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Head up the whole time. My man is an NHLer right now.
Prospect Info: [2023 - 110th] Bogdan Konyushkov (KHL - Torpedo Nizhny Novgorod)
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SlafySZN
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BLONG7
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Another Dman...............we are stacked for kids on D.................how soon before this kid can come over to NA ?
SlafySZN
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Adam Michaels
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I think Konyushkov is this year's version of Romanov and Engstrom. All three of them were picks of "Who?" and selecting them ahead of others many of us knew of. But in the end, they become picks we're happy were selected.
Romanov is the only one so far we were able to see him establish himself into an NHL'er. We'll see what Engstrom and Konyushkov end up being. Engstrom has us all real excited about. And I believe we'll slowly get exited for Konyushkov.
His KHL contract ends on April 30th, 2026. So unless he signs another extension there, he should be free to be signed by the Habs as of May 1st, 2026. He'll be 23 years old then. And he should be someone who will be able to step into the NHL right away.
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Sam de Mtl
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Montréal will be feeding entire defenses to the rest of the NHL.
dackelljuneaubulis02
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Loving all this but hoping he can develop a shot.
He’s got quite a bit of depth to leapfrog and I don’t know if there’s enough ‘special’ in his game to overtake some other guys but Top Ice getter and captain on a KHL team? That’s crazy. Our depth at D is absurd right now. Never seen it like this. Very exciting.
He’s got quite a bit of depth to leapfrog and I don’t know if there’s enough ‘special’ in his game to overtake some other guys but Top Ice getter and captain on a KHL team? That’s crazy. Our depth at D is absurd right now. Never seen it like this. Very exciting.
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Perhaps. But what are we going to get in return?
How much trade value will say Harris, Barron, Struble, Trudeau, and Engstrom have when we have to trade them early in their careers because there's no room for them in MTL?
SlafySZN
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He’ll be ready in 3 years, no one really knows where our defence will be at that point, things can change or not work out like we thought it would with certain prospects. Especially since he’s a RD, we don’t have many prospects for that side.
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Depends on how much value they show in their respective leagues.
Engstrom is getting top pairing minutes in the SHL right now, his value would presumably be high around the league.
26Mats
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Romanov's performances at back to back World Juniors after he was drafted allowed him to make a name for himself across the NHL. So, he had high trade value even before he stood out in the NHL, aside from his elite body checks.
Hopefully some of all these D can make a name for themselves somehow. Because, like Romanov, many of them will have to traded. And it was a huge boost to the forward corps to get the asset we got for Romanov.
Adam Michaels
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Correct. But the point I was making wasn't regarding trade value. It was that when Romanov was drafted, almost everyone collectively said "Who?" Engstrom was the same. Probably not to the extent of Romanov, but he was still an unknown to most of us, considering some guys we were aware of were still on the board. It's the same with Konyushkov.
And despite our initial reactions, we were happy Habs ended up taking Romanov. We're happy they took Engstrom. And I think we'll also feel happy they took Konyushkov.
Whoever is the cream of the crop will be there. They'll make room.
Something we haven't been used to seeing in decades.
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Hard for me to know exactly. Petry at 50% retained of his already reduced salary only returned the later of Detroit's two 4ths...
Yes, my intention wasn't to disagree with your post, it was just to add to the discussion.
I was one that wished we had used the 2nd we used on Romanov on some other player, or in a trade. I don't remember who the player was, bit I remember looking back a couple of years later and being glad we took Romanov.
It's just kind of interesting to me that in the end the Romanov pick might turn out to be such a great pick because of how well he did at the World Juniors, on the biggest stage of his peers at the time, even though he may never become more than a pretty good 2nd pair dman. Yet we were able to get a really good top 6c for him, because of his perceived potential.
And that's particularly relevant to our current situation because we're going to have to trade a ton of dmen. It will be very interesting how Hughes balances his sell high trade strategy with icing the best dcore. Who will stay? Who will go? The Romanov trade was brilliant.
Redux91
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Ok Larry REALLY likes him lol, damn that's impressive for a kid in russia
But we're running out of room at D lmao
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At this moment I don’t think his value is crazy high if I have to guess. He’s probably worth more to us I’d reckon. Lot of that would have to do with pedigree as it’s not like a Caufield or a Hutson.
But that could change quickly. If he can take another leap then obviously his value increases. I’m super high on him. Can play both sides. Super smooth skater. Great poise with the puck. Solid slapper. If his production takes a leap and puts on some weight, I think he can be dynamite. One of my faves.
Seems a bit of a late bloomer. Hopefully he doesn’t stagnate
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Well, I was exaggerating for fun, but it's still true that we may not be selling at maximum price if we have a glut of defensemen at a given point in time. If KH manages to sell off players progressively, he may avoid losing too much value. Either way, it would be best to have that kind of talent spread over all positions, but can't complain too much when mid and late rounders look better than their draft rank, no matter what position they play.
Some will ultimately become trade chips. The bad thing is, we get to like all these guys. It's weird, but that hasn't been the case for so many years on this team. They haven't had a plethora of young guys to trade.
I think that you can't look at what these guys are now, but what they could become. After a few seasons under Marty and (Hopefully) playing on a good team, some of them could become good assets. Bottom line is, room will have to be made at some point. It's what the good teams have been doing for decades. We just aren't used to it.
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Ezpz
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He was very good, just the prevailing thought was his production would translate from the Swedish second league to the top as most players did. Then he didn't. Then he had a great playoffs. Then he struggled a lot the next season across three leagues including the NHL. Then last year he seemed to progress a lot at the end of the season after being dicked with the whole year in terms of icectime, leaving some speculation he could still develop. He's been very up and down since being drafted.
This season will be pretty crucial for him but Laval's coaches don't seem to like or trust him so he's working from behind compared to Trudeau or Beaudin who will eat top 4 minutes. Struble is also coming in to take minutes. Mailloux will probably steal that top pairing PP time Norlinder should have been getting the past two years but didn't. Then Wideman is probably going to go down as well. Norlinder is not in good position as we are super deep on D.
