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WJC: 2022 Team USA Roster Talk

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Steve Kournianos said:
Not surprised that the dicks at the IIHF (led by a Canadian) set it up so that Team USA plays mostly late 8pm starts, then get to play a rested Sweden to close out group play with their third game in four nights.
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* The European teams get the early games because they are hours ahead of us.
* TSN insists Canada has the 6 pm game - in the hope that it will lead to large viewership all evening.
* An 8 pm start will allow the U.S. games to be shown in the U.S. in prime time.

I can't speak to the "third game in four nights" but there is no evil conspiracy on the time of day schedule.
 
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ORRFForever said:
* The European teams get the early games because they are hours ahead of us.
* TSN insists Canada has the 6 pm game - in the hope that it will lead to large viewership all evening.
* An 8 pm start will allow the U.S. games to be shown in the U.S. in prime time.

I can't speak to the "third game in four nights" but there is no evil conspiracy on the time of day schedule.
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Every hosting team makes sure they get the preferable schedule, nothing new about this. It's one of the well known perks

You would think this is earth shattering news to that poster.
 
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Rabid Ranger said:
I get it. Was just joking around.
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No problem, his statements did rub me the wrong way though.

The USA looks to have a roster good enough to win if they play their best team game. Good teams are often better than their parts might indicate.

Think Finland will win it all based on their returning roster.

Cheers
 
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The goaltending for summer is a serious downgrade, losing Comesso is a big blow for the US.
 
Harbessix said:
Really hoping to see Bordeleau light up the tournament. With the bad luck he’s had the last two years it would be great to see him have a successful tournament which could lead into a solid camp for the Sharks.
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I'm glad he showed up. Beniers, Sanderson, and Commesso all didn't. Bordeleau played a number of NHL games last season and played well. He also played in the World Championships. He could've said he's too good to play for us at this tournament, but he didn't. He also lost his U18 Worlds due to COVID. Probably cost him a spot in the first round. I'm hoping he wins Player of the Tournament.
 
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ORRFForever said:
* The European teams get the early games because they are hours ahead of us.
* TSN insists Canada has the 6 pm game - in the hope that it will lead to large viewership all evening.
* An 8 pm start will allow the U.S. games to be shown in the U.S. in prime time.

I can't speak to the "third game in four nights" but there is no evil conspiracy on the time of day schedule.
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8pm in Edmonton is 10pm on the East Coast. Prime time is always EC based. Anyone working in TV will tell you EC prime time slot is the sweet spot.

That’s why Canada plays at 6pm local — to get 8pm prime time in Toronto.

So yeah.
 
TheBeastCoast said:
The irony in talking about being triggered and needing safe spaces when like 5 posts up you are whining and moaning about the schedule like it is some conspiracy to keep the Americans down. Just deal with it and stop whining.
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To their credit most American posters have more then enough sense to know it's a non issue.
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TheBeastCoast said:
The irony in talking about being triggered and needing safe spaces when like 5 posts up you are whining and moaning about the schedule like it is some conspiracy to keep the Americans down. Just deal with it and stop whining.
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The WJC is a corporate event run by Canadian corporations. It’s sole purpose is to make money for Canadian entities.

The schedule has always favored Team Canada because nearly all the ad revenue and other profits feeds back into Hockey Canada, the CHL, the host Canadian city, and TSN. This is all public knowledge.

That’s why the WJC is rarely held in the U.S., and if it is, it’s a border location.

To think the IIHF doesn’t require input from Hockey Canada and TSN for scheduling is beyond ignorant. TSN and HC are the de facto rulers of the event. The IIHF are puppets. Having a Canadian like Tardiff in charge of the IIHF was by design.

Kinda sad, TBH. But karma’s a bitch, ain’t it? Canada’s WJC profits have shrunk the last 10 years, as have HC’s and the CHL’s profits. The WJC has lost it’s luster, and the scandals engulfing HC are killing the bottom line.

Canada has only three golds in the last 12 years, so interest was already waning. The corruption and scandals are accelerating it.
 
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Steve Kournianos said:
That’s why the WJC is rarely held in the U.S., and if it is, it’s a border location.
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Has nothing to do with proximity to hordes of rabid paying fans, right?

If the event actually mattered in the US it would be hosted there more often, and in more diverse locations.

As you said so eloquently, no one gives a shit.
 
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jj cale said:
Every hosting team makes sure they get the preferable schedule, nothing new about this. It's one of the well known perks

You would think this is earth shattering news to that poster.
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Canada manipulates the bidding process to ensure they host the event more than anyone else. The more games they host, the more the schedule favors them. That’s why they rarely play a tough opponent in the first and second games of group play — to ensure they have a good record for the Dec. 31 game and solidify a high seed in the QF and higher odds to make the gold-medal game, which is a massive ratings win for TSN and their partners.

To TSN, a WJC gold-medal game in Canada involving Team Canada is almost like the Super Bowl in terms of ad revenue and overall profits. The more TSN makes, the more Hockey Canada, the CHL, and the host city receive.
 
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Steve Kournianos said:
Canada manipulates the bidding process to ensure they host the event more than anyone else. The more games they host, the more the schedule favors them. That’s why they rarely play a tough opponent in the first and second games of group play — to ensure they have a good record for the Dec. 31 game and solidify a high seed in the QF and higher odds to make the gold-medal game, which is a massive ratings win for TSN and their partners.

To TSN, a WJC gold-medal game in Canada involving Team Canada is almost like the Super Bowl in terms of ad revenue and overall profits. The more TSN makes, the more Hockey Canada, the CHL, and the host city receive.
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I get that, so what?

The schedules of hosting nations always favours them in other tournaments too, it did for Finland last WHC just for one example. Old news and if teams can't overcome things like that they weren't a very good team to begin with, at some point you have to beat good teams no matter what seed you get or whatever times games get played.


The last 3 tournaments the U.S has won 2 of them were in Canada so it doesn't seem to be much of a hindrance to your chances.

Isaac Nootin said:
No.

The more games Canada hosts, the more money the IIHF makes.

Other countries want to host more? Sell the product.
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Nah, it's just karma biting those countries in the ass.
 
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jj cale said:
The last 3 tournaments the U.S has won 2 of them were in Canada so it doesn't seem to be much of a hindrance to your chances.
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The US benefits from Canada's frequent hosting when you consider the time zone implications of a tournament like the World Championships which is held exclusively in Europe, takes place in the afternoons over here and where the US traditionally cares even less.
 
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Isaac Nootin said:
No.

The more games Canada hosts, the more money the IIHF makes.

Other countries want to host more? Sell the product.
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The debate is whether the schedule favoring Canada is a conspiracy theory or a sketchy, unfair practice driven by money. Thanks for confirming the latter.
 
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