Post-Game Talk: 2022 NHL Playoffs - Round 1: Tampa Bay Lightning vs. Toronto Maple Leafs | 4-3 WIN

[The Gongshow]

Gotta stop the lazy cross ice passing and especially when we’re on the PP. Toronto was obviously prepared for that.

I don't think Kuch connected one single pass all game.

Turned into Colombus series Kuch

 

[LightningStrikes]

 

[RussianGuyovich]

I don't think Kuch connected one single pass all game.

Turned into Colombus series Kuch

its literally our gameplan. you realize those are set plays, for the most part? toronto did a good job playing against that.

id like to see some more creative zone entry other than skate in fast along the boards, stop, and backhand it into the center of the ice, personally. hell, id even accept some dump and chase. anything other than what clearly wasnt working.

 

[Master P]

Hmmm, he made an interesting point about "violence".

I know Keefe was trying to make a big deal out of it before the series started but that might explain some of the soft calls we saw early on. If the NHL took Keefe's comments seriously then I could see them telling the refs to not let things get out of control. Which would explain the soft calls we saw ( on both sides). If that's the case then it definitely benefits tortonto.

That being said I think this team needs to be embarrassed before they start putting out an effort. I know I said it earlier but its the truth. Even on their cup runs they had game 1's like this where they looked awful. So I think its safe to say that this is just expected at this point. They've won 2 cups and still have the same issue starting a series on time.

 

[Hoek]

its literally our gameplan. you realize those are set plays, for the most part? toronto did a good job playing against that.

id like to see some more creative zone entry other than skate in fast along the boards, stop, and backhand it into the center of the ice, personally. hell, id even accept some dump and chase. anything other than what clearly wasnt working.

That one PP where Stamkos whiffed the empty net chance was basically dump and chase. Obviously you don't want to do only that, but they definitely get too stubborn at times instead of just mixing it up a bit.

 

[DrMartinVanNostrand]

its literally our gameplan. you realize those are set plays, for the most part? toronto did a good job playing against that.

id like to see some more creative zone entry other than skate in fast along the boards, stop, and backhand it into the center of the ice, personally. hell, id even accept some dump and chase. anything other than what clearly wasnt working.

Often seemed like they would get the puck into the corner, two Leafs would converge, and turn the pack over there too. It was clearly something they were ready for.

 

[gn2007]

The east games had the hone team all win one game. The west games had all road team win game one lol

 

[LightningStrikes]

So was this bad preparation or bad execution? Or both?

 

[RussianGuyovich]

So was this bad preparation or bad execution? Or both?

it's not necessarily bad preparation. that's why the series is seven games, to allow for adjustments and different strategies. it is, however, bad mid-game adjustments or execution of adjustments. and you would have hoped cooper would account for disparate results in game one (and maybe he did, but the contingency also failed).

when youre the back-2-back cup champs, you're not really surprising anyone with the target on your back. i do hope that cooper will continue to show extreme malleability, and we have to hope the team is able to execute this new game plan well.

we also had some extremely bad puck luck, from the hockey gods, and they are a fickle mistress.

 

[TheDaysOf 04]

Toronto beat Montreal 4-0 and 5-1 in the first few games of their series

In 3 of the 6 games we played against Florida, we gave up 4, 4, and 6 goals.

2 of these teams went to the Finals and the other 2 went no further. Just gotta hang in there after bad games

 

[The Gongshow]

Game 2 has to be a statement game for the defending champs. Even if its a close win they have to secure the series tie and play a full 60.

Down 2-0 the team won't come back. People can try and believe in the memes but the mental toughness of this 2022 team isn't what it was in 2020 and 2021

 

[ccman68]

only a few years late. someone needs to be fired for this shit

 

[Stammertime91]

He was responsible for two in my eyes. He put sergachev in a vulnerable position and failed horribly on a backcheck only to end up not covering the shooter and stand in front of vasy. As the closest guy and winger, he failed. He played timid. His antics are affecting us negatively right now.

We don't need to go out there and goon it up when 0 hits are thrown already. We need grit and he brings very little cause he's slow to every loose puck and late into battle. Plus, he doesn't want to skate. I would have sat his ass the remainder of the game after that pass. That's a pass C league players make, not guys with 30 years experience on ice. Just a bullshit performance.

 

[OurlordAndSaviorKuch]

We truly looked like 2019 all over again. We were all worried about how Foote would play and the rest of the team just collectively shit the bed. Have to play much much better then how they did last night.

 

[Hoek]

Why change what's working?

I'd just like the echo the concern about Point. He just doesn't seem to be in the state of being able to drive a line like that, or is the idea to shelter him? Either way I don't like it. At least if he's back on his usual line with Palat and Kuch, the latter has the potential to carry him a bit and set him up for opportunities even if he isn't 100%.

 

[Stammertime91]

Why change what's working?

I'd just like the echo the concern about Point. He just doesn't seem to be in the state of being able to drive a line like that, or is the idea to shelter him? Either way I don't like it. At least if he's back on his usual line with Palat and Kuch, the latter has the potential to carry him a bit and set him up for opportunities even if he isn't 100%.

Probably to shelter him at this point. Need to sever kuch from stamkos though. That level of overpassing from those two will snuff the looks a kuch/point combo would bury. They're great in the regular season but have very little to show in the postseason together. It's like playing an NHL video game where the shoot button is broken so all you can do is pass. Pass, pass, pass.

 

[The Gongshow]

only a few years late. someone needs to be fired for this shit

Thank god.

Also I think it's time to put Point and Kuch back together

 

[JTBF81]

Please get Stamkos and Kuch off the same line. It doesn't work consistently at all. If Point can center the top line, he needs to be there. Maybe try
Palat-Point-Kucherov
Colton-Stamkos-Hagel
Killorn-Paul-Cirelli
Old and slow line
Or try Killer with Stamkos and Colton and see if Paul-Cirelli-Hagel can be something akin to the 2B/3 line if the last two runs. Those lines from last night were awful.

 

[VinikToWinIt]

So was this bad preparation or bad execution? Or both?

Both. We seemed thoroughly unprepared for what the Leafs threw at us, and when we had them on their heels we would make a careless pass, the puck would roll off our stick, we would whiff on the one timer.

F in both preparation and execution. The coaching staff and players both have a LOT to build off of from that one.

 

[DrMartinVanNostrand]

only a few years late. someone needs to be fired for this shit

This prompted me to look up Maroon's PP stats in his career because he had a 27-goal season and maybe another good season or two goal scoring-wise and you might've thought he was a good NFP-type guy who could get those rebound goals...even in that 27-goal season he only scored three of them on the power play. 44 goals across 2016-'17/'17-'18, four PPGs.

So that really never has been his game. He just seems like one of those good NFP guys teams always want.

 

[T REX]

Why change what's working?

I'd just like the echo the concern about Point. He just doesn't seem to be in the state of being able to drive a line like that, or is the idea to shelter him? Either way I don't like it. At least if he's back on his usual line with Palat and Kuch, the latter has the potential to carry him a bit and set him up for opportunities even if he isn't 100%.

I have to agree...he is badly injured. Shelter. Sucks to say but he is not himself.

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Please get Stamkos and Kuch off the same line. It doesn't work consistently at all. If Point can center the top line, he needs to be there. Maybe try
Palat-Point-Kucherov
Colton-Stamkos-Hagel
Killorn-Paul-Cirelli
Old and slow line
Or try Killer with Stamkos and Colton and see if Paul-Cirelli-Hagel can be something akin to the 2B/3 line if the last two runs. Those lines from last night were awful.

I think point is hurt

 

[JTBF81]

I have to agree...he is badly injured. Shelter. Sucks to say but he is not himself.

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I think point is hurt

If he's hurt to the degree that he can't be an effective top 6 player, then he shouldn't be up there. It can't be the same story as what happened with Johnson in '15 after he was slashed and had his wrist broken, but then was still allowed to get major minutes. Not saying Point is hurt to that degree, but if he's not able to be the usual Point, he needs a lessened role in the lineup.

 

[OurlordAndSaviorKuch]

If he's hurt to the degree that he can't be an effective top 6 player, then he shouldn't be up there. It can't be the same story as what happened with Johnson in '15 after he was slashed and had his wrist broken, but then was still allowed to get major minutes. Not saying Point is hurt to that degree, but if he's not able to be the usual Point, he needs a lessened role in the lineup.

Point hasn't been his usual self this entire year if we are being honest.

 

[Whoshattenkirkshoes]

Hmmm, he made an interesting point about "violence".

I know Keefe was trying to make a big deal out of it before the series started but that might explain some of the soft calls we saw early on. If the NHL took Keefe's comments seriously then I could see them telling the refs to not let things get out of control. Which would explain the soft calls we saw ( on both sides). If that's the case then it definitely benefits tortonto.

That being said I think this team needs to be embarrassed before they start putting out an effort. I know I said it earlier but its the truth. Even on their cup runs they had game 1's like this where they looked awful. So I think its safe to say that this is just expected at this point. They've won 2 cups and still have the same issue starting a series on time.

The whole NHL playoffs is being officiated tighter. It's direction is coming from Mcdavid drawing zero minor penalties while getting mauled in last years playoffs. (not from Keefe's comments)

It's a great direction. Let's hope it sticks.

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We turned the Puck over 10,000 times, couldn't pass and got out worked.

 

[LightningStrikes]