2022 NHL Entry Draft 8

[bcv]

Seider was a great prospect and I had him as the top D in the draft come draft day. The guy had clear standout tools and was impressive against men at the world championships. He went 6th overall. His play 3 years later in the NHL should not be a shock.

Whatever, it's clearly revisionist history but you want praise so great job on saying he'd be pick top10 and 2nd dman off the board his draft year!

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

Whatever, it's clearly revisionist history but you want praise so great job on saying he'd be pick top10 and 2nd dman off the board his draft year!

lol I’m just pointing out that Seider was a stud from the get go. The guy was highly impressive at the World Championships and had a tremendous toolbox. His play shouldn’t be a shock. It should also be pointed out that that draft was stacked. We picked 15th and had a choice of Caufield, Newhook and Krebs. That should tell you everything.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I do gotta say - skating be damned at this point. Dumais might score 100 pts as a draft eligible in Halifax where the team is good not great, no one is stirring the drink but Dumais.

 

[Vachon23]

I do gotta say - skating be damned at this point. Dumais might score 100 pts as a draft eligible in Halifax where the team is good not great, no one is stirring the drink but Dumais.

Desnoyers and L’Herueux are good linemate though, I‘m still note sure that he’s not more then a great AHL player. The skating and the size scare me

 

[Toene]

so you're telling us Seider having 50 pts in his rookie season at 21 yo is exactly what you expected and yet didn't rank him 1st oa in your personnal ranking you linked us?

Not trying to defend the guy's point here.

Even if you'd knew in advance Seider would be this good, I believe most teams would've still drafted Jack Hughes first without much hesitation. Dude has easily 100 points forward potential. Depends on the teams. Teams like Leafs and Oilers would've taken the defenseman of course.

 

[The Great Weal]

Wright/Cooley/Slaf/Jiricek it is folks

 

[Doublechin]

I can't seem to be so sold on Jiricek with the backwards skating concerns. To me, that's a huge red flag

 

[le_sean]

Love Slafkovsky as a person and a talent, but his skating is a pretty big question mark that could scare me off from picking him in the top 3. It's hard to say whether or not his skating will really become that much better with age, since a lot of it is just down to sub-optimal skating technique. When I look at a forward prospect, I value hockey IQ and skating by far the most. While Slafkovsky isn't by any means a terrible skater or a bad playmaker, he isn't even close to being elite in either. That's a pretty big red flag for me.

Of course if his skating improves you could be looking at a really dominant player, but I think that's a little bit too big of an if to gamble on. Especially for an organization like the Habs, who desperately need a high impact player from the next couple drafts.

He has a pretty high IQ. He’s making smart plays all of the time. And his skating is fine.

What makes Slafkovsky great is he knows how big he is and uses that size effectively. Puck protection, and disrupting plays defensively with his long reach. This isn’t KK who only uses his long reach along the boards but nowhere else.

 

[tooji]

Cooley really fits the type of hockey this management and coaching staff seems to want to employ. Fast, smart, skilled and competitive. He actually reminds me a bit of Koivu (minus the muffin shot), or a sort of high end Farabee. I love his competitiveness, damn.

Koivu pre knee injury when he was more explosive. I agree though, the compete level is super high with him. Matched with the skill that will make a heck of a player.

 

[David Suzuki]

Whatever, it's clearly revisionist history but you want praise so great job on saying he'd be pick top10 and 2nd dman off the board his draft year!

A lot of people liked Seider in his draft year. I wasn't totally on board, but I remember a solid amount of people on here had him high.

 

[The Great Weal]

Anyone see some Kyle Connor in Cutter Gauthier?

 

[SOLR]

Dahlin has been a slight disappointment if anything, he was supposed to be what Makar is. Seider is exactly what I thought he’d be. He was already a stud at the WC before the draft, the fact he’s so good so quickly shouldn’t be a surprise.

Dahlin is still pretty young and improving. He plays a different game than Makar as well. Now that Power will be there, Dahlin will blossom.

 

[SOLR]

Nazar, also owns.

When I see scouts impressed by exhibition games' advanced stats I go LOL

 

[RationalExpectations]

Dahlin has been a slight disappointment if anything, he was supposed to be what Makar is. Seider is exactly what I thought he’d be. He was already a stud at the WC before the draft, the fact he’s so good so quickly shouldn’t be a surprise.

Nobody is supposed to be what Makar is now at the time of their draft. Nobody expects a D to realistically reach 25 goals and PPG at 23. If anything Dahlin has been very good on a very bad team.

 

[WatchfulElm]

Jordan Dumais has to start making some scouts think twice. 6 assists again tonight, 5 primary. He has such a high IQ. 4th best LHJMQ scorer at 17 years old.

In the past 20 years, only 8 17 years old players were able to finish top 5 in the Q : Alexis Lafrenière, Pierre-Luc Dubois, Vitaly Abramov, Nikolaj Ehlers, Jonathan Drouin, Jonathan Huberdeau, Sean Couturier, Sidney Crosby. That's pretty good company.

I would definitely grab him with the Oilers pick in the 2nd round.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Not trying to defend the guy's point here.

Even if you'd knew in advance Seider would be this good, I believe most teams would've still drafted Jack Hughes first without much hesitation. Dude has easily 100 points forward potential. Depends on the teams. Teams like Leafs and Oilers would've taken the defenseman of course.

They wouldn't rank him behind Byram, though. Or Turcotte. Or really anybody else.

 

[bcv]

A lot of people liked Seider in his draft year. I wasn't totally on board, but I remember a solid amount of people on here had him high.

Everyone liked him, no one is disputing that. But there was plenty of « concerns » with what his offensive upside would be and there cleary wasn’t certainty that he’d be this good offensively this quickly.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Jordan Dumais has to start making some scouts think twice. 6 assists again tonight, 5 primary. He has such a high IQ. 4th best LHJMQ scorer at 17 years old.

In the past 20 years, only 8 17 years old players were able to finish top 5 in the Q : Alexis Lafrenière, Pierre-Luc Dubois, Vitaly Abramov, Nikolaj Ehlers, Jonathan Drouin, Jonathan Huberdeau, Sean Couturier, Sidney Crosby. That's pretty good company.

I would definitely grab him with the Oilers pick in the 2nd round.

He's having one heck of a age 17 season in his draft year for sure. Smaller type forward so he should go 2nd round but where I don't know. Might go between our 2nd and the Oilers 2nd.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

After watching my annual quota of highlight videos I’m going with Slaf. Hopefully he can get a mean streak once he starts playing against A-holes like Marchand, Tkachuks, Kucherov etc…

 

[Hannibal]

Slaf all day.

Do not like Cooley. He didn’t wow me every time i saw him. Slaf upside is way higher.

 

[WeThreeKings]

After watching my annual quota of highlight videos I’m going with Slaf. Hopefully he can get a mean streak once he starts playing against A-holes like Marchand, Tkachuks, Kucherov etc…

Don't expect Slaf to get a mean streak or play physical. We went through this with Latendresse. He is what he is, you either accept he's a skilled player in a power forward body who doesn't play a power game or you don't.

 

[Goldenhands]

"Slaf doesnt play a power game."



Elvis is still alive and the earth is flat.

 

[Hannibal]

Don't expect Slaf to get a mean streak or play physical. We went through this with Latendresse. He is what he is, you either accept he's a skilled player in a power forward body who doesn't play a power game or you don't.

He doesn’t have a mean streak, but he’s pretty tough. Ain’t no big softie.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Slaf against Tampere today. I think the next Eric Lindros will register at least 10 hits, concussing two Tappara players. He's absolutely ruthless.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I feel like we will have one of these guys at this point. Very high probability we do not catch either of the Flyers or Kraken at this point. We would need to win 5/5 games to risk it and the probability is just low at this point. So yeah, we are basically going to get a top 4 pick (after lottery) and I'd put money on it.

Wright
Slafkovsky
Cooley
Nemec
Savoie
Jiricek