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BlueDream

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What are y’all’s thoughts on vrana? Is there more potential from him?
Nah I think he is what he is at this point. He may score 50 points in a season but won’t offer anything in other areas of the game. He’s on his 3rd organization and turns 28 in a few months so I don’t see anything changing.

His playoff stats are this: 8 points in 38 games. I think that kind of summarizes him as a player. When games get more intense and important I wouldn’t have a lot of confidence in him.

I’m glad we took a chance on him but doesn’t look like it will lead to anything. I expect he will be dealt at the deadline or we will just let him walk in the Summer.
 

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Nah I think he is what he is at this point. He may score 50 points in a season but won’t offer anything in other areas of the game. He’s on his 3rd organization and turns 28 in a few months so I don’t see anything changing.

His playoff stats are this: 8 points in 38 games. I think that kind of summarizes him as a player. When games get more intense and important I wouldn’t have a lot of confidence in him.

I’m glad we took a chance on him but doesn’t look like it will lead to anything. I expect he will be dealt at the deadline or we will just let him walk in the Summer.

I don't disagree with you overall point but don't understand the bolded. Person hit his 4th org by 28. ROR came over at IIRC 28 yo and we were his 3rd org. Both were key components of our cup. I don't think just being in 3 orgs is bad in and if itself.

Even wearing out your welcome in multiple orgs isn't necessarily a nail in the coffin of a career. Vrana was let go, supposedly, for drug issues, not on-ice issues. If he got those issues under control, that is not a knock against his game. I'd love to see what a sober Vrana could do if used properly. Maybe it would be nothing. Either way, I just don't see him getting that chance here.
 

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from Dom, "Aside from good sequencing luck, the goal differential is also misleading given the team’s weaknesses in every score state. But there are two situations where the Blues excel that don’t get much attention: empty net and short-handed.

With a net empty, the Blues are genuinely excellent. They do a great job of putting games away (5-0) and fighting back (1-2). That plus-4 goal differential is one of the best in the league and is backed by a plus-6 expected goal differential. It’s a similar deal short-handed: six short-handed goals for and only two against.

The team is plus-8 in situations most would overlook and minus-12 otherwise. It’s a bit unconventional — we’ll see if it’s sustainable."
 

Davimir Tarablad

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Was it also the season after we won that he stopped publishing betting picks because he didn't feel comfortable that other people could be losing money?
His betting picks were in the 21-22 season, he stopped because it went heavily negative around the all-star break.

He's just been mad his model had the Bruins at 3 to 1 odds to beat us in 2019, and we've continued to outperform his model every year.
 

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He's just been mad his model had the Bruins at 3 to 1 odds to beat us in 2019, and we've continued to outperform his model every year.
Before the series started, he wrote a super-long preview article repeatedly bending over backwards to say that he thought his model was too high on Boston and warning people that they needed to take the numbers of our team with a grain of salt because they were skewed by our 1st half. He repeatedly said that he liked our team way better than the model suggested and that he also felt his model was too high on Boston. he picked Boston, but went well out of his way to describe it as a much closer call than people would expect just looking at the numbers.

I wouldn't say we outperformed his model in 2019/20. He called us his team to beat from the West and gave us the 3rd best chances of winning the Cup. We performed right in line with that.

We underperformed his model in 2020/21. He had us as clearly in the top 3 of the West division. Behind Colorado and Vegas, but way ahead of the 5 other awful teams in the division. He gave us a 68% chance of finishing with 70+ points and an 88% chance of finishing with 65+ points. He gave us a 75% chance of finishing in the top 3 in the division and a 69% chance of being a top 10 NHL team. Instead, we finished with 63 points, which was 12 points behind the Wild for 4th in the division.

We very much outperformed his model in 2021/22.

Then last year, he gave us a 50/50 shot to make the playoffs with a 92 point projection. He only gave us a 12% chance to finish below the 85 point mark.

We heavily underperformed his model in 2 of the 4 years post-Cup, heavily overperformed it one year and then performed right in line with it another.
 

Davimir Tarablad

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Before the series started, he wrote a super-long preview article repeatedly bending over backwards to say that he thought his model was too high on Boston and warning people that they needed to take the numbers of our team with a grain of salt because they were skewed by our 1st half. He repeatedly said that he liked our team way better than the model suggested and that he also felt his model was too high on Boston. he picked Boston, but went well out of his way to describe it as a much closer call than people would expect just looking at the numbers.

I wouldn't say we outperformed his model in 2019/20. He called us his team to beat from the West and gave us the 3rd best chances of winning the Cup. We performed right in line with that.

We underperformed his model in 2020/21. He had us as clearly in the top 3 of the West division. Behind Colorado and Vegas, but way ahead of the 5 other awful teams in the division. He gave us a 68% chance of finishing with 70+ points and an 88% chance of finishing with 65+ points. He gave us a 75% chance of finishing in the top 3 in the division and a 69% chance of being a top 10 NHL team. Instead, we finished with 63 points, which was 12 points behind the Wild for 4th in the division.

We very much outperformed his model in 2021/22.

Then last year, he gave us a 50/50 shot to make the playoffs with a 92 point projection. He only gave us a 12% chance to finish below the 85 point mark.

We heavily underperformed his model in 2 of the 4 years post-Cup, heavily overperformed it one year and then performed right in line with it another.
Clearly I was wrong, my memory just jumbled everything together after a lot of discussion of our team outperforming the model in 21-22.
 

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Haven't been able to watch much this season. Has Neighbours hit that next level in his game, or was it more of just a hot streak?
 

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Haven't been able to watch much this season. Has Neighbours hit that next level in his game, or was it more of just a hot streak?
In terms of production it’s a hot streak combined with an amazing opportunity(top line and top PP). His play is definitely better though and he’s getting more comfortable. He’s just not a 30 goal guy all of a sudden I don’t think. His last 7 goals came on 15 shots.
 
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wiscrev

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In terms of production it’s a hot streak combined with an amazing opportunity(top line and top PP). His play is definitely better though and he’s getting more comfortable. He’s just not a 30 goal guy all of a sudden I don’t think. His last 7 goals came on 15 shots.
Love me some Neighbors when he called out Petro after a "maybe" late hit. You could definitely read his lips and it was more than calling him a POS. Maybe a dance with him will come in the future. If so, "Mr Charmin," Petro will be the one turtling.
 

bleedblue1223

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In terms of production it’s a hot streak combined with an amazing opportunity(top line and top PP). His play is definitely better though and he’s getting more comfortable. He’s just not a 30 goal guy all of a sudden I don’t think. His last 7 goals came on 15 shots.
But, sounds like his actual play is good, with the added bonus of converting chances around the net?
 
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His betting picks were in the 21-22 season, he stopped because it went heavily negative around the all-star break.

He's just been mad his model had the Bruins at 3 to 1 odds to beat us in 2019, and we've continued to outperform his model every year.
Last year?
 

Reality Czech

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Neighbours has gone from being unnoticeable out there to being a factor. That's all you can really ask for during his second season. I'm really encouraged by what I'm seeing.

Nice to see Jake doing well. Seems like just yesterday I was defending him in the prospect rankings while many argued that Zach Dean deserved to be ranked ahead of Jake. I knew Jake had more to give after injuries held him back the past couple of years. I just didn't expect him to be this good this fast. Some players, like Neighbours, just get the NHL game naturally. Others, like Vrana, don't.
 

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With our upcoming schedule, I could easily see us going 4-12 or 5-11 in the next 16 games to get to the mid point of the season. Given the way the first 25 games have gone, we’ll probably be 8-8 or 7-7-2 in those games. This team is consistently inconsistent and the longer it takes them to find consistency in their play, the less inclined I am to believe that they can make the playoffs. I fear we are looking at picking 13-16 as our most likely scenario this coming offseason and that is the worst possible outcome IMO.
 

LogosBlue

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With our upcoming schedule, I could easily see us going 4-12 or 5-11 in the next 16 games to get to the mid point of the season. Given the way the first 25 games have gone, we’ll probably be 8-8 or 7-7-2 in those games. This team is consistently inconsistent and the longer it takes them to find consistency in their play, the less inclined I am to believe that they can make the playoffs. I fear we are looking at picking 13-16 as our most likely scenario this coming offseason and that is the worst possible outcome IMO.
But in the same breath, they could go 10-6. You just don't know with this team. Roll the dice to see how they play. Odds would say the keep up the win/lose/win/lose trajectory but literally, they are an injury or a sparkplug away from connecting or blowing up. lol. What a volatile team.
 
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