Speculation: 2022 Summer/off season Sharks Roster Discussion

[Hobocop]

QOs to Chmelevski, Ferraro, Gadjovich, Gregor, Kahkonen, Kunin

No QOs to Blichfeld (already gone), Dahlen, Gallant, McGrew, Meloche, Morand, Pasichnuk, Sawchenko

 

[themelkman]

If you think scoring is what is expected from Gadjovich then of course you don’t understand why they are keeping him around.

On the other hand scoring IS what is expected from Chmelevski, Leonard and Weatherby. None of them can score in the NHL.

Scoring should be expected from every player. Maybe you can get a pass if you provide great defensive value, but Gadjoviches only value comes in how he can punch people and even then he tends to lose more fights than win.

 

[Alaskanice]

QOs to Chmelevski, Ferraro, Gadjovich, Gregor, Kahkonen, Kunin

No QOs to Blichfeld (already gone), Dahlen, Gallant, McGrew, Meloche, Morand, Pasichnuk, Sawchenko

I thought they might qualify McGrew and Meloche.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I never said he doesn’t suck. I said he’s better than Leonard, Weatherby, Reedy and Chmelevski, four guys who aren’t even impact players in the AHL.

And I said he's not. Gadjovich isn't better. He merely fights. He's not an impact player either. It's just a bias.

 

[Patty Ice]

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[TD]PLAYER[/TD]
[TD]POS[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Sasha Chmelevski[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
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[TD]Mario Ferraro[/TD]
[TD]D[/TD]
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[TD]Jonah Gadjovich[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Noah Gregor[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Kaapo Kahkonen[/TD]
[TD]G[/TD]
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[TD]Luke Kunin[/TD]
[TD]F[/TD]
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Glad they qualified Chmelevski but sad they are letting McGrew go (understandably however).

 

[STL Shark]

Atleast Viel can play hockey. I’m not excited to see what kinda BS lineup we trot out next year.

Feels like a Josh Anderson trade is right around the corner

Viel (0.41 PPG in the AHL) can "play hockey" but Gadjovich (0.45 PPG in the AHL including being almost a PPG in his last year in the AHL) can't. All while Viel is 1.5 years older than Gadjovich.

If you think scoring is what is expected from Gadjovich then of course you don’t understand why they are keeping him around.

On the other hand scoring IS what is expected from Chmelevski, Leonard and Weatherby. None of them can score in the NHL.

Disagree on Weatherby. He was brought in and solely utilized as a 4th liner after a good training/development camp got him a contract. Plus, while he's older he just played his first year of pro hockey. I don't think that he should be viewed remotely similar to the other two in terms of role/expectation.

 

[Pavelski2112]

Viel (0.41 PPG in the AHL) can "play hockey" but Gadjovich (0.45 PPG in the AHL including being almost a PPG in his last year in the AHL) can't. All while Viel is 1.5 years older than Gadjovich.

Neither of them can play hockey and should be canned asap

 

[Hodge]

Scoring should be expected from every player. Maybe you can get a pass if you provide great defensive value, but Gadjoviches only value comes in how he can punch people and even then he tends to lose more fights than win.

Okay but those other players also don’t score. At least Gadjovich hits and fights. Would I want him on a playoff roster? No but this is nowhere near a playoff team.

 

[STL Shark]

QOs to Chmelevski, Ferraro, Gadjovich, Gregor, Kahkonen, Kunin

No QOs to Blichfeld (already gone), Dahlen, Gallant, McGrew, Meloche, Morand, Pasichnuk, Sawchenko

Meloche is surprising. Though wonder if his QO was too high and they'll bring him back at league minimum rather than get a raise. Dahlen deal has already been litigated, but curious if another NHL team takes a shot or if he's destined to be back in the SHL.

 

[Cas]

I thought they might qualify McGrew and Meloche.

Meloche is actually a surprise, but he wasn't good anyway.

 

[STL Shark]

Neither of them can play hockey and should be canned asap

That's a plenty fair take and is different than the one that was quoted by me originally. You just can't say that Viel can play hockey and the other can't based on objective facts.

 

[Pavelski2112]

That's a plenty fair take and is different than the one that was quoted by me originally. You just can't say that Viel can play hockey and the other can't based on objective facts.

I see more skill in Viel but he hasn't been able to turn that into production.

 

[fasterthanlight]

I like Dahlen for his mustache, I hope they can still sign him

 

[PacificOceanPotion]

Jacob friggin Megna shouldn’t be in the NHL. Since we’re talking about who’s an NHL caliber player and who isn’t one.

 

[hohosaregood]

With how much they used Meloche last year, I thought he'd be a shoe-in to get a QO. I was hoping for more from McGrew but no loss either way.

 

[themelkman]

Jacob friggin Megna shouldn’t be in the NHL. Since we’re talking about who’s an NHL caliber player and who isn’t one.

Well hes 6”5, so I would expect to see him around quite a bit from now on

 

[slocal]

No more game for Meloche

I'm gonna miss that.

 

[NiWa]

Chmelevski still has some upside, wouldn't give up on him yet.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Jacob friggin Megna shouldn’t be in the NHL. Since we’re talking about who’s an NHL caliber player and who isn’t one.

The Megna thing is more an issue with how bad the team is that he was even in the lineup to impress people who fall in love with size and physicality too much.

 

[themelkman]

There’s so many good skilled UFA’s that could be had for cheap this year. What an awful time to have this mentality take over

 

[timorous me]

Chmelevski still has some upside, wouldn't give up on him yet.

He looked good after his call-up, and that's even with some bad puck luck.

Meloche not being qualified is hopefully a sign that Grier isn't some Neanderthal who only cares about size and hitting. He's talked enough about speed that I'm pretty sure that's not the case.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

He looked good after his call-up, and that's even with some bad puck luck.

Meloche not being qualified is hopefully a sign that Grier isn't some Neanderthal who only cares about size and hitting. He's talked enough about speed that I'm pretty sure that's not the case.

And honestly, Meloche did have some speed. Enough to hold his own at the NHL level. Just didn't have the stick play really to succeed even at a depth level. Middleton got better almost exclusively because his stick play improved dramatically. It's something Megna doesn't really have and what Vlasic has lost over the years.

 

[Herschel]

And honestly, Meloche did have some speed. Enough to hold his own at the NHL level. Just didn't have the stick play really to succeed even at a depth level. Middleton got better almost exclusively because his stick play improved dramatically. It's something Megna doesn't really have and what Vlasic has lost over the years.

Middleton is too tall... the dude is 6'3

 

[timorous me]

And honestly, Meloche did have some speed. Enough to hold his own at the NHL level. Just didn't have the stick play really to succeed even at a depth level. Middleton got better almost exclusively because his stick play improved dramatically. It's something Megna doesn't really have and what Vlasic has lost over the years.

And part of why Braun is still an effective player now at 35.

 

[Gecklund]

Our defense is freaking insane. We have 3 guys that are probably second pair or low end first pair guys (EK, Burns, Ferraro) then a guy coming back that we have no idea where he’s at health wise (Knyzhov) a bottom pairing guy (Merkley) and then a bunch of 7s (Vlasic, Simek, Megna). Honestly our defense should look something like

xxx-EK
Ferraro-Burns
Knyzhov-Merkley
Vlasic, Simek, Megna

But you know it’s going to look like this

Knyzhov-EK
Vlasic-Burns
Ferraro-Simek
Megna-Merkley

By the way even the top one looks like shit. Ideally we move burns and get a whole new top pair and run:

Top pair
Ferraro-EK
Knyzhov-Merkley