plays again.

Even for Dater, this is an extraordinary level of stupid.

It's a deal that makes plenty of sense for the Avs tbh. Pretty low risk with some possibly huge rewards.

 

[Balthazar]

 

[MacKaRtin]

Even for Dater, this is an extraordinary level of stupid.

Honestly, I'd rather bring Forsberg back for another go.

Since Landy will presumably be on LTIR all season long, does that mean we can't accumulate any cap space next season? With our roster needs there's no way we only keep him on normal IR right?

We will be over the salary cap easily as long as Byram and Colton sign. We'll need to use LTIR on Landy from day 1. As I understand it, that means we'll be in a money in / money out situation throughout the season.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Predictions for Avs UFA:

Sign Jonathan Drouin 1 year, 1M
Sign Jesper Fast 2 years, 2.25M
Sign Andrew Cogliano 1 year, 1.25M
Sign John Klingberg 1 year, 2.5M
Sign Mattias Janmark 1 year, 1.5M

Not what I'd prefer but those are my predictions. Avs head into the season with:

Drouin - MacKinnon - Nichushkin
Lehkonen - Johansen - Rantanen
Janmark - Colton - Fast
Cogliano - Meyers - O'Connor

Toews - Makar
Byram - Manson
Girard - Klingberg

Georgiev
Francouz

Leaves ~7M to re-sign Colton and Byram.

With the exception of Drouin, that's not half bad. I don't mind Drouin, especially at that prove it price. I just question not having better competition for a top-six forward position. But the cap is the cap and there's not a whole lot left to work.

 

[Avs_19]

Is this the summer the Avs land former analytics darling and annual playoff disappointment, Tomas Tatar?

 

[expatriatedtexan]

And what happens if a team comes and offer sheets Byram for 7 mil per?

I don't think we can sign anyone until Colton and Byram sign their RFA deals. We can't risk an offer sheet.

You match and figure it out after the fact via trade. You don't let them win. But then you trade his ass for the biggest haul you can if you're a guy who was cursed to get eaten by a big fat snake.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Honestly, I'd rather bring Forsberg back for another go.



We will be over the salary cap easily as long as Byram and Colton sign. We'll need to use LTIR on Landy from day 1. As I understand it, that means we'll be in a money in / money out situation throughout the season.

Yeah pretty much. No accumulation but if they don't use all of the LTIR space then they can still use whatever is left of that.


IE let's say the Avs use $6.4/7M of that space. At the deadline they could trade a $1M player and bring in a $1.6M player.

 

[Bender]

Predictions for Avs UFA:

Sign Jonathan Drouin 1 year, 1M
Sign Jesper Fast 2 years, 2.25M
Sign Andrew Cogliano 1 year, 1.25M
Sign John Klingberg 1 year, 2.5M
Sign Mattias Janmark 1 year, 1.5M

Not what I'd prefer but those are my predictions. Avs head into the season with:

Drouin - MacKinnon - Nichushkin
Lehkonen - Johansen - Rantanen
Janmark - Colton - Fast
Cogliano - Meyers - O'Connor

Toews - Makar
Byram - Manson
Girard - Klingberg

Georgiev
Francouz

Leaves ~7M to re-sign Colton and Byram.

I think Fast is going to want more than that. Solid player and he had a great playoff. I think he'd be looking at $3M per and I could see some team give it to him.

I'll be surprised if the Avs re-sign Cogliano for that much. I think the bump in salary was his sort of 'Stanley Cup bonus' but now with the Avs against the cap, I think they'll offer him a 1-way 850k/900k deal. At his age, it's certainly not an insult... a lot of team just move on when players reach a certain 'mileage'.

The guy I think the Avs are going to sign is Engvall. He really flashed with the Islanders at times this year.

I'm not the biggest Klingberg fan but if that's the deal he'd be willing to take, sign me up.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Is this the summer the Avs land former analytics darling and annual playoff disappointment, Tomas Tatar?

Nothing former about it. He just had a fantastic season quite frankly.

 

[Avs_19]

Nothing former about it. He just had a fantastic season quite frankly.

Yeah, true. He usually performs well in the regular season and has always seemed like a fit here. However, the playoff resume is just way too hard to ignore and make excuses for at this point.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

I can’t stand Tatar, yet I’d still take him over any version of Pacioretty in 2023. Yikes.

 

[Frenchy]

Buccigross re-Tweeted it

i hope he's wrong. Even when Patch scored 40goals with Montreal , i was like : How ? 40 goals and he's invisible on the ice all the time , doesnt look like he's giving any effort, always floating.

Now, on top of that, it's injuries on top of injuries.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[Avsboy]

A very Avs thing to do is sign both MaxPac and Drouin and rotate them in and out from serious injuries throughout the season without using a dime of LTIR space. Then win the Cup without the asterisk.

 

[myperbixhurts]

Dater with his usual random nonsense. Where the hell did he hear Pacioretty to Avs?

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Dater with his usual random nonsense. Where the hell did he hear Pacioretty to Avs?

From the kids he was ubering to school.

 

[forsbergavs32]

Dater with his usual random nonsense. Where the hell did he hear Pacioretty to Avs?

The voices in his head again

 

[myperbixhurts]

The voices in his head again

I really think Dater goes to bed at nights, makes stuff up in his head, and reports them the next day

 

[dahrougem2]

Pacioretty has had 2 major achilles tears. I admire the perseverance but his career is finished.

I think Fast is going to want more than that. Solid player and he had a great playoff. I think he'd be looking at $3M per and I could see some team give it to him.

I'll be surprised if the Avs re-sign Cogliano for that much. I think the bump in salary was his sort of 'Stanley Cup bonus' but now with the Avs against the cap, I think they'll offer him a 1-way 850k/900k deal. At his age, it's certainly not an insult... a lot of team just move on when players reach a certain 'mileage'.

The guy I think the Avs are going to sign is Engvall. He really flashed with the Islanders at times this year.

I'm not the biggest Klingberg fan but if that's the deal he'd be willing to take, sign me up.

See I think Engvall will get even more than Fast will because of his age, size and skating.

He is my favourite player from this UFA class but I think some team happily hands him 4x4.

 

[forsbergavs32]

Isn’t Domi UFA? Do we finally get out guy?

 

[shadow1]

Dater was right about Colorado re-signing Josh Manson last year. Whether or not he was pulling the Manson rumors out of thin air, it was a drum he was beating for several days when no one else was. In other words, you can't completely discount what he says.

I think Paccioretty is a huge risk. Just so the injury history is clear, he was mostly healthy in 2021 (48/56), then missed time in 2022 with mid-season wrist surgery. The achilles injury seemingly first appeared in the 2022 off-season, and then obviously again a second time in-season.

It's a big gamble to rely on a 34-year-old with two achilles surgeries in the last 12 months in a top-6 role. Even more-so for the Avalanche, who apparently play their home games on the site of an ancient Indian burial ground. I can't even find any information on whether Paccioretty will be ready to go at the start of the season.