Prospect Info: 2023-2024 Rangers Prospects Thread (Prospect Stats in Post #1; Updated 05.22.2024)

[cwede]

Barbasev returned to Shawinigan, the default next step to wherever he ends up playing

 

[GAGLine]

Barbasev returned to Shawinigan, the default next step to wherever he ends up playing

Yeah, I figured this would be the case.

Looking at Shawinigan's roster, I see 14 forwards and Barbashev isn't one of them, but only 1 player on the team (Lou-Félix Denis) is an overager.

However, they already have the max imports:

Leo Braillard from Switzerland
Jiri Klima from Czechia

Barbashev will have to displace one of these players to play for Shawinigan. Braillard played 41 games for them last year and put up 22 points, so I doubt he's going anywhere. Klima is in his 1st year with the team (drafted 20th overall in the 2023 import draft). He has no points and is a -4 in 6 games so far, though he does have 10 shots on goal and 1 shootout goal.

Klima is 17 and they selected him for a reason, so I doubt they send him to Junior A, but I have to assume the Rangers have some plan for Barbashev that will get him playing sooner rather than later.

 

[Ranger Ric]

So you've rather have a shitty team in Hartford that never makes the playoffs, just so we can sign guys that have virtually no chance of ever being NHL players. Solid strategy.

No one's been harder on Hartford than I have but the team did make the playoffs last year and had an impressive playoff losing to the eventual Stanley Cup champion. Two players from that roster, Cuylle and Jones are now on the Rangers. The team has several prospects this that could be NHL players and a couple of vets that can fill in if there are injuries on the Rangers. If anything, this is the year the Rangers may finally have figured out Hartford.

 

[GAGLine]

No one's been harder on Hartford than I have but the team did make the playoffs last year and had an impressive playoff losing to the eventual Stanley Cup champion. Two players from that roster, Cuylle and Jones are now on the Rangers. The team has several prospects this that could be NHL players and a couple of vets that can fill in if there are injuries on the Rangers. If anything, this is the year the Rangers may finally have figured out Hartford.

I'm not arguing that point, just that other poster's continued insistence that we should favor every marginal prospect over competent AHL vets who can both help Hartford win and provide depth for the Rangers.

 

[nyr2k2]

A team can petition the CHL that due to a player's residency status he should not count as an import. Maybe it's possible Shawinigan did that? It's rare, so I feel like we would have heard about it by now.

I believe the next LHJMQ trade window is in mid-December. Who knows what will happen with Barbashev.

 

[Mugless]

So that's how you pronounce Chmelar.

 

[cwede]

... Since 2010, a total of 28 Import players transferred from the QMJHL to the OHL, and 12 from the QMJHL to the WHL.

... Looking at Shawinigan's roster, I see 14 forwards and Barbashev isn't one of them, but only 1 player on the team (Lou-Félix Denis) is an overager.
However, they already have the max imports:
Leo Braillard from Switzerland Jiri Klima from Czechia

A team can petition the CHL that due to a player's residency status he should not count as an import. Maybe it's possible Shawinigan did that? It's rare, so I feel like we would have heard about it by now.
I believe the next LHJMQ trade window is in mid-December. Who knows what will happen with Barbashev.

Since reading AK's post 4 weeks back(above),
I've been curious how the possible transfers to a different CHL league can be arranged,
and if that might be in play re Barbashev's situation

Today's assignment to Shawinigan should trigger next steps, whatever those end up being

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

So that's how you pronounce Chmelar.

 

[Harbour Dog]

So that's how you pronounce Chmelar.

Never mind, AK answered before I even asked.

 

[Ranger Ric]

So that's how you pronounce Chmelar.

Thanks for posting. Terrific goal by Chmelar. Here is the first goal where Chemlar has the primary assist. Watch how in a tight space he is able to corral a bouncing puck and pass it to an open wing.

 

[GAGLine]

Thanks for posting. Terrific goal by Chmelar. Here is the first goal where Chemlar has the primary assist. Watch how in a tight space he is able to corral a bouncing puck and pass it to an open wing.

He also helps bring the defender with him and screen the goalie. A good play all around.

 

[nyr2k2]

I'm posting this as it's seemingly the first time someone other than attentive Rangers fans from HF noted that Barbashev can't just "go back" to Shawinigan without something else happening.

 

[GAGLine]

I'm posting this as it's seemingly the first time someone other than attentive Rangers fans from HF noted that Barbashev can't just "go back" to Shawinigan without something else happening.

I tweeted the question to Vince, but haven't seen a response yet.

 

[egelband]

So that's how you pronounce Chmelar.

Beautiful goal. Very poised.

 

[Gordon Bombay]

So that's how you pronounce Chmelar.

I've always thought of him as that new cat in Shalimar. So much for that

 

[GAGLine]

In the exhibition college games last night, Noah Laba scored twice. No box score for the game.

This is his 2nd goal from that game:



This kid was a surprise last year. He may be looking to surprise us again.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Cataractes scout Benoit Belanger responded on Twitter and clarified that 20-year olds can be traded after the deadline.

 

[nyr2k2]

Cataractes scout Benoit Belanger responded on Twitter and clarified that 20-year olds can be traded after the deadline.

https://x.com/BenoitGBelanger/status/1711741954474602615?s=20

I saw a couple people mentioned that on random QMJHL-related message board on the internet. However, it was just as you said, "20-year-olds can be traded after the deadline." Well, what does "after the deadline" mean? There are several deadlines. The scout in your Twitter thread indicates it basically means "can be traded any time," which is definitely not the same as "after the deadline" in my view. I also saw one person say, "You will never find a comprehensive guide explaining the QMJHL trade deadlines and how trades work" which made me laugh.

Anyway, seems like the most likely resolution then is a trade within the Q.

 

[cwede]

I'm posting this as it's seemingly the first time someone other than attentive Rangers fans from HF noted that Barbashev can't just "go back" to Shawinigan without something else happening.

I tweeted the question to Vince, but haven't seen a response yet.

Cataractes scout Benoit Belanger responded on Twitter and clarified that 20-year olds can be traded after the deadline.

https://x.com/BenoitGBelanger/status/1711741954474602615?s=20

that tweet wasn't readable today, but thanks for that new piece of info

found this posted by the league a few weeks back, hinting that he might stick w Shawinigan

Our 18 | Three Questions on the 2023-24 Shawinigan Cataractes - LHJMQ

How strong will the blueline be? With the long reign of Antoine Coulombe over, how will things unfold between the pipes? Which player is most likely to lead the team in scoring?

chl.ca

Our 18 | Three Questions on the 2023-24 Shawinigan Cataractes
By LHJMQ-QMJHL September 18, 2023

Which player is most likely to lead the team in scoring?

Goals were at a premium at times in Shawinigan last season. With last year’s scoring leader Stephane Huard Jr. moving on, the field is wide open for someone to step up. Felix Lacerte seems to be the most logical answer after finishing third in the QMJHL rookie scoring race last year, while overager Lou-Felix Denis has steadily upped his numbers over the past three seasons. Then there’s the biggest wildcard of them all, Maxim Barbashev. The 2022 New York Rangers draft pick was acquired from the Moncton Wildcats early in training camp but, as an overager, can be assigned to the AHL. Should he make his way back to junior, all bets are off when it comes to answering the above question

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I saw a couple people mentioned that on random QMJHL-related message board on the internet. However, it was just as you said, "20-year-olds can be traded after the deadline." Well, what does "after the deadline" mean? There are several deadlines. The scout in your Twitter thread indicates it basically means "can be traded any time," which is definitely not the same as "after the deadline" in my view. I also saw one person say, "You will never find a comprehensive guide explaining the QMJHL trade deadlines and how trades work" which made me laugh.

Anyway, seems like the most likely resolution then is a trade within the Q.

Yeah, I'm trying to find more info and am just sharing as I go along haha

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

 

[cwede]

Any chance someone can list the prospects schedule and the times they are on for their teams in juniors and college? Did we used to have a prospect schedule thread?

Steven has done it, on Twitter, often in past, but I believe he is still traveling

this is what i referred to

if you prefer it here, and want to contribute to the community,
its quite easy to (1) use Embed Tweet, (2) copy the link to Tweet, and (3) paste it here into a new post

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Any chance someone can list the prospects schedule and the times they are on for their teams in juniors and college? Did we used to have a prospect schedule thread?

This week I started my weekly and daily prospect schedules again.

Here's a list for the whole week. From next week onwards, these will be visible on Twitter at 7 AM Eastern every morning

Here's today's schedule:

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

 

[The Crypto Guy]

Finally. Now he can get back to playing hockey. Poor kid that he had to deal with this stuff because of silly rules in the league. There should be exceptions to some rules that are clearly hurting a kids chance to develop into a NHLer one day.