Rumor: 2023-2024 Trade Rumors and Free Agency: Off-season is in full swing

[shadow1]

I think of I remember correctly didn't they have to trade Cole for cap purposes ?

Colorado did save money in the deal, but I'm not sure if that was the main driver...

• (MIN) Cole $4.25M (800K retained)
• (COL) Pateryn $2.25M

Overall they saved $1.2M in the deal. Pateryn was buried in the AHL eventually too, and then dealt to SJ. So it definitely saved the team money one way or the other.

 

[Foppa2118]

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Hard to be an ASU fan these days....I mean Coyotes fan.

 

[Alienblood]

Colorado did save money in the deal, but I'm not sure if that was the main driver...

• (MIN) Cole $4.25M (800K retained)
• (COL) Pateryn $2.25M

Overall they saved $1.2M in the deal. Pateryn was buried in the AHL eventually too, and then dealt to SJ. So it definitely saved the team money one way or the other.

weren't they having problems icing a full roster or something ?

 

[myperbixhurts]

Hard to be an ASU fan these days....I mean Coyotes fan.

We got Logan Cooley, we don’t need Matthews

 

[shadow1]

weren't they having problems icing a full roster or something ?

I remember Colorado being extremely close to the cap early in the season, but I also remember Cole being healthy scratched.

Here are MacKinnon's comments at the time. I think the financial aspect was a bigger element than I remember:

"'Colesy' was a warrior," Avalanche captain Nathan MacKinnon said after a 3-2 win at the Los Angeles Kings. "Obviously, he's a Cup champion. It's a tough business. I'm sure he was just ready to nap, he was in the lineup tonight and got moved. It's just a financial thing, I'm assuming. We're pretty tight against the [NHL salary] cap ($81.5 million), and I guess (general manager) Joe [Sakic] had to make a tough decision. Obviously it's hard to lose a guy like Colesy. Everyone loved Colesy, and he brought a lot to our team, a lot of grit and toughness and great penalty killer. Just a good hockey player, so it's obviously tough to lose him."​

 

[Foppa2118]

We got Logan Cooley, we don’t need Matthews

You know things are bad in Arizona when Shane Doan leaves. Dude wouldn't even leave to win a Stanley Cup.

 

[myperbixhurts]

You know things are bad in Arizona when Shane Doan leaves. Dude wouldn't even leave to win a Stanley Cup.

Maybe he just doesn’t like college girls

 

[Bender]

Hard to be an ASU fan these days....I mean Coyotes fan.

We'll see. In all likelihood he resigns with the leafs for a boatload of money and shorter term than they'd like but until that deal is signed, there's always a chance he rides off into next summer as a UFA. I remember reading similar headlines with Tavares about Long Island.

 

[Foppa2118]

We'll see. In all likelihood he resigns with the leafs for a boatload of money and shorter term than they'd like but until that deal is signed, there's always a chance he rides off into next summer as a UFA. I remember reading similar headlines with Tavares about Long Island.

Yeah I mostly meant that as a needle for the_fan. He certainly worded it with the standard, almost meaningless answer that he wants to stay, not that he will stay.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

You guys made me remember the Vegas series, I’m gonna make you remember this…….
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That is just mean!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[The Puckhound]

The one thing I will never, ever forget about game 6. Was f***ing Graves shooting right into Mark Stone !TWICE! even though he had MacK and Makar open on both sides of him.

I still have a dent in my apartment wall from throwing my phone when Graves shooting into Stone's shin pads for the 7th time that game led to the breakaway goal lol

 

[Foppa2118]

I still have a dent in my apartment wall from throwing my phone when Graves shooting into Stone's shin pads for the 7th time that game led to the breakaway goal lol

You were angry and frustrated with no passing options and even you only managed to hit the wall once.

 

[The Kingslayer]

The one thing I will never, ever forget about game 6. Was f***ing Graves shooting right into Mark Stone !TWICE! even though he had MacK and Makar open on both sides of him.

Wanted to be the hero. Glad I never have to see him joining a rush while Makar stayed home to defend. I hate Graves more then Como

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Graves trying to be some kind of offensive weapon while paired with Makar was infuriating.

Just defend and let the offensive powerhouse take care of the rest.

 

[Ararana]

 

[The Abusement Park]

I think if I remember correctly didn't they have to trade Cole for cap purposes ?

Yeah. In hindsight they didn’t cuz EJ got injured long term right after the trade, but you’re correct.

 

[NateTheGreat]

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This was a repressed memory. I still don’t want to believe what ended up happening here. What a photo.

 

[The Moops]

This was a repressed memory. I still don’t want to believe what ended up happening here. What a photo.

And then torched by Marc "My back is worse than an 80 year olds" Stone

 

[Ararana]

This was a repressed memory. I still don’t want to believe what ended up happening here. What a photo.

That was the moment the series was lost. Everyone knew it. f***ing Ryan Graves...

 

[NateTheGreat]

That was the moment the series was lost. Everyone knew it. f***ing Ryan Graves...

It’s all coming back to me, the pain, the anger, the confusion. It’s as if Graves thought he was going to have his moment…well he sure did.

 

[redacted]

The amount of hate people put on Graves and Grubi is unreal.

 

[NateTheGreat]

The amount of hate people put on Graves and Grubi is unreal.

Is it okay with you if people are mad about a specific play in which Graves very clearly made the wrong decision?

Didn’t mention anything about his tenure with the Avs, we are referencing one single play. I’m not putting hate on him. It’s expressing emotions that were felt at the time which is a completely normal thing for fans to do.

 

[myperbixhurts]

Is it me or does Graves gets overrated? He’s not a bad player, but it seems like they make him out to be this great top 4 d-man

 

[redacted]

Is it okay with you if people are mad about a specific play in which Graves very clearly made the wrong decision?

Didn’t mention anything about his tenure with the Avs, we are referencing one single play. I’m not putting hate on him. It’s expressing emotions that were felt at the time which is a completely normal thing for fans to do.

First, I'm making a general comment... not directly at you.

Second, I'm not in a position or don't care to be in a position to declare what it okay or not. Is it okay with you that I comment on what I'd call unreasonable hatred of a player?

Third, why don't people talk about MacKinnon, Rants, and Makar combining for 1 goal and 2 assists in games 3-5 in that series? It is always Graves screwed up, Grubi forgot how to play goalie, Bednar got significantly outcoached, etc (all of which play into it)... but those 3 are expected to carry the team and frankly didn't show up nearly enough in that series.

 

[sethro109]

Is it okay with you if people are mad about a specific play in which Graves very clearly made the wrong decision?

Didn’t mention anything about his tenure with the Avs, we are referencing one single play. I’m not putting hate on him. It’s expressing emotions that were felt at the time which is a completely normal thing for fans to do.

No, no. He's right when referring to me. I f***ing hated Graves. That dumbass really thought he was something special. Makar propped that infuriating puck hog up so much, that POS is now signed to one of the worst contracts in the NHL. I cheered for him when he was a bottom pairing guy. I was a naive idiot. He just became a shift killing moron.