NHL 2023-2024 Out of Town: Regular Season II - Patrick Roy named Isles Coach

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missingchicklet

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He usually has a good reason to be mad. There was a game years ago in his Columbus days when too many seconds were added to the clock in the third after a stoppage, and the Habs tied it in those extra milliseconds. Their goalie was injured in a shootout loss and I thought Torts was going to strangle the time keepers. Jackets should have won in regulation but we all know what happens in the Bell centre that late in a game...
Haha. I remember that. Man, was he ever fired up. You're right, when Torts blows up he's almost always right.
 
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Tort gets it. The under age leagues got away from hitting. Now players aren't expecting to get hit and are surprised and hurt when they do.

Torts makes a good point.

Might tie-in with why it seems like there has to be a skirmish/fight after so many legal hits nowadays. Used to be a guy took a big legal hit, got up, game continued on, tried to pay the dude back later in the game with a hard hit.
 

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Tort gets it. The under age leagues got away from hitting. Now players aren't expecting to get hit and are surprised and hurt when they do.


Been saying it for years. Teach hitting in Mites and Squirts, when the equipment to body ratio is roughly 1:1. Instead they wait until the kids are adolescents, and you have undersized 13 year olds who never took a hit before getting their clocks cleaned by post-growth-spurt 14 year olds who are almost the size of men.
 

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Been saying it for years. Teach hitting in Mites and Squirts, when the equipment to body ratio is roughly 1:1. Instead they wait until the kids are adolescents, and you have undersized 13 year olds who never took a hit before getting their clocks cleaned by post-growth-spurt 14 year olds who are almost the size of men.
There’s absolutely zero reason to teach hitting at 10 years old much less 7 or 8. The wide variance in size and skill at that level makes it silly to even consider.
 

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Been saying it for years. Teach hitting in Mites and Squirts, when the equipment to body ratio is roughly 1:1. Instead they wait until the kids are adolescents, and you have undersized 13 year olds who never took a hit before getting their clocks cleaned by post-growth-spurt 14 year olds who are almost the size of men.
My nephew is 13 and plays Bantams in MA. He’s small, but can handle the rough stuff. I am amazed/concerned however that his age group is still coed.

Too many times this year, I‘ve seen the girls on his team take big hits, that have injured them.

Don‘t get me wrong, they are all excellent players and very tough girls, but at 13/14 there is a huge size and strength discrepancy among the boys, never mind the girls.

It’s not like the boys are going out of their way to hit/injure the girls, a couple of times they were hurt during accidental collisions, with no intent.

The problem is that some of these 14 year olds are enormous, and to me, it’s just an unnecessary risk to have girls playing with and against them.
 

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There’s absolutely zero reason to teach hitting at 10 years old much less 7 or 8. The wide variance in size and skill at that level makes it silly to even consider.

Agree to disagree. In all my years of watching and coaching since the 70s, I never saw a kid in Squirts or Mites get hurt by a hit when hitting was allowed. There is just too much padding, and the impact is tiny.

But I've seen multiple kids in Bantams get sent out to the quiet room because they never learned to keep their head up, or spent the last 6 years catching suicide passes because no one could hit them.
 

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Tort gets it. The under age leagues got away from hitting. Now players aren't expecting to get hit and are surprised and hurt when they do.

He’s not wrong at all.

Also that was a great hit and a terrible call. Blame needs to fall on the linesman for not blowing the whistle. Players are taught at every level to play to the whistle.

The fact that was a 5 min major and we’ve seen two Bruins players take vicious sticks to the face and head along with Marchand being boarded/cross checked from behind at almost full speed in the last week with no major penalties is mind blowing.
 
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Tampa next playoff appearance probably starts in the 30’s
 
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There’s absolutely zero reason to teach hitting at 10 years old much less 7 or 8. The wide variance in size and skill at that level makes it silly to even consider.
I wholeheartedly disagree with this thinking. I have always been easily the smallest guy in any league I've played in. If I had learned hitting at 13 or 14 I would have had too many concussions to count.

Instead we started learning at 10 in hockey schools how to properly hit/receive hits and started body contact in games in 11AA....it was huge personally for me to learn to take hits at that age when kids are generally max 100 lbs rather than to wait until everyone else had a massive growth spurt and i was still 80 lbs soaking wet.

They are hurting undersized kids by not teaching them not only how to hit, but more importantly how to protect yourself and take a hit properly at a young age. Just my two cents of course, I understand not needing physicality at that age, but I guarantee you I would not have went from 14 to 18 years old with zero injuries had they not started us early.
 
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