WJC: 2022 Team Russia roster talk

Cskavars

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Thanks. I have not seen a roster with kids playing in NA. And I do not know if he has any chance to make a team. Once again, thanks.
It looks like the article might just be wrong, he's been playing in the MHL and some KHL action since the start of the year. Played on Sunday in the MHL
 
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jj cale

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Agreed, says weak on defense but no mention of Kuznetsov or Chayka. Overall dont think the writer watches or knows much about Russian players or how the team will look
A lot of times the writers don't know much about any team.They know a few big names,look at how many 1st round draft choices each team has and in what positions, hear some idle chatter from fans about who should be good etc, etc and then write their article.
 
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Which players are most likely to play on Russia's #1 PP?
I see the pools are starting;)

You asked a very tough to answer question. Russia's top6 is loaded with talent. All of them will play on the PP. Russia's PP units will probably be interchangeable.

The only most probable thing is I guess is that Michkov will be there to score goals. Other than that any of the:

Khusnutdinov, Yurov, Chibrikov, Svechkov, Guslistov, Miroshnichenko might be on the top unit. Pashin is a proven PP player too.

Russia will have luxury of deploying the PP unit that is more rested every time the penalty occurs and both units will have the same amount of talent.

On paper Mukhamadullin and Chayka should be the D anchors. But a lot will depend not only on the final roster anouncement, but also on the course of play in the tournament. Kuznetsov and Mintyukov might make the team.
 

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No Miro or any of the NA guys (kind of expected, since they were never mentioned in the first place) in the final roster.

Yaroslav Askarov, Yegor Guskov, Maxim Motorygin

Shakir Mukhamadullin, Kirill Kirsanov, Nikita Novikov, Yegor Savikov , Vladimir Grudinin, Kirill Steklov, Arseniy Koromyslov, Nikita Smirnov

Nikita Chibrikov, Marat Khusnutdinov, Matvei Michkov, Kirill Tankov, Alexander Pashin, Fyodor Svechkov, Nikita Guslistov, Danila Yurov, Pavel Tyutnev, Ivan Didkovsky, Vasily Ponomaryov, Ivan Zinchenko, Semyon Demidov, Dmitriy Zlodeev
 
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Petrov and Gushchin weren’t essential; we have more than enough talent up front.
But ommitting Chayka, Kuznetsov and maybe Mintyukov is infuriating. But who needs them when you have Smirnov, Steklov and Savikov!:facepalm:
I’m getting so sick of this rubbish.
 
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Seems like whoever made the selection went very hard with the "top-6 plays, bottom-6 grinds" approach. Definitely nowhere near the most talented team that could have been iced so.. Yeah, I guess good luck with that. I'm actually pretty split between being happy about Russia self-destructing from within and sad about so many guys being omitted for no good reason (in my eyes).
 

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So, I no longer count on gold from this team.
Why? Do you think Miroshnichenko who would have been a 3rd liner on that roster or Chayka would have saved the day? I doubt it. It's a 50/50 situation. I don't necessarily see why the guys on the roster will be worse. They add some important qualities too. And Miroshnichenko is a 17 year old who has plenty of time to grow and prove he belongs. He's having an okayish season in the league and has looked bad for his standards at the 4-Nations, while the likes of Yurov and Pashin shined bright.

Not picking NA players is in the same category. There was no Russia-Canada-Series to actually watch them play not in junior leagues. Taking them based on stat watching might have been a bigger risk than taking guys the coaches know.
 

Atas2000

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Petrov and Gushchin weren’t essential; we have more than enough talent up front.
But ommitting Chayka, Kuznetsov and maybe Mintyukov is infuriating. But who needs them when you have Smirnov, Steklov and Savikov!:facepalm:
I’m getting so sick of this rubbish.
I am okay with "punishing" them for playing in NA. They made a choice. They have to live with it. With no Russia-Canada-Series I would have my doubts about selecting CHLers too. And let's not pretend like there is no talk about Chayka and Kuznetsov being not the best DDs there are to put it mildly. Mintyukov is an unknown to the coaching staff. Picking a player because he has good stats in a junior league is in my book as good as preferring to take players you actually know.
 

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Sounds like there isn't any reason not to take any North American players, Zubov just likes that entire roster over anyone available.


"We haven't chosen any players from the North American leagues? We were watching Yan Kuznetsov and Daniil Chayka, but we came to the conclusion that the players who have been training with us here in Russia are stronger defensively. The strongest players have been picked"
 

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Am I the only one getting kind of nostalgic for the rosters that Bragin had been picking?

Me not at all. But I wouldn't mind to see Chayka and Mintyukov on this team. Kuznetsov it's hard to say. His AHL experience isn't any better, than other kids' KHL one.

On the other side, Canadians cut off Brandt Clarke, and probably because of the same reasons.
 

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Tankov is way bigger and better skater, than Ivantsov. He does PK as well. He actually looked better, than Ivantsov at the tournament, he just was mostly one man army, as his wingers didn't look that great.

Ivantsov's role is playmaking top6 center, but he won't get this role at the WJC. Tankov can play bottom6 ok. Another important thing, Tankov can singlehandedly create scoring chances and goals, while Ivantsov can't.

As I said, Tankov is in, Ivantsov isn't.
 

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Sounds like there isn't any reason not to take any North American players, Zubov just likes that entire roster over anyone available.
I believe what he said is true and I believe what Atas is saying is true - the coach felt more comfortably selecting the players he knew better.

The issue I have is that the main criteria for selecting half of the roster seemed to be age/size and defensive prowess. In that sense, I would go as far as saying this is a very Bragin-like roster so I don't know where people see a big difference.

No Miroshnichenko??? WTF.
He's probably not even in the top-5 of biggest snubs.
 

Cskavars

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Time will tell about the the 2 CHL D being left off, im still hopeful
Now we just hope Zubov put together the best lines possible
 

Atas2000

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No Miroshnichenko??? WTF.
He is having a so-so season. It is perfectly okay for a 17y.o., but the roster is not built on future projections, but on the now performance. He was given a chance to shine at the 4-Nations-Tournament and failed. After that he was projected to be a 3rd line choice. And there I can see why the coaches would prefer somebody else, maybe older and with more experience.
 

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