NHL Entry Draft 2022 NHL Draft Thread - Part 2
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RAFI BOMB
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I saw at the combine that he said he is working with a skating coach and that he believes one day he will be a really good skater. I'm not sure who the skating coach is though. It would be interesting to hear from an NHL executive what they think of his skating and how much improvement they believe he can realistically make. If McGroarty can become a very good skater like he thinks he can, then it makes it really interesting in projecting what his upside might look like.
Qward
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The issue with Wright is that he lost so much development time.
If a team that is good at developing their young players took him, he could be Sebastian Aho 2.0. If the wrong team takes him, he will be RNH 2.0. RNH is a good player, but at 1st overall you want a difference maker, not a 3rd line center.
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What worries me with Wright has been the constant "he won't wow you" comments. Been hearing that about the kid for 2-3 years now. Yeah, a Bergeron type player is great and all, and was definitely worth it for Boston, but....it just feels more like an excuse for Wright (he is no Bergeron!). Like, we hyped up this kid since he was 14 and we need to justify it and his exceptional status kind of thing. First overall needs something in his game that brings the wow factor, imho.
He's going to be a good one in the NHL and all that, but I think a redraft in 2032 wouldn't have him in the top 2.
He's going to be a good one in the NHL and all that, but I think a redraft in 2032 wouldn't have him in the top 2.
Reading the Black Book and the comments from scouts about Lian Bischel is eerily familiar to what was said about Boucher last year.
Basically scouts absolutely love him and are willing to overlook skill and IQ limitations because he's nasty and loves to blow up opposing players.
Potential trade down target for the Sens.
Basically scouts absolutely love him and are willing to overlook skill and IQ limitations because he's nasty and loves to blow up opposing players.
Potential trade down target for the Sens.
Masked
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Where? He didn't play last year and the year before he had all the scouts drooling over him.
assennayo
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"And with the 7th overall pick the Ottawa Senators are proud to select..."
But what do you think of the guys ranked in the early 2nd cause apparently they're on the table for the sens in the top 10
I'd say too high and we would probably trade down but he'd be less of a reach at 7 than Boucher was at 10.
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If we really want him we ought to trade UP with our 2nd rounder instead. He's probably getting pick in the 20s at earliest.
Exact same stuff was said about Boucher.
Found out he wasn't getting past 15.
GermanSpitfire
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I understand you’re joking but you’re beating a dead horse at this point.But what do you think of the guys ranked in the early 2nd cause apparently they're on the table for the sens in the top 10
We get it. The Senators reached for almost their entire 2021 draft. The Senators had one draft where they went off the board for their picks. It was a season where alot of players didn’t play many games so it was the perfect season to shoot for the stars. Many acknowledged this fact at the time too.
The Ottawa Senators tried a little too hard to look like the smartest guy in the room however other than 2021 - the Senators tend to stay the course with their picks, especially their 1st rounders.
2020
Stutzle - Unanimous 2/3rd overall pick
Sanderson - Picked #5
Sportsnet: 4th
Dobber: 8th
ESPN: 8th
McKeens: 5th
Bob’s list: 8th
Greig: Picked #28
Sportsnet: 22nd
Dobber: 38th
ESPN: 33rd
McKeens: 24th
Bobs list: 28th
2019
Lassi Thomson: I’ll give you this one - Off the board a bit, but not too many good RHD available this this year.
2018
Brady Tkachuk - went #4
Bobs list: 3rd
Dobber: 9th
Sportsnet: 4th
McKeens: 5th
2017
Shane Bowers - went 28th
Bobs list: 32nd
Dobber: 29th
Sportsnet: 32nd
McKeens: 29th
2016
Logan Brown - went 11th
Sportsnet: 8th
Bobs list: 10th
ESPN: 12th
McKeens: 13th
2015
Thomas Chabot - went 18th
McKeens: 21st
Bobs list: 25th
Sportsnet: 18th
ESPN: 45th
Colin White - went 21st
McKeens: 19th
Bobs list: 16th
Sportsnet: 22nd
ESPN: 22nd
Getting bored of accumulating the rankings so i’ll simplify the rest:
2013 - Lazar. Went around where he was ranked to
2012: Cody Ceci. Went right around where he was supposed to.
2011: Mika Zibenejad. Went right around where he was supposed to.
2010: Guys we wanted were off the board so we traded pick.
2009: Jared Cowan. Went right around where he was supposed to.
But to answer your question. I think this draft is deep and I quite like the prospects who are poised to go on day 2 of the draft.
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Preaching to the choir on this one, but if a similar situation comes up we simply don't draft Bischel at all.
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I'd focus on the years Mann has ran the draft (2018-2021).
JBD, Thomson, Pinto, Jarventie, Boucher, Ostapchuk, Roger
All these guys were somewhat surprise selections where they were taken.
For better or for worse, the Sens staff under Mann doesn't think twice about reaching for a player they like relative to where the consensus thinks they should be selected.
GermanSpitfire
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Forgot about JBD. Good catch. Forgettable player I guess.
As for “reaching” with second round picks - I don’t mind it whatsoever. Scouting is very subjective and just because a public list says one thing. Doesn’t mean an internal scouting staff feel the same way.
I know people fall in love with the players that were supposed to be picked day 1 but fall to day 2 - and more often than not, these players show why they fell on draft night.
In my opinion, Ostapchuk wasn’t a reach, neither was Jarventie. Both guys went in the range of where they were expected to be drafted.
Me personally I have a tier of players in the 2022 draft between 26 and 67 where all the guys are similar quality to each other and I wouldn’t blame a GM for taking Logan Morrison (Who I have ranked 62nd) at 35. It’s very subjective when comparing such similar players.
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The issue really is effort and compete level. I watched him too, I'd never draft him first OA. Why was he getting out worked by other OHLers? They all lost the same dev time. He has amazing pedigree but he literally regressed since his 15 year old year. That's not normal and frankly his playoff performance was pathetic. I've seen every excuse in the book. His coach, his development, he's injured etc. The only one I'm buying is he was hurt the rest of the excuses are bullshit. I really hope Montreal picks him.
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Imagine where this team is if they just picked Miller and Sillinger. The concensus picks in their spots. Who seemingly have all the characteristic of the sens picks too. Miller is the biggest miss of all. He is trending towards being a franchise D in the mold of Hedman.
Personally I don't trust our scouting staff either. I like Mann and his instincts I think he needs more resources and a more stable GM.
I still can't believe people want to trade the pick either.
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I think Wright is going to end up head and shoulders the best from the draft, even with some of the concerns from the year
From my viewings of Boucher with the 67s I saw a player that shows flashes of skill and creativity but far too infrequently. I think his biggest problem was/is there are far too many shifts where he does nothing at all and is the definition of passenger. The guy needs to bring a hell of a lot more consistent intensity. I’m giving him a pass on this year but he better show better shift to shift than he did this year.
I wouldn’t trade the pick for a F but a young top 4 D would be worth it IMO.
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Kasper at 7 , Lekkerimaki at 8. Sign me up for either one.
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