2023-2024 EPL Season

[bluesfan94]

It's always nice when mid-table teams get that new manager bounce and temporarily have reason for optimism.

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Arsenal fans who were talking (and have continued to be talking) like they won a treble because they were top of the table at Christmas are dunking on Spurs fans for being optimistic after a good start to the season

I love it when the irrelevant London clubs get into it

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

It's always nice when mid-table teams get that new manager bounce and temporarily have reason for optimism.

Yawn. That's the only reaction you clearly are seeking that you are going to get from me.

 

[bluesfan94]

Arsenal fans who were talking (and have continued to be talking) like they won a treble because they were top of the table at Christmas are dunking on Spurs fans for being optimistic after a good start to the season

I love it when the irrelevant London clubs get into it

Sorry, you have to be top half of the table to ride this ride. At least you're not last in West London!

Also, we weren't celebrating the treble in Christmas. We were already out of the Carabao Cup. Get it right!

 

[Wee Baby Seamus]

Sorry, you have to be top half of the table to ride this ride. At least you're not last in West London!

Sorry, while you and Spuds focus on who's gonna come so close and yet so far in the league (and it's worth noting that Spurs's second place in 2016-17 had more points than Arsenal last year ), we're too busy winning two UCLs since the last time Arsenal even made a UCL QF.

 

[bluesfan94]

Sorry, while you and Spuds focus on who's gonna come so close and yet so far in the league (and it's worth noting that Spurs's second place in 2016-17 had more points than Arsenal last year ), we're too busy winning two UCLs since the last time Arsenal even made a UCL QF.

Oh no. I'm afraid you're living in the past. Must be new for Chelsea fans to have a history worth being proud of. Well, as much as you can be proud about being owned by Putin's buddy

 

[KJS14]

Brazil's Richarlison to 'seek psychological help' after World Cup qualifying woes, aims to come back stronger

The attacker says he wants to work on his mind after recent struggles

www.cbssports.com

Do you think we're any closer to when players coming out being 100% honest about their mental struggles in creating empathy in most fans? Are we getting further and further from "You get paid millions, suck it up buttercup" and closer to, "I still hate Spurs, but hate to see a guy who has done nothing wrong off the pitch struggling mentally."?

I think personal mental health issues and sporting mental issues are different though. I'm not sure if Richarlison has some off-the-field / personal issue(s) too, but I'm not going to feel sorry for him having to cope with his bad performances. We're supposed to empathize with a rival player because he's sad for not being as good a player as he thinks he is?

I'm not one to say "you get paid millions, suck it up buttercup," but dealing with pressure is a part of sports. As a Philadelphia sports fan, I think tough love with the right amount of support through slumps is fine from your own fans (see Trea Turner / Alec Bohm). But some guys just can't handle the mental side of sports through their own faults (see Carson Wentz).

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

I think personal mental health issues and sporting mental issues are different though. I'm not sure if Richarlison has some off-the-field / personal issue(s) too, but I'm not going to feel sorry for him having to cope with his bad performances. We're supposed to empathize with a rival player because he's sad for not being as good a player as he thinks he is?

I'm not one to say "you get paid millions, suck it up buttercup," but dealing with pressure is a part of sports. As a Philadelphia sports fan, I think tough love with the right amount of support through slumps is fine from your own fans (see Trea Turner / Alec Bohm). But some guys just can't handle the mental side of sports through their own faults (see Carson Wentz).

For you its a sport for a lot of these players its their life. So I would say they're absolutely the same thing.

I've complained about him and laughed at him for more than anyone I would imagine but I can sympathise with the person... I hope most can separate the two.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

I'm not sure if Richarlison has some off-the-field / personal issue(s) too, but I'm not going to feel sorry for him having to cope with his bad performances. We're supposed to empathize with a rival player because he's sad for not being as good a player as he thinks he is?

From the article above:

"That sad moment [against Bolivia] wasn't even because I played poorly," Richarlison said after the victory against Peru. "In my opinion, I didn't play a bad game in Belem, it was more of an outburst about the things that were happening off the field, which got out of control, not on my part, but on the part of people who were close to me."

For you its a sport for a lot of these players its their life. So I would say they're absolutely the same thing.

I've complained about him and laughed at him for more than anyone I would imagine but I can sympathise with the person... I hope most can separate the two.

I thought Ange had a good take on it all:

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Brazil's Richarlison to 'seek psychological help' after World Cup qualifying woes, aims to come back stronger

The attacker says he wants to work on his mind after recent struggles

www.cbssports.com

Do you think we're any closer to when players coming out being 100% honest about their mental struggles in creating empathy in most fans? Are we getting further and further from "You get paid millions, suck it up buttercup" and closer to, "I still hate Spurs, but hate to see a guy who has done nothing wrong off the pitch struggling mentally."?

 

[KJS14]

For you its a sport for a lot of these players its their life. So I would say they're absolutely the same thing.

I've complained about him and laughed at him for more than anyone I would imagine but I can sympathise with the person... I hope most can separate the two.

I'd say that sports consume a lot of people's lives up until they aren't good enough to keep playing competitively at that top level. It's definitely heightened for the pros, but I still think there's a difference between personal mental health issues and sporting ones.

I can certainly sympathize with the person or empathize with the feeling of going through a rough stretch, but dealing with that adversity is just a part of sports. Are we going to coddle every player that doesn't even reach the same level as Richarlison?

We're also not talking about some humble player... it's Richarlison. He does the chicken dance in goal celebrations and then wants sympathy for playing poorly?

 

[spintheblackcircle]

I'd say that sports consume a lot of people's lives up until they aren't good enough to keep playing competitively at that top level. It's definitely heightened for the pros, but I still think there's a difference between personal mental health issues and sporting ones.

I can certainly sympathize with the person or empathize with the feeling of going through a rough stretch, but dealing with that adversity is just a part of sports. Are we going to coddle every player that doesn't even reach the same level as Richarlison?

We're also not talking about some humble player... it's Richarlison. He does the chicken dance in goal celebrations and then wants sympathy for playing poorly?

Yea, he's a dick.

brazil-player-richarlison-celebrated-for-activism-charity-work

According to news outlet Mundo Deportivo, Richarlison donates 10% of his income at the English club Tottenham to cancer patients, for whom he provides free housing.

He also showed great commitment and determination to support and empower local communities in Brazil, including those who suffered most during the COVID-19 outbreak due to the country’s poor healthcare system.

He provided locals with hundreds of food parcels during the pandemic, as well as during recent floods that ravaged several Brazilian regions earlier this year.

“It is extremely necessary to remove the label from players, which says they should stick to sports and not talk about anything else,” Richarlison stressed, expressing his commitment to contribute to humanitarian causes.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

I'd say that sports consume a lot of people's lives up until they aren't good enough to keep playing competitively at that top level. It's definitely heightened for the pros, but I still think there's a difference between personal mental health issues and sporting ones.

I can certainly sympathize with the person or empathize with the feeling of going through a rough stretch, but dealing with that adversity is just a part of sports. Are we going to coddle every player that doesn't even reach the same level as Richarlison?

We're also not talking about some humble player... it's Richarlison. He does the chicken dance in goal celebrations and then wants sympathy for playing poorly?

For the life of me, I've never understood why players dancing bothers some fans so much.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

For the life of me, I've never understood why players dancing bothers some fans so much.

They'd rather see them play the "right way" on the field and then act like a bell-end off the pitch.

"He's just being a lad"

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Like I said I don’t wish him any harm and I hope he gets the support in his life. Just because he plays on a team I don’t like won’t stop me from having sympathy for him. I’m not a psycho.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Pool up next is quite the test.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Pool up next is quite the test.

Did you just omitted Arsenal on purpose?
Oups. Home matches.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Did you just omitted Arsenal on purpose?
Oups. Home matches.

Yes, they will be quite the test too.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

Like I said I don’t wish him any harm and I hope he gets the support in his life. Just because he plays on a team I don’t like won’t stop me from having sympathy for him. I’m not a psycho.

PL Morning led with the topic of mental health and Rebecca Lowe asked Dixon and Mustoe what would happen back when they played if a player talked about their mental struggle and they both said it would make everyone feel very uncomfortable. They said the only psychologists who came in were performance-based, trying to get the players to be tougher.

They both said there was so much stress, they didn't enjoy playing. The 90 minutes were the worst part of being a footballer.

 

[KJS14]

Yea, he's a dick.

brazil-player-richarlison-celebrated-for-activism-charity-work

According to news outlet Mundo Deportivo, Richarlison donates 10% of his income at the English club Tottenham to cancer patients, for whom he provides free housing.

He also showed great commitment and determination to support and empower local communities in Brazil, including those who suffered most during the COVID-19 outbreak due to the country’s poor healthcare system.

He provided locals with hundreds of food parcels during the pandemic, as well as during recent floods that ravaged several Brazilian regions earlier this year.

“It is extremely necessary to remove the label from players, which says they should stick to sports and not talk about anything else,” Richarlison stressed, expressing his commitment to contribute to humanitarian causes.

Please tell me where I said that? If this is about the humble comment, that was about his on-the-pitch attitude. I didn't say anything about off-the-pitch issues or that he wasn't a good person. Sounds like he's a very charitable person, which I respect a lot.

For the life of me, I've never understood why players dancing bothers some fans so much.

They'd rather see them play the "right way" on the field and then act like a bell-end off the pitch.

"He's just being a lad"

That dancing doesn't bother me. I throw up the hand phone sitting in my living room every time Gabriel Jesus scores, because it's fun. I think the players should have fun with that stuff.

My point was that doing those flamboyant goal celebrations and then later wanting people to feel sorry for you for struggling mentally with your poor performances isn't going to come across well.

Like I said I don’t wish him any harm and I hope he gets the support in his life. Just because he plays on a team I don’t like won’t stop me from having sympathy for him. I’m not a psycho.

Likewise, I don't wish him any harm, and I hope he has support for any of the mental health issues. And I can empathize with the feeling of losing confidence in your performance, but I'm not going to feel sorry for him for that.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

My point was that doing those flamboyant goal celebrations and then later wanting people to feel sorry for you for struggling mentally with your poor performances isn't going to come across well.

Why? That's an absurd leap.

 

[KJS14]

Why? That's an absurd leap.

How is it an absurd leap? Player puts on an extraordinary display of confidence after scoring a goal in one game and then cites his mental/confidence issues in performing on the pitch after a string of poor performances / being substituted.

 

[Savant]

How is it an absurd leap? Player puts on an extraordinary display of confidence after scoring a goal in one game and then cites his mental/confidence issues in performing on the pitch after a string of poor performances / being substituted.

It’s a leap. On field persona does not have to equal Off field persona. I don’t like the player but he doesn’t owe it to the peanut gallery to act a certain way on the field. What’s he supposed to do, act/celebrate like Eeyore? If anything on field is probably a bit of an escape for him

 

[Spring in Fialta]

How is it an absurd leap? Player puts on an extraordinary display of confidence after scoring a goal in one game and then cites his mental/confidence issues in performing on the pitch after a string of poor performances / being substituted.

You're taking a 15 second moment when a player is happy to score a goal and extrapolating that unto a man's entire life. Yes, it's an absurd leap.

 

[phisherman]

So I expect all of you to not talk shit about Bruno Fernandes antics then?