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GDT: 2022 NHL Entry Draft - Round 1 - July 7th - 7 P.M / Round 2-7 - July 8th - 11 A.M

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Hisch13r said:
"Do nothing"
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The two biggest deals the Devils have done in the last eight years have been what...having Hall fall into their laps thanks to idiot Chiarelli and the Subban trade, which proved to be more style than substance. Oh and signing Hamilton, great one big FA signing in eight years. Other than that all we've done are 2nd and 3rd rounder trades for players, selling off and endlessly waiting for lotto balls and prospects to hit.

Look I don't want to do stupid crap either but some of you ARE too risk-averse. You can't literally have a team of just draft picks and one or two FA signings.
 
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There's definitely a lot of projection with Slaf, his production and measurables were not that great. But we have to remember the draft is a bit of an arbitrary cut off and players develop at very different rates. Slaf has been trending sharply upwards, enough for people to look past what he did 6-12 months ago.

If the 2020 draft was in July there's 0% chance Mukhamadullin would have went in the first round, not a chance. NJ took a risk on him because they got to see him start his D+1 season prior to him being drafted and got to look at his development.

It "clicks" for certain guys at different times. For Slaf it didn't click until quite recently. Some people will hold that against him, but projecting what he'll do is far more important than picking apart what he's already done. That data might not be terribly useful in projecting him.
 
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Unknown Caller said:
Lol you act like I'm the one running the analysis on this. Also, pro scouts are far from infallible. DeBrincat and Point went in the second round. St. Louis went undrafted. Scout consensus is not a reason to take a player.

I will again reiterate that I love Slafkovsky as a player. I'm just highlighting the significant risk that comes with taking him, which you clearly don't want to admit.
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Now you're just making a straw man. I literally said there is significant risk with every pick even 1OAs which history has shown as recently as Nico and Patrick. But you're failing to realize that not all risk is equal.

Also, what you're failing to acknowledging is that hedging 3 draft picks on a RFA who's making 9 million next year to re-sign to a non-contender is foolish, especially when. That pick is a valuable is a 2OA
 
SteveCangialosi123 said:
#2 overall picks aren’t lottery tickets. Obviously busts happen but the vast majority of the time you get a good player, sometimes a franchise player. In the salary cap era, top picks have absolutely massive value.
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Yeah, going back to the cap era these are the only #2 players who haven't really worked out. Perhaps its too early to evaluate Kakko through.

2012 Ryan Murray
2017 Nolan Patrick
2019 Kaapo Kakko
 
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Unknown Caller said:
You should familiarize yourself with these models, I can't run a 101 course on this for you. They've been around for years and discussed ad nauseam here leading up to the draft. Do basic research on google. Not sure what NHL 22 has to do with anything, but ok.

And yes, the models are adjusted for level of competition, that goes without saying.
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I'd be happy to. I do data science for MAANG for a living so please teach me. There's a reason why only metrics like ELO only works within leagues...

It doesn't work when there is no common competition for measurement.
 
Honestly if the Habs do pick Slaf their cloak and dagger bullshit didn't do him any favors either. They should have done what we did with Nico and gradually put it out there he was the guy, give the fans time to get used to the idea of not going with the pre-lottery consensus #1 pick instead of playing it coy and pulling the rug out from under them at the last minute in front of the home fans.
 
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TheSituation said:
Now you're just making a straw man. I literally said there is significant risk with every pick even 1OAs which history has shown as recently as Nico and Patrick. But you're failing to realize that not all risk is equal.

Also, what you're failing to acknowledging is that hedging 3 draft picks on a RFA who's making 9 million next year to re-sign to a non-contender is foolish, especially when. That pick is a valuable is a 2OA
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The point is that analytically taking Slafkovsky top 2 is inherently a riskier pick that your typical top 2 pick. Not worth discussing anymore, we're clearly not making any progress here.
 
ScottyK said:
Not drafdt related but WOOF

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in related news, the coyotes also presented their new home uniforms:

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