2023-2024 EPL Season

[robertmac43]

Always had a lot of respect for Hendo, I appreciated how he supported the LGBTQ community over the years. Sucked to see him go to Saudi, sucks even more after that interview.

 

[Chimaera]

He can't admit he took the money. He's a rich footballer who likes to be seen as more than a footballer.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Some people need to learn the power of just not speaking.

 

[maclean]

Some people need to learn the power of just not speaking.

Most certainly. As much as I don't like feeding narratives about "these days", I think it's not a matter of contention that that's particularly difficult for people in these days of omnipresent social media, everyone just has to chime in on everything. Sancho's recent statement is another that comes to mind where it's clear there was too great a desire to just comment on something and it ends up having the opposite effect.

 

[Chimaera]

I don't think the Sancho comments are productive, but I do understand his side a bit. If he has the reputation of not working hard or dogging it, supporters on his current club are going to chastise him. As it stands, they probably will anyhow. Having clarification from the manager would be a positive in this step.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I don't think the Sancho comments are productive, but I do understand his side a bit. If he has the reputation of not working hard or dogging it, supporters on his current club are going to chastise him. As it stands, they probably will anyhow. Having clarification from the manager would be a positive in this step.

I think the Sancho comments are pretty absurd honestly. He’s an 80mil dollar signing who’s been utter dogshit his entire tenure here. I think as a whole the fanbase has been pretty easy on him compared to a lot of other bad signings/players especially compared to someone like Maguire.

And I know he had some off field stuff that he was dealing with that some thought could’ve been part of the problem and ETH gave him 3 months off to sort him self out mentally and physically. And all ETH said was “there were better players in training” essentially and he comes out saying he’s a scapegoat? That explains exactly why he’s a massive flop imo. He’s soffftttt.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Manchester United under pressure after Brazil drop Antony over assault claims

Manchester United are under pressure to drop Antony after Brazil released the the forward from their squad over serious allegations made by his former girlfriend

www.theguardian.com

 

[robertmac43]

With Sancho, I think he deserves some grace. It was only a month ago the footballing world was learning about Deli Ali's battle with mental health and childhood abuse. Maybe it's nothing with Sancho, but at the very least these footballers need a little more of the benefit of the doubt when it comes to mental health.

 

[hatterson]

Some people need to learn the power of just not speaking.

Or at least if you do have the guts to go the Phil Mickelson way. "Yea I may not agree with the stuff they do, but did you see the pile of cash they gave me?"

Manchester United under pressure after Brazil drop Antony over assault claims

Manchester United are under pressure to drop Antony after Brazil released the the forward from their squad over serious allegations made by his former girlfriend

www.theguardian.com

After how they handled Greedwood, there's about a 0% chance they drop Antony over this even though they absolutely should.

 

[Chimaera]

I don't really know the full story with Sancho. Some of the mental health stuff likely is a factor. He has been a failure of a move, but I don't know if it's all his fault. I also understand some if ETH is trying to use some press stuff to motivate him, but I think it's just a bad look. For a young player, he likely is aware that he hasn't been great. However it isn't like other players in his position are doing much either.

 

[Savant]

I think it’s entirely possible ETH is just a jerk. Might just be that simple as him being a bully

 

[The Abusement Park]

After how they handled Greedwood, there's about a 0% chance they drop Antony over this even though they absolutely should.

United certainly don’t deserve the benefit of the doubt, they lost that with the the Greenwood ordeal. But this is going the Partey route. I don’t think there’s any evidence(that I’ve seen at least) that shows he’s 100% guilty. But I’m sure they’ll hide behind that until the legal battle swings against him if he did indeed do it. Even if he probably should be dropped until he’s charged or cleared.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I don't really know the full story with Sancho. Some of the mental health stuff likely is a factor. He has been a failure of a move, but I don't know if it's all his fault. I also understand some if ETH is trying to use some press stuff to motivate him, but I think it's just a bad look. For a young player, he likely is aware that he hasn't been great. However it isn't like other players in his position are doing much either.

It’s not like ETH has treated him unfairly. He gave him a large break to sort himself out mentally and has been bad before and after that break. He got asked why Sancho wasn’t in the squad and said he hasn’t been good enough in training. I just don’t really see that being problematic enough to go out and publicly criticize you manager.

 

[Savant]

It’s not like ETH has treated him unfairly. He gave him a large break to sort himself out mentally and has been bad before and after that break. He got asked why Sancho wasn’t in the squad and said he hasn’t been good enough in training. I just don’t really see that being problematic enough to go out and publicly criticize you manager.

Maybe the issue is the manager is the problematic one

 

[hatterson]

Maybe the issue is the manager is the problematic one

It's not like Sancho suddenly started flopping or having issues after ETH got here. If anything I'd say last was his best year with United, although that's a pretty low bar to clear.

 

[Savant]

It's not like Sancho suddenly started flopping or having issues after ETH got here. If anything I'd say last was his best year with United, although that's a pretty low bar to clear.

Sure, but ETH might also just be an A hole.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Maybe the issue is the manager is the problematic one

The manager that gave him 3 months off and tailor made that break to help him mentally and physically? Seems like he gave Sancho the soft love approach there and is now trying a more direct approach to get him going. But again, it’s not like he said anything overly harsh in his post game or anything.

 

[Savant]

The manager that gave him 3 months off and tailor made that break to help him mentally and physically? Seems like he gave Sancho the soft love approach there and is now trying a more direct approach to get him going. But again, it’s not like he said anything overly harsh in his post game or anything.

Yeah but the manager has also proven he doesn’t give a shit about players with assault concerns. Benched David Neres over a hair joke that he started, and has gaslighted several players already this season such as Sancho, Maguire and Evans. I think ETH is actually just an A hole; but I’m sure no one on your side will care as long as they get results

 

[Chimaera]

I don't know enough about ETH to comment on that. I also don't know the inner workings of that dressing room to comment either. however, what it looks like to me at this stage is he's trying to eliminate any culpability on the player for himself. He also could be shifting some blame to a player he did not want to lessen some burden on his other transfers (that have not looked amazing either). But I think I'm reading too much into it.

There is a good player in Sancho, but he's had what? 4 managers since 2021? Even if one was a caretaker, that's a lot of change. Different guys asking for different things. Tough for some young players to handle.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Yeah but the manager has also proven he doesn’t give a shit about players with assault concerns. Benched David Neres over a hair joke that he started, and has gaslighted several players already this season such as Sancho, Maguire and Evans. I think ETH is actually just an A hole; but I’m sure no one on your side will care as long as they get results

I mean he probably is an asshole. But so are most managers around Europe. I don’t really think there’s any more to the story right now than a blunt man answered a question honestly.

 

[Savant]

I mean he probably is an asshole. But so are most managers around Europe. I don’t really think there’s any more to the story right now than a blunt man answered a question honestly.

I think the real story is ETH is an A hole. More so than every other A hole manager. Looking forward to when that emerges

 

[Jussi]

Maybe the issue is the manager is the problematic one

Or it's just more of the same with Sancho?

Southgate and his coaching staff have spoken about the problem of Sancho sulking when he is not selected in the line-up and the negative impact it can have on the atmosphere in camp.

The issue dates back to Euro 2020 when he is said to have reacted petulantly to being left out of the squad for the opening group game against Croatia.

It was a recurring issue at Dortmund where manager Lucien Favre punished him on several occasions and dropped him for games against Barcelona and Borussia Monchengladbach.

He was late for training because he spent the nights playing CoD online with Rashford, Lingard and Pogba.

 

[Savant]

Match Officials Mic’d Up Pt 1: Webb analyses key incidents from Matchweeks 1-4 in 2023/24

PGMOL's Howard Webb reveals the decision-making process for incidents such as Kai Havertz's overturned penalty

www.premierleague.com

Or it's just more of the same with Sancho?

He was late for training because he spent the nights playing CoD online with Rashford, Lingard and Pogba.

I mean, I’d take the video games over advocating for people like Antony and Greenwood

 

[Blender]

“It’s not only a free-kick, but it also denies Isak an obvious goalscoring opportunity. He is close to goal, he is going to be able to control the ball quite easily, there are no covering defenders. And, of course, we know the direction is towards the goal.

In case it needs repeating what the 4 criteria that need to be evaluated are for a DOGSO.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

....I was legit moved to tears