Prospect Info: 2023-2024 Rangers Prospects Thread (Prospect Stats in Post #1; Updated 05.22.2024)

[Clark Kellogg]

Don't think @nyr2k2 is doing it anymore and is moving on from the site. At least I think that's what he said, if i'm wrong hopefully he can clarify.

Hope he changes his mind but I would understand if he does.
He performs a thankless service.

 

[eco's bones]

Nothing for Barker tonight in a 3-1 win, but Roobroeck had 1 goal and 3 assists in a 6-4 win. He's up to 61 points in 62 games.

Roobroeck's having a nice season. He's another 6'7 guy. His brother is quite the prospect too. I think he's eligible for the 2025 draft.

Speaking of his brother Ryan he actually isn't eligible for the draft until 2026 but he's put up 40 some points this year already for the Niagara team in the OHL which is pretty impressive for a 16 year old.

 

[eco's bones]

Am watching too. That 2nd goal was impressive. I like the way he plays. He attacks and has a good motor and he uses his stick well. sneaky skill. Seems like his style is translatable to pro. Hard to know if it's NHL or just the A. But I am very intrigued. He 10000000% needs to be signed. He is quickly becoming one of my fave prospects. He's got a little Trocheck and Brodzinski in him. But not sure he has the same kind of shot.

I am a little concerned with his leaned over style of skating. But otherwise, I'm impressed.

We're seeing it with Berard too now....that as the season progresses that he and Laba are carrying their teams and more and more they are getting the big goals and making the big plays for their teams. That's a particular quality that I like to see from a player. They always show up and consistently have good games.

 

[Raspewtin]

Laba's a big man

 

[gravey9]

We're seeing it with Berard too now....that as the season progresses that he and Laba are carrying their teams and more and more they are getting the big goals and making the big plays for their teams. That's a particular quality that I like to see from a player. They always show up and consistently have good games.

What Berard is starting to do in this second half of the season is in many ways more impressive than Barron or Cuylle. Berard has figured out how to bring his high motor, high impact game to the AHL level. He's not just finishing. he's also making his own opportunities happen. It's not Chytil level, who was insane in the AHL. But it's very impressive. Given our depth at the NHL, we don't really have room for him, but maybe we can find a spot for him to get 1 or 2 games before the end of the year. Unlikely, but he deserves a little reward here at the end of the year just give him a little extra motivation.

In part because he spent 2 seasons in college hockey, his game was far more mature than Othmann's. I know Othmann played in the swiss league a few years back, but he's honestly not fully figured out how to translate his game at the pro level yet. His transition is a bit like Laf's in that he's got a bunch of work to do away from the puck and he doesn't really keep his feet moving enough 5v5. It's going to take time with him. He cannot become a PP specialist, who can lay a big hit here and there, with a fantastic shot. He needs to be a bit more of a wrecking ball and it's just possible that he needs to fill out a bit more for that to happen. Othmann doesn't look so big in the pros. He looks a bit small rn. The thing is, he can't just go and bulk up. He needs to work on his speed first and foremost and getting there when he's hunting pucks.

 

[cwede]

What Berard is starting to do in this second half of the season is in many ways more impressive than Barron or Cuylle. Berard has figured out how to bring his high motor, high impact game to the AHL level. He's not just finishing. he's also making his own opportunities happen. It's not Chytil level, who was insane in the AHL. But it's very impressive. Given our depth at the NHL, we don't really have room for him, but maybe we can find a spot for him to get 1 or 2 games before the end of the year. Unlikely, but he deserves a little reward here at the end of the year just give him a little extra motivation.

In part because he spent 2 seasons in college hockey, his game was far more mature than Othmann's. I know Othmann played in the swiss league a few years back, but he's honestly not fully figured out how to translate his game at the pro level yet. His transition is a bit like Laf's in that he's got a bunch of work to do away from the puck and he doesn't really keep his feet moving enough 5v5. It's going to take time with him. He cannot become a PP specialist, who can lay a big hit here and there, with a fantastic shot. He needs to be a bit more of a wrecking ball and it's just possible that he needs to fill out a bit more for that to happen. Othmann doesn't look so big in the pros. He looks a bit small rn. The thing is, he can't just go and bulk up. He needs to work on his speed first and foremost and getting there when he's hunting pucks.

Agreed he's earned a look-see w big club
Restriction on post TDL recalls should not apply to guys on ELCs
But it does, so NYR need to be prudent, til last weeks of regular season, just in case

 

[kovazub94]

What Berard is starting to do in this second half of the season is in many ways more impressive than Barron or Cuylle. Berard has figured out how to bring his high motor, high impact game to the AHL level. He's not just finishing. he's also making his own opportunities happen. It's not Chytil level, who was insane in the AHL. But it's very impressive. Given our depth at the NHL, we don't really have room for him, but maybe we can find a spot for him to get 1 or 2 games before the end of the year. Unlikely, but he deserves a little reward here at the end of the year just give him a little extra motivation.

In part because he spent 2 seasons in college hockey, his game was far more mature than Othmann's. I know Othmann played in the swiss league a few years back, but he's honestly not fully figured out how to translate his game at the pro level yet. His transition is a bit like Laf's in that he's got a bunch of work to do away from the puck and he doesn't really keep his feet moving enough 5v5. It's going to take time with him. He cannot become a PP specialist, who can lay a big hit here and there, with a fantastic shot. He needs to be a bit more of a wrecking ball and it's just possible that he needs to fill out a bit more for that to happen. Othmann doesn't look so big in the pros. He looks a bit small rn. The thing is, he can't just go and bulk up. He needs to work on his speed first and foremost and getting there when he's hunting pucks.

Can’t teach size. Berard needed to have more skills (let’s say as compared to Cuylle last year) and figure out how to not let his smaller frame being become a detriment.

 

[eco's bones]

What Berard is starting to do in this second half of the season is in many ways more impressive than Barron or Cuylle. Berard has figured out how to bring his high motor, high impact game to the AHL level. He's not just finishing. he's also making his own opportunities happen. It's not Chytil level, who was insane in the AHL. But it's very impressive. Given our depth at the NHL, we don't really have room for him, but maybe we can find a spot for him to get 1 or 2 games before the end of the year. Unlikely, but he deserves a little reward here at the end of the year just give him a little extra motivation.

In part because he spent 2 seasons in college hockey, his game was far more mature than Othmann's. I know Othmann played in the swiss league a few years back, but he's honestly not fully figured out how to translate his game at the pro level yet. His transition is a bit like Laf's in that he's got a bunch of work to do away from the puck and he doesn't really keep his feet moving enough 5v5. It's going to take time with him. He cannot become a PP specialist, who can lay a big hit here and there, with a fantastic shot. He needs to be a bit more of a wrecking ball and it's just possible that he needs to fill out a bit more for that to happen. Othmann doesn't look so big in the pros. He looks a bit small rn. The thing is, he can't just go and bulk up. He needs to work on his speed first and foremost and getting there when he's hunting pucks.

Cuylle picked it up in the second half of the season last year too. He didn't have a very productive playoffs though. The thing with Cuylle is he realizes he's big and strong and he puts those two things to use in an intelligent way. A player should always work on his weaknesses but at the same time take advantage of his strengths. The reason why Cuylle's in the NHL already is that. He cycles the puck, he goes to the net, he hits.....he's got puck and shooting skills and understands play away from the puck.

I don't watch Pack games. I sometimes listen to them on their radio feed. But I also keep an eye on the shot chart and anybody who wants to can track where a player's shots are coming from and a lot if not most of Berard's are 5, 10, 15 feet out. Despite his size he leads the team in shots and he's all around the opposition goaltender. He's a little buzzsaw and gets to the net which was his college and WJC MO....he's been able to do that at the AHL level which is very impressive. That's kind of Marchand like. He probably doesn't and won't have Marchand's asshole-ish kind of game but he's putting himself in a place where his game can be the most effective. He's small but not a perimeter player. I like that.

 

[GAGLine]

Lamb with the only assist on the GWG in a 3-2 win.

 

[rangersfansince08]

So Roobroeck is a legit prospect (capable of being a good to great 4th liner?)

What should we expect Berard to end up as? 40-50 pt middle six player or 4th line energy guy?

 

[bl02]

So Roobroeck is a legit prospect (capable of being a good to great 4th liner?)

What should we expect Berard to end up as? 40-50 pt middle six player or 4th line energy guy?

If his play in a tough league (AHL) as a rookie is any indication Berard should be a 2nd or 3rd line winger.

 

[rangersfansince08]

If his play in a tough league (AHL) as a rookie is any indication Berard should be a 2nd or 3rd line winger.

That's what I'm hoping for. Was hoping I wasn't being too optimistic. Tgought it was weird the beat writers were saying the prospects PIT got would be third best in our system when we have Berard.

 

[n8]

What Berard is starting to do in this second half of the season is in many ways more impressive than Barron or Cuylle. Berard has figured out how to bring his high motor, high impact game to the AHL level. He's not just finishing. he's also making his own opportunities happen. It's not Chytil level, who was insane in the AHL. But it's very impressive. Given our depth at the NHL, we don't really have room for him, but maybe we can find a spot for him to get 1 or 2 games before the end of the year. Unlikely, but he deserves a little reward here at the end of the year just give him a little extra motivation.

In part because he spent 2 seasons in college hockey, his game was far more mature than Othmann's. I know Othmann played in the swiss league a few years back, but he's honestly not fully figured out how to translate his game at the pro level yet. His transition is a bit like Laf's in that he's got a bunch of work to do away from the puck and he doesn't really keep his feet moving enough 5v5. It's going to take time with him. He cannot become a PP specialist, who can lay a big hit here and there, with a fantastic shot. He needs to be a bit more of a wrecking ball and it's just possible that he needs to fill out a bit more for that to happen. Othmann doesn't look so big in the pros. He looks a bit small rn. The thing is, he can't just go and bulk up. He needs to work on his speed first and foremost and getting there when he's hunting pucks.

next season is gonna be interesting. I don't know what is best for development but Berard, Othmann, Rempe, and Edstrom could all play in New York. Not saying they will or should but could. Interesting to hear that Othmann isn't quite there even though he's putting up the points.

 

[dangsLITE]

Is Conor Sheary a good comp for Berard?

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Just realized that Brodzinski has a brother that plays on Lambs team. 5th year NCAA player, flyers draft pick.

 

[cwede]

Just realized that Brodzinski has a brother that plays on Lambs team. 5th year NCAA player, flyers draft pick.

yeah Bryce is the youngest of 4, playing 5th full season as Gopher
Johnny is eldest
Minnesota boys, 2 played St Cloud, 2 played Gophers
Mike, the brother who plays D ,was briefly (3 games) w Pack a couple years back,
middle forward brother Easton completed a 5 season NCAA career in '22, played 1 game for Pack spring '22 on try-out, then last season while signed by Pack he only played ECHL

https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid%5B%5D=217241&pid%5B%5D=186651&pid%5B%5D=239607&pid%5B%5D=139946&pid%5B%5D=152939

 

[gravey9]

With the development of Laba, Berard and Rooebreck, I'm more optimistic about the Rangers prospect pool than pretty much any of the so-called prospect experts.

Laba, Berard, Rooebreck, Othmann, Sykora, Rempe, Edstrom -- This is the class of players that will be the equivalent of the Dubinsky, Callahan, Hagelin era.

And as an equivalent, Perreault stands out as the Derek Stepan of the group. Highly skilled, cerebral kid that overcomes any physical limitations with his sophisticated mind.

The biggest reason for the Rangers to keep that first round pick - they need to hit on a top 4 D prospect or really, another skilled forward who could arrive as Panarin, Tro, Zib and Kreider are declining or gone. In fact, if you project out 2-3 years, we will need to find some high end skill to compliment Laffy and, yes, Kakko. Losing Chytil is a biiiiig loss for 2 years from now.

But back to the main point, the Rangers have done a far better job in recent drafts of finding guys in the later rounds. I haven't mentioned BMB or Chmelar.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

With the development of Laba, Berard and Rooebreck, I'm more optimistic about the Rangers prospect pool than pretty much any of the so-called prospect experts.

Laba, Berard, Rooebreck, Othmann, Sykora, Rempe, Edstrom -- This is the class of players that will be the equivalent of the Dubinsky, Callahan, Hagelin era.

And as an equivalent, Perreault stands out as the Derek Stepan of the group. Highly skilled, cerebral kid that overcomes any physical limitations with his sophisticated mind.

The biggest reason for the Rangers to keep that first round pick - they need to hit on a top 4 D prospect or really, another skilled forward who could arrive as Panarin, Tro, Zib and Kreider are declining or gone. In fact, if you project out 2-3 years, we will need to find some high end skill to compliment Laffy and, yes, Kakko. Losing Chytil is a biiiiig loss for 2 years from now.

But back to the main point, the Rangers have done a far better job in recent drafts of finding guys in the later rounds. I haven't mentioned BMB or Chmelar.

It would be ironic if our current pool which is unheralded will be more fruitful than the post-lockout one when we got the 1s and 2nd overall picks.

 

[Ranger Ric]

Just realized that Brodzinski has a brother that plays on Lambs team. 5th year NCAA player, flyers draft pick.

Steven Ellis of The daily face off did a story about a month ago of 10 draft picks that he thought might not be signed by the teams that drafted them. One of the ten already has publicly said he won’t sign before August 15. Brodzinski is on the list. You would think that if he doesn’t sign with the Flyers the Rangers might be interested.

 

[GAGLine]

With the development of Laba, Berard and Rooebreck, I'm more optimistic about the Rangers prospect pool than pretty much any of the so-called prospect experts.

Laba, Berard, Rooebreck, Othmann, Sykora, Rempe, Edstrom -- This is the class of players that will be the equivalent of the Dubinsky, Callahan, Hagelin era.

And as an equivalent, Perreault stands out as the Derek Stepan of the group. Highly skilled, cerebral kid that overcomes any physical limitations with his sophisticated mind.

The biggest reason for the Rangers to keep that first round pick - they need to hit on a top 4 D prospect or really, another skilled forward who could arrive as Panarin, Tro, Zib and Kreider are declining or gone. In fact, if you project out 2-3 years, we will need to find some high end skill to compliment Laffy and, yes, Kakko. Losing Chytil is a biiiiig loss for 2 years from now.

But back to the main point, the Rangers have done a far better job in recent drafts of finding guys in the later rounds. I haven't mentioned BMB or Chmelar.

We need a RD more than anything. We have a few center prospects in Korczak, Laba and Barker. Both Zib and Trocheck will be here for a while, Chytil may come back and/or Wennberg may be re-signed. At RD, we have Mancini and that's it. Trouba may not be here for much longer. Schneider can take his spot, but we need someone to fill in behind him.

LD is a concern too, but we do have Scanlin, Robertson and Fortescue there, and Mackey for depth. Miller isn't going anywhere. Lindgren will either be re-signed or replaced with an upgrade via trade/free agency, so there's not as much urgency there.

With our dearth of picks, maybe we trade back from the 1st round, pick up a 2nd and 3rd, or maybe even 2 2nds. Arizona has 1 1st and 3 2nds in this draft. I could see them trading 2 of those 2nds to move back into the 1st. Chicago and Nashville have 3 in the 2nd round as well. Anaheim, Calgary, San Jose, Seattle, St. Louis, Philly and Pittsburgh all have 2 in the 2nd round. Pittsburgh doesn't have a 1st round pick, so they might be willing to trade up.

Steven Ellis of The daily face off did a story about a month ago of 10 draft picks that he thought might not be signed by the teams that drafted them. One of the ten already has publicly said he won’t sign before August 15. Brodzinski is on the list. You would think that if he doesn’t sign with the Flyers the Rangers might be interested.

Was Morrow on the list? He has another year before he can become UFA, but I'd love to snag another RD on the cheap from Carolina.

 

[kovazub94]

We need a RD more than anything. We have a few center prospects in Korczak, Laba and Barker. Both Zib and Trocheck will be here for a while, Chytil may come back and/or Wennberg may be re-signed. At RD, we have Mancini and that's it. Trouba may not be here for much longer. Schneider can take his spot, but we need someone to fill in behind him.

LD is a concern too, but we do have Scanlin, Robertson and Fortescue there, and Mackey for depth. Miller isn't going anywhere. Lindgren will either be re-signed or replaced with an upgrade via trade/free agency, so there's not as much urgency there.

With our dearth of picks, maybe we trade back from the 1st round, pick up a 2nd and 3rd, or maybe even 2 2nds. Arizona has 1 1st and 3 2nds in this draft. I could see them trading 2 of those 2nds to move back into the 1st. Chicago and Nashville have 3 in the 2nd round as well. Anaheim, Calgary, San Jose, Seattle, St. Louis, Philly and Pittsburgh all have 2 in the 2nd round. Pittsburgh doesn't have a 1st round pick, so they might be willing to trade up.


Was Morrow on the list? He has another year before he can become UFA, but I'd love to snag another RD on the cheap from Carolina.

Both D sides need significant infux of talent but relatively IMO left side is more suspect. Fox and Schneider (and two more years on remaining on Trouba’s contract) should give plenty of long term comfort. Miller is the only staple on the left in the same band. Jones keeps showing that he might belong but it is still not fully certain and Lindgren’s contribution relative to his potential contract cost and term could be prohibitive.

 

[NYR Viper]

we’ve discussed Chmelar quite a bit but it’s pretty clear that the proper move is to keep him in NCAA next year. 15 points in 25 games which has been hampered by an injury but that’s not a season that screams move up to the AHL. This is not a bad thing. Sign Mancini and Laba this year. Chmelar, Perrault and Lamb next year likely

 

[Ranger Ric]

We need a RD more than anything. We have a few center prospects in Korczak, Laba and Barker. Both Zib and Trocheck will be here for a while, Chytil may come back and/or Wennberg may be re-signed. At RD, we have Mancini and that's it. Trouba may not be here for much longer. Schneider can take his spot, but we need someone to fill in behind him.

LD is a concern too, but we do have Scanlin, Robertson and Fortescue there, and Mackey for depth. Miller isn't going anywhere. Lindgren will either be re-signed or replaced with an upgrade via trade/free agency, so there's not as much urgency there.

With our dearth of picks, maybe we trade back from the 1st round, pick up a 2nd and 3rd, or maybe even 2 2nds. Arizona has 1 1st and 3 2nds in this draft. I could see them trading 2 of those 2nds to move back into the 1st. Chicago and Nashville have 3 in the 2nd round as well. Anaheim, Calgary, San Jose, Seattle, St. Louis, Philly and Pittsburgh all have 2 in the 2nd round. Pittsburgh doesn't have a 1st round pick, so they might be willing to trade up.


Was Morrow on the list? He has another year before he can become UFA, but I'd love to snag another RD on the cheap from Carolina.

Morrow was not on the list but this was speculation by Ellis of players he thinks might not be signed.

 

[rangersfansince08]

Morrow was not on the list but this was speculation by Ellis of players he thinks might not be signed.

That would be a huge get for us if we pull it off

 

[eco's bones]

we’ve discussed Chmelar quite a bit but it’s pretty clear that the proper move is to keep him in NCAA next year. 15 points in 25 games which has been hampered by an injury but that’s not a season that screams move up to the AHL. This is not a bad thing. Sign Mancini and Laba this year. Chmelar, Perrault and Lamb next year likely

Chmelar was having a very good year before the injury. He's another big guy 6'5 220 lbs. that can really skate.....played on two Czech WJC teams. He had almost all his point production before the injury. I'm inclined to think he needs another season at Providence College too. Before that he was flirting with point a game. I think the skill is there.....he's just got to get his game and confidence back. Mancini also has size 6'4 220 lbs. A stay at home D. The Rangers have a number of very large prospects that are doing well.