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WJC: 2022 Team Canada Roster Talk, Part II

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Statsy said:
I said it was possible, not that it was a certainty. We had a lot of shots but no finish in that game. If he is the one taking some of those shots, maybe things turn out differently. Having said that, I do believe the US deserved that win. They had a pretty amazing team.
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I found that team had a hard time finishing all tournament long, up until the U.S game they were scoring a decent amount of goals just because they were getting a ton of shots but when they went up against a real god team like the U.S their shortcomings in that area became apparent, shots were harder to come by and when they got them they weren't quality opportunities at all for the most part, easy saves for a goalie like Knight. But When prime opportunities did develop.................no dice, they just couldn't put them away, which I had become used to by that point from that team.

Mcmichael comes to mind in this regard, he struggled to capitalize on his boatload of chances all tournament long, shots he normally would bury he was missing game after game.
 
NordiquesForeva said:
TSN (a subsidiary of BCE) doing the absolute lowest-effort, lowest-cost, clownish, pettiest attempt at virtue signaling by not airing a Canadian pre-tournament game is so embarrassing its f***ing hilarious.

Anyway, go Canada, and i fully expect to see McTavish, Bedard, Johnson and the boys rip this tournament a new asshole.
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At this rate I am starting to wonder if we are even going to get the actual tournament games.
 
No one knows if Dach makes the difference in the 2021 tournament. He looked really good in Canada's camp scrimmages and his exhibition play, but Canada has no trouble scoring goals in that tournament until the last 60 minutes. I have little doubt that Canada was the strongest team in the tournament, but USA outplayed Canada in the final and that's that. Canada never faced a team that made it work for goals prior to the gold medal game and made some stupid coaching decisions like putting Byram and Drysdale as a pairing rather than spreading them out, which didn't help in addition to the American team being a very good team as well. Dach may have been the guy to break the defensive shell USA went into, but I wouldn't have bet money on it.

NordiquesForeva said:
TSN (a subsidiary of BCE) doing the absolute lowest-effort, lowest-cost, clownish, pettiest attempt at virtue signaling by not airing a Canadian pre-tournament game is so embarrassing its f***ing hilarious.

Anyway, go Canada, and i fully expect to see McTavish, Bedard, Johnson and the boys rip this tournament a new asshole.
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It's pathetic on TSN's part. Airing trash instead, but then airing the actual tournament games and taking in that money while hoping everyone stays quiet.
 
NordiquesForeva said:
TSN (a subsidiary of BCE) doing the absolute lowest-effort, lowest-cost, clownish, pettiest attempt at virtue signaling by not airing a Canadian pre-tournament game is so embarrassing its f***ing hilarious.

Anyway, go Canada, and i fully expect to see McTavish, Bedard, Johnson and the boys rip this tournament a new asshole.
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No one is more woke than BCE. I have NO doubt word came from the parent company :

"Have your party but keep the noise down."
 
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Canada could have had; Shane Wright, Kaiden Guhle, Owen Power, Mavrik Bourque, Xavier Bourgault and a few others, too bad we will not see the best team Canada possible.
 
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jj cale said:
I doubt Dach makes any difference in that gold medal game IMO, The U.S was just the better team that year, Canada got handily out played that game.
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The Americans got a tip-in goal in an evenly-played first period followed by one of the luckiest goals in WJC final history on the puck that sat on the net. Canada carried play the rest of the way and just could not finish while putting up close to 40 shots, if my memory is serving me today.

As for Dach, everyone was expecting him to be one of the best players in the tournament. He was eating up the pre-tournament and coming off a playoff run with the Blackhawks where he had just matched up with and outplayed Draisaitl.
 
bbfan419 said:
Canada could have had; Shane Wright, Kaiden Guhle, Owen Power, Mavrik Bourque, Xavier Bourgault and a few others, too bad we will not see the best team Canada possible.
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This team is missing a few more players than usual but outside of 2013 there are always players missing. It's still a quality team and should provide some decent entertainment. The interest may not be as high for most of us as it is in December but it can still be a good event.
 
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jj cale said:
I doubt Dach makes any difference in that gold medal game IMO, The U.S was just the better team that year, Canada got handily out played that game.
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I disagree with part of what you said, JJ. The U.S. was the better team that "day" - not that year. If it was a best of 7, Canada would have won.
 
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Dominance said:
The Americans got a tip-in goal in an evenly-played first period followed by one of the luckiest goals in WJC final history on the puck that sat on the net. Canada carried play the rest of the way and just could not finish while putting up close to 40 shots, if my memory is serving me today.

As for Dach, everyone was expecting him to be one of the best players in the tournament. He was eating up the pre-tournament and coming off a playoff run with the Blackhawks where he had just matched up with and outplayed Draisaitl.
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My memory isn't serving me the same as yours,I recall that game being almost a slam dunk in play for the U.S, We didn't get much done at all until later in the game and by then it was just too late.


I must have watched something different, I never saw the U.S being in any real danger in that game at all.

ORRFForever said:
I disagree with part of what you said, JJ. The U.S. was the better team that "day" - not that year. If it was a best of 7, Canada would have won.
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Well when I say year I mean the year that tournament was played. It was played in 2021 so they were the best team in that tournament that year.
 
jj cale said:
My memory isn't serving me the same as yours,I recall that game being almost a slam dunk in play for the U.S, We didn't get much done at all until later in the game and by then it was just too late.


I must have watched something different, I never saw the U.S being in any real danger in that game at all.


Well when I say year I mean the year that tournament was played. It was played in 2021 so they were the best team in that tournament that year.
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We outshot the US 34-21, man, and both of their goals were the result of luck, not overcoming our defense. They turtled effectively but run those two teams back 10 times and we win 8 of them.
 
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Dominance said:
We outshot the US 34-21, man, and both of their goals were the result of luck, not overcoming our defense. They turtled effectively but run those two teams back 10 times and we win 8 of them.
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But 90% of those 34 were nothing shots, no real danger on them.


The U.S played a great team game defensively, we never really were much of a problem for them all game. That's good hockey, maybe not pretty hockey but they played effective hockey.

This seems like a revisionist take on that game IMO.
 
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Dominance said:
We outshot the US 34-21, man, and both of their goals were the result of luck, not overcoming our defense. They turtled effectively but run those two teams back 10 times and we win 8 of them.
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Fair credit to them, the one weakness the Canada had was issues on the wall during breakouts (because the entire team was practically centres naturally) and exploited it twice early and then parked the bus and relied on Knight and a packed slot for the rest of the game. Have no doubt Canada was the better team but credit to Leaman and the USA staff for getting the tactics and gameplay absolutely spot on
 
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Canada didn't outplay USA in the 2021 gold medal game. It was fairly even early on, then USA had a few very dominant shifts where Canada couldn't get or keep possession and Zegras in particular dominated for some stretches that yielded goals, and then USA went pure defence and Canada never looked close to breaking through. Canada had more shots but very few chances, and USA pretty much stopped trying to shoot and did a very good job of hanging on to that lead. USA did what it needed to and Canada did a very poor job adjusting. That Canadian team scored a ton of goals in transition, so when USA bunkered down that option was almost entirely gone.

I expect that this team will have a totally different style. Probably very direct and a lot of physical pressure given the players available and how Cameron's teams played before. I would guess that this team will be more physical than the earlier 2022 team looked to be given that is had a much clearer bottom six feel among the forwards.
 
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The USA deserved the win in that game. I don't believe they would be able to do the same in a best of 7 but that's irrelevant in a tournament that ends with a one game winner take all.
 
Bitter Canadian revisionist history itt. Quite unbecoming.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda all you want, but the scoreboard tells the truth.
 
Mathieukferland said:
Fair credit to them, the one weakness the Canada had was issues on the wall during breakouts (because the entire team was practically centres naturally) and exploited it twice early and then parked the bus and relied on Knight and a packed slot for the rest of the game. Have no doubt Canada was the better team but credit to Leaman and the USA staff for getting the tactics and gameplay absolutely spot on
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Leaman may have had a good defensive strategy but his lines and pp groups were idiotic. Canada's caches were worse. Caufield should have been on Zegras' line and not bee the net front presence on the PP. How do you play your best sniper as a screen and have Brink on the PP>

starkravingsabres said:
Bitter Canadian revisionist history itt. Quite unbecoming.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda all you want, but the scoreboard tells the truth.
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Canadians were FAR deeper. In a longer series they win. They weren't the better team that night - I knew by the end of the 1st they weren't going to win.
 
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