Speculation: 2022 Summer/off season Sharks Roster Discussion

[hohosaregood]

Vatrano would be good. Maybe because Grier was with BYR last season, he can get both Vatrano and Trocheck and keep them together. A package deal of sorts.

I think you gotta figure out how to dump Labanc first before going after Vatrano

 

[Alaskanice]

I think you gotta figure out how to dump Labanc first before going after Vatrano

I think Labanc going has been in the cards for some time. Boogie didn’t think he was physical or defensive enough. I can’t imagine Grier feeling any differently.

 

[Harbessix]

Agreed. It would be a major stride forward if Grier uses his NYR connection to poach Kris Knoblauch to be HC here. IMHO, he's the next Bednar type, perfect for developing our kids, and a big analytics guy which we all love. Getting him over Brunette or D Quinn would be HUGE.

I also love Knoblauch but I think he’d by my second choice after Jeff Halpern. 4 years as an assistant under John Cooper, arguably the top coach in the league. Also played with Grier for two years in Washington (believe he captained those teams as well). And he’s young enough that he can stick around a while and focus on developing the young kids.

 

[Hobocop]

 

[hohosaregood]

That sucks for Pasichnuk. Really rough year for him healthwise

 

[Hodge]

But I thought Sawchenko was the goalie of the future and Boughner was a moron for not giving him more starts? How could this be?

 

[Gecklund]

Honestly both of these surprise me a bit. I guess Pas a little less but still we really don’t have a ton of options on D in the AHL. I’d imagine Hatakka, Kniazev, and Cicek all are down but past that it’s just kind of meh AHL guys. Sawchenko I guess they plan on using Emond as backup in the AHL? He’s bad though even at that level.

 

[KirbyDots]

But I thought Sawchenko was the goalie of the future and Boughner was a moron for not giving him more starts? How could this be?

I don't remember anyone ever saying this. Nobody here is weeping for the Sawchenko not getting qualified.

 

[Patty Ice]

But I thought Sawchenko was the goalie of the future and Boughner was a moron for not giving him more starts? How could this be?

Who the hell thought that? Was it just from one of the pretend scenarios you played out in your head? You know the ones you practice to show how edgy and better you are.

 

[The Nemesis]

Who the hell thought that? Was it just from one of the pretend scenarios you played out in your head? You know the ones you practice to show how edgy and better you are.

He's misrepresenting the fact that people wanted to give Sawchenko more rope with the Sharks because a) he wasn't terrible in his first appearance and b) he couldn't possibly have been any worse than what the team was rolling out at the time. It was never about him being "the goalie of the future" and more about "we might as well just see what he can do if we're probably going to suck no matter who's between the pipes"

But that doesn't make for as entertaining of a strawman to knock down.

 

[Levie]

But I thought Sawchenko was the goalie of the future and Boughner was a moron for not giving him more starts? How could this be?

The only goalie in the system I remember anyone saying was good a few years back was Melnichuk. Are you sure you aren't thinking of him? Though he was tried and failed.

 

[Hodge]

He's misrepresenting the fact that people wanted to give Sawchenko more rope with the Sharks because a) he wasn't terrible in his first appearance and b) he couldn't possibly have been any worse than what the team was rolling out at the time. It was never about him being "the goalie of the future" and more about "we might as well just see what he can do if we're probably going to suck no matter who's between the pipes"

But that doesn't make for as entertaining of a strawman to knock down.

It was straight up vitriol directed at Boughner for weeks because he wouldn’t start an ECHL goalie over the team MVP.

 

[hohosaregood]

He's misrepresenting the fact that people wanted to give Sawchenko more rope with the Sharks because a) he wasn't terrible in his first appearance and b) he couldn't possibly have been any worse than what the team was rolling out at the time. It was never about him being "the goalie of the future" and more about "we might as well just see what he can do if we're probably going to suck no matter who's between the pipes"

But that doesn't make for as entertaining of a strawman to knock down.

And not playing Reimer 15 straight games in a row, including b2b series.

 

[Pavelski2112]

It was straight up vitriol directed at Boughner for weeks because he wouldn’t start an ECHL goalie over the team MVP.

Reimer was getting way overplayed and Hill was injured.

It wasn't about Sawchenko being some goalie of the future, it was about overplaying Reimer, which led to him getting injured as well.

 

[Hodge]

Reimer was getting way overplayed and Hill was injured.

It wasn't about Sawchenko being some goalie of the future, it was about overplaying Reimer, which led to him getting injured as well.

And the reason he did that is because he determined Sawchenko does not belong anywhere near a NHL crease, which this decision to relinquish his rights rather than even keep him around as a AHL backup proves definitively correct.

 

[The Nemesis]

And the reason he did that is because he determined Sawchenko does not belong anywhere near a NHL crease, which this decision to relinquish his rights rather than even keep him around as a AHL backup proves definitively correct.

Meanwhile Reimer got run into the ground until he got hurt. A couple more games of Sawchenko in the net (in his first few appearances where he was mostly not awful) would've been a small price to pay to give Reimer some much-needed time off no matter how much of a downgrade he was in the short term and had no future with the club.

But that can't be true because it distracts from your version of events.

 

[LadyStanley]

Dreaming.....

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

How are the Sharks even going to entertain free agency with the league not doing it’s job on the Kane front.

 

[Lebanezer]

And the reason he did that is because he determined Sawchenko does not belong anywhere near a NHL crease, which this decision to relinquish his rights rather than even keep him around as a AHL backup proves definitively correct.

This is specious reasoning. And for someone who likes to pat himself on the back for being right, that’s really easy if you completely disregard many aspects of this decision.

1. As many others have pointed out, the Sharks only had 2 healthy options in goal, Reimer and Sawchenko. Reimer got overplayed and injured and Boughner was rightly criticized for his part in that.

2. Paying any assets to get a goalie was not a smart option at the time. They weren’t sure if Hill could come back. When they realized he couldn’t, they acquired Kahkonen.

3. They now have 3 NHL goalies on the roster, they also just signed Strauss Mann and have Emond under contract for next year. They don’t need Sawchenko.

4. You consistently talk about wanting the team to suck, why would you thump your chest over the team releasing a player who increases their chances of losing? You should be more upset than anyone about Sawchenko not being qualified.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

LOL two seasons ago in 2020-21 season, Mario had a thanksgiving video in which he had a couple of his Shark friends over:
Zach Sawchenko, John Leonard, and Dylan Gambrell. Now they're all gone. Kinda like when the Sharks separated BFFs Logan and McGinner. I don't think Logan has smiled since.

 

[The Nemesis]

LOL two seasons ago in 2020-21 season, Mario had a thanksgiving video in which he had a couple of his Shark friends over:
Zach Sawchenko, John Leonard, and Dylan Gambrell. Now they're all gone. Kinda like when the Sharks separated BFFs Logan and McGinner. I don't think Logan has smiled since.

Logan can't smile. If he opens his mouth too wide a puck will be attracted to the gravitational pull of his teeth and knock them all out again.

 

[STL Shark]

It was straight up vitriol directed at Boughner for weeks because he wouldn’t start an ECHL goalie over the team MVP.

Difference in thinking "goalie of the future" and "don't run the 'team MVP' into the ground with 13 straight starts in the middle of the season on a team that's not making the playoffs. Move the goal posts again though, Bob.

 

[Gecklund]

There are some rumors that OTT are looking for a RHD. I don’t know if Burns would waive for there but honestly we don’t know where anyone would waive. So oh well let’s talk about it!

Burns for Zaitsev+Thomson+1st

 

[STL Shark]

There are some rumors that OTT are looking for a RHD. I don’t know if Burns would waive for there but honestly we don’t know where anyone would waive. So oh well let’s talk about it!

Burns for Zaitsev+Thomson+1st

I doubt that Burns would waive to go to Ottawa sadly. While they're building a nice young roster ready to compete for the playoffs, they have no goaltending (Forsberg isn't a sustainable option I don't think given his track record sans a heater last year) and no shot at truly contending. I think Burns would waive for Dallas or Carolina for sure and then potentially maybe someone like Edmonton if they had cap space for him (would require SJ or someone else taking Barrie's money).

 

[STL Shark]

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Sounds like Burns is garnering a lot of interest. Speculation on Stars (obviously), but deal will be tough to complete just given the cap and other issues to overcome. Still think the PDB, Pavelski, and ranch connection along with Dallas losing Klingberg just makes it all make too much sense.