GDT: 2022 NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs

[AngelDuck]

Maroon and Cogs mixing it up with each other. Perry in every scrum.

Nostalgia

Damn maybe Cogliano is a goon after all.

I respect his courage but Paddy could have ended him if the gloves came off there

 

[70sSanO]

Really? I would take someone like a Bogosian (or an Ekblad) over Manson.

Well Bogosian signed for $850k per for 3 years to play in Tampa. There is no universe where Manson signs for less than $3M.

John

 

[duckpuck]

There's no reason to think we've necessarily moved on from them. The point was not to lose them for nothing, not that they weren't welcome here anymore.

Murray knew what their contract expectations were - and Verbeek chose not to negotiated with Manson. That tells you a lot. I think Rakell, Manson and Lindholm were all viewed as part of a failed core - Murray made several comments to that effect (they didn't elevate their games).

But it turns out we could use someone like Manson on the roster, so...

We could use Gudbranson (or equivalent) more than Manson. At this point, Manson is a 4/5. I'd rather have Gudbranson (or someone like him) for less money and less term than an injury prone and declining Manson. Gudbranson is a nearly perfect bottom pair d-man for a team lacking size and toughness.

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

Murray knew what their contract expectations were - and Verbeek chose not to negotiated with Manson. That tells you a lot. I think Rakell, Manson and Lindholm were all viewed as part of a failed core - Murray made several comments to that effect (they didn't elevate their games).

that is probably the best way of putting it. The three of them were a failed core.

 

[DavidBL]

Murray knew what their contract expectations were - and Verbeek chose not to negotiated with Manson. That tells you a lot. I think Rakell, Manson and Lindholm were all viewed as part of a failed core - Murray made several comments to that effect (they didn't elevate their games).




We could use Gudbranson (or equivalent) more than Manson. At this point, Manson is a 4/5. I'd rather have Gudbranson (or someone like him) for less money and less term than an injury prone and declining Manson. Gudbranson is a nearly perfect bottom pair d-man for a team lacking size and toughness.

I don't mind Guds but let's be honest. Who ever we get to fill the RSD hole isn't going to be playing 3rd pair minutes.

 

[Terry Yake]

the former duck on former duck crime was great

 

[Mr Rogers]

Murray knew what their contract expectations were - and Verbeek chose not to negotiated with Manson. That tells you a lot. I think Rakell, Manson and Lindholm were all viewed as part of a failed core - Murray made several comments to that effect (they didn't elevate their games).

I do think that part of the reason they didn’t succeed is that they are all kind of complimentary pieces. Hampus is the closest to not being that, but he still is IMO

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

I do think that part of the reason they didn’t succeed is that they are all kind of complimentary pieces. Hampus is the closest to not being that, but he still is IMO

Agree. Murray's expectations were ridiculous. None of those guys were ever going to elevate their games enough to be considered core pieces no matter how much Murray complained about it to the media. And it's not their fault. Like you said, they're much closer to complimentary pieces than core pieces.

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

No one expected Tampa to get swept. This is going 6 or 7 games.

After game 2, I thought a sweep was a realistic possibility. Happy that isn't the case now though.

 

[Leonardo87]

After game 2, I thought a sweep was a realistic possibility. Happy that isn't the case now though.

Tampa always plays this game, comes out looking like shit, and then find their game. Florida was the only team that didn't give them some trouble.

 

[duckpuck]

Agree. Murray's expectations were ridiculous. None of those guys were ever going to elevate their games enough to be considered core pieces no matter how much Murray complained about it to the media. And it's not their fault. Like you said, they're much closer to complimentary pieces than core pieces.

Rakell's game fell off massively and at times it seemed to be effort/dedication. When he was scoring 30 goals, he sure seemed like a core guy. But then he fell off a cliff. Too much of a passenger.

For Lindholm, I think absent injury he is absolutely a core piece. A top shutdown guy even today. A great guy by all accounts, but too quiet to be a locker room leader it seems.

Manson is not a core piece unless you consider "intangibles" - and even then I don't think he is. Then add the injuries and drop off in his game. He's got value on a good team that's looking to compete for a cup - not so much on a rebuilding team.

 

[bsu]

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Award show tonight….

Does zegras have a chance at Calder?

 

[Duck Off]

Award show tonight….

Does zegras have a chance at Calder?

he definitely has a chance. As weird as it is to say (type), the media following helps his chances significantly IMO. He's easily top 2, but personally I'd have Seider easily ahead of him.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Maroon and Cogs mixing it up with each other. Perry in every scrum.

Nostalgia


I respect his courage but Paddy could have ended him if the gloves came off there

Cogliano be like: if 5'10 Rocky Balboa beat 6'5 Ivan Drago then maybe I got a chance lol.

 

[Arthuros]

Cogliano be like: if 5'10 Rocky Balboa beat 6'5 Ivan Drago then maybe I got a chance lol.

"If he dies, he dies"

- Literally anyone squaring up against Cogs

 

[FiveHoleTickler]

"If he dies, he dies"

- Literally anyone squaring up against Cogs

Rocky IV references are always welcome

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Rocky IV references are always welcome

Jakob Silfverberg has always reminded me of a younger Dolph Lundgren.
Something about the eyes.

 

[Paul4587]

Tampas PK might just cost them a third straight cup. It’s been brutal all series.

 

[DavidBL]

Tampas PK might just cost them a third straight cup. It’s been brutal all series.

Same can be said for Cols goaltending.

 

[Paul4587]

Same can be said for Cols goaltending.

True. But I have higher expectations for Tampas PK than I do the Avs goalies.

Wonder if they lose if they would be willing to part with Newhook for Gibson. That could benefit us a lot.

 

[DavidBL]

True. But I have higher expectations for Tampas PK than I do the Avs goalies.

Wonder if they lose if they would be willing to part with Newhook for Gibson. That could benefit us a lot.

Sure but I mean. I think they said Col had like a 50% on the PP all playoffs.

 

[TheGoodShepard1]

Good for Cogs.

 

[Paul4587]

Lightning are done. They’re absolutely gassed.

 

[Duck Off]

Is MacKinnon hurt or something? I feel like I’ve barely noticed him this series.