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[Cloned]

420 in center field isn’t really fair.

(Insert 420 joke here)

I take this back.

 

[CabanaBoy5]

Dolis was pretty bad as well tough call

Yeah, it’s close. Dolis had the added feature of taking forever to make a pitch.

 

[dredeye]

It is possible... perhaps they could come up with a stiff neck or sore rotator cuff and take him by the hand to a psychologist... preferably a Japanese speaking one.

Arm fatigue seems like the play here

 

[Habs10Habs]

Might be time to take Kikuchi up on his offer and send him down. The kid is rattled.

 

[Eyedea]

You didn't live through the Jo-Jo Reyes experiment? Corey Lidle? David Purcey? Esmil Rogers, Joey Hamilton? The crushing disappointment of Kyle Drabek?

Victor Zambrano, Brian Tallet, Edwin Jackson.

 

[MS]

It's hard to watch and i truly feel bad for him.

It’s approaching Steve Blass levels now.

It’s clearly not effort level and this is killing him. I don’t really know what they can do.

 

[The Nemesis]

For kicks I went to Fangraphs and looked up the worst pitchers the Jays have employed since 2000, minimum of 80 IP (to catch Kikuchi), sorted by FIP to try and eliminate/control for the impact of varying levels of defensive prowess around them.

1) The shambling corpse of Pat Hentgen - 6.53
2) John Frascatore - 6.34
3) Yusei Kikuchi - 5.90
4) Justin Miller - 5.76
5) Aaron Laffey - 5.67
6) Corey Thurman - 5.57
7) Tanyon Sturtze - 5.54
8) Steve Parris - 5.51
9) Kyle Drabek - 5.41
10) Pedro Borbon - 5.26
11) Chris Michalek - 5.23
12) Thomas Pannone - 5.14
13) Chris Carpenter before he was given up on too early - 5.03
14) Pete Walker - 4.95
15) Gustavo Chacin - 4.94
16) SCott Richmond - 4.88
17) Jacob Waguespack - 4.87
18) Henderson Alvarez - 4.87
19) Brian Wolfe - 4.84
20) Esmil Rogers - 4.81

I recognize all of those names except Steve Parris.

There were 96 pitchers that have accrued 80 IP in a Jays uniform since 2000. Other highlights in the top 30 include Trevor Richards, Miguel Batista, Brian Tallet's glorious muttonchops, Josh towers, Trent Thornton, and current Red Sox pitching coach Dave Bush.

If you're curious about the top 10, it's:

Kevin Gausman
Roberto Osuna
Adam Cimber
Doc
Darren Oliver
Aaron Loup
David Wells
Jordan Romano
B.J. Ryan
and Marcus Stroman

with Manoah just 1 point behind Stroman for that 10th spot.

Also in that top 30 are Paul Quantrill, Brandon Morrow, Tim Mayza (!), Jason Frazor, Ryu, Ray, Billy Koch, Stripling, and Shawn freaking Camp (!!)

 

[GreytWun]

Victor Zambrano, Brian Tallet, Edwin Jackson.

Josh Towers

 

[BertCorbeau]

For kicks I went to Fangraphs and looked up the worst pitchers the Jays have employed since 2000, minimum of 80 IP (to catch Kikuchi), sorted by FIP to try and eliminate/control for the impact of varying levels of defensive prowess around them.

1) The shambling corpse of Pat Hentgen - 6.53
2) John Frascatore - 6.34
3) Yusei Kikuchi - 5.90
4) Justin Miller - 5.76
5) Aaron Laffey - 5.67
6) Corey Thurman - 5.57
7) Tanyon Sturtze - 5.54
8) Steve Parris - 5.51
9) Kyle Drabek - 5.41
10) Pedro Borbon - 5.26
11) Chris Michalek - 5.23
12) Thomas Pannone - 5.14
13) Chris Carpenter before he was given up on too early - 5.03
14) Pete Walker - 4.95
15) Gustavo Chacin - 4.94
16) SCott Richmond - 4.88
17) Jacob Waguespack - 4.87
18) Henderson Alvarez - 4.87
19) Brian Wolfe - 4.84
20) Esmil Rogers - 4.81

I recognize all of those names except Steve Parris.

There were 96 pitchers that have accrued 80 IP in a Jays uniform since 2000. Other highlights in the top 30 include Trevor Richards, Miguel Batista, Brian Tallet's glorious muttonchops, Josh towers, Trent Thornton, and current Red Sox pitching coach Dave Bush.

If you're curious about the top 10, it's:

Kevin Gausman
Roberto Osuna
Adam Cimber
Doc
Darren Oliver
Aaron Loup
David Wells
Jordan Romano
B.J. Ryan
and Marcus Stroman

with Manoah just 1 point behind Stroman for that 10th spot.

Also in that top 30 are Paul Quantrill, Brandon Morrow, Tim Mayza (!), Jason Frazor, Ryu, Ray, Billy Koch, Stripling, and Shawn freaking Camp (!!)

Lol Pete Walker

 

[phillipmike]

 

[The Nemesis]

Lol, Reese on the mound.

 

[BertCorbeau]

I expected Reese to throw harder

 

[The Nemesis]

I expected Reese to throw harder

Performance anxiety. They say it happens to lots of guys.

 

[The Nemesis]

Well, he certainly rose to the occasion.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Look at him locate on the corners

 

[TMLeafer]

Reese pitched better than Kikuchi

 

[mikeyz]

Is it just me or have the Jays been bad against positional pitching this year?

Bradley Jr. > Zimmer

He’s been great the last few games.

For kicks I went to Fangraphs and looked up the worst pitchers the Jays have employed since 2000, minimum of 80 IP (to catch Kikuchi), sorted by FIP to try and eliminate/control for the impact of varying levels of defensive prowess around them.

1) The shambling corpse of Pat Hentgen - 6.53
2) John Frascatore - 6.34
3) Yusei Kikuchi - 5.90
4) Justin Miller - 5.76
5) Aaron Laffey - 5.67
6) Corey Thurman - 5.57
7) Tanyon Sturtze - 5.54
8) Steve Parris - 5.51
9) Kyle Drabek - 5.41
10) Pedro Borbon - 5.26
11) Chris Michalek - 5.23
12) Thomas Pannone - 5.14
13) Chris Carpenter before he was given up on too early - 5.03
14) Pete Walker - 4.95
15) Gustavo Chacin - 4.94
16) SCott Richmond - 4.88
17) Jacob Waguespack - 4.87
18) Henderson Alvarez - 4.87
19) Brian Wolfe - 4.84
20) Esmil Rogers - 4.81

I recognize all of those names except Steve Parris.

There were 96 pitchers that have accrued 80 IP in a Jays uniform since 2000. Other highlights in the top 30 include Trevor Richards, Miguel Batista, Brian Tallet's glorious muttonchops, Josh towers, Trent Thornton, and current Red Sox pitching coach Dave Bush.

If you're curious about the top 10, it's:

Kevin Gausman
Roberto Osuna
Adam Cimber
Doc
Darren Oliver
Aaron Loup
David Wells
Jordan Romano
B.J. Ryan
and Marcus Stroman

with Manoah just 1 point behind Stroman for that 10th spot.

Also in that top 30 are Paul Quantrill, Brandon Morrow, Tim Mayza (!), Jason Frazor, Ryu, Ray, Billy Koch, Stripling, and Shawn freaking Camp (!!)

Wow. B.J RHan in the top 10???? that’s very surprising. He was a gas can at times IIRC

 

[BertCorbeau]

Well, he certainly rose to the occasion.

A happy ending for the Sox Pitching staff tonight

 

[The Nemesis]

Is it just me or have the Jays been bad against positional pitching this year?

I think guys a) find it hard to adjust going from competent pitchers that throw at least 80 to guys chucking BP soft-tosses at 60 and b) get overconfident thinking "pfft, I'll murder this guy" and then make bad swings because they figure it should be easy.

 

[canucksfan]

Victor Zambrano, Brian Tallet, Edwin Jackson.

Brad Mills

 

[The Nemesis]

Wow. B.J RHan in the top 10???? that’s very surprising. He was a gas can at times IIRC

His career was up and down.

First year he was really really good.

Next year he pitched like 5 innings before he got hurt

Third year he was OK

Fourth year he got in like 20 innings before his arm exploded.

So on balance he had 2 good-to-great years balanced against like a quarter-season's worth of being awful and so his better performance drowns out the terribleness.

 

[Cloned]

A clean inning for Reese in mop up duty

 

[BertCorbeau]

Schneider trolling

 

[The Nemesis]

Reese Ohtani.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Reese doing his Ohtani impression